Poll: Why don't they just have keybord/mouse functionality on the consoles?
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My PC FPS experience was with CS: Source. The best of the best played there and they really were on a completely different level. I'm pretty good at shooters, but they made me look like I was playing with my face. This isn't just one instance either, there were just a higher number of incredibly skilled players. I've never had that kind of problem with a console, in any game. I don't pretend to understand it, I'm just stating my experience with PC shooters.Techno Squidgy said:
As for modded controllers, they can do anything from applying full-auto fire to semi-auto weapons to eliminating scope drift. And they are very obtainable, despite the fact that they are a breach of contract with Xbox LIVE and PSN.
If you believe that it's fair to pit mouse against analog, see the link below:
http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html
If that isn't a study to prove that PC gamers just outclass console gamers, I don't know what is.
Ah, CS:S. No wonder. The learning curve on that game is ridiculous, no wonder you struggled. I've been playing PC Fps games for quite some time and I still get absolutely wrecked at every iteration of CS.PissOffRoth said:
Also I only just understood what you meant when you said "most people wouldn't stand a chance". I thought you meant purely Keyboard + Mouse, you mean Keyboard + mouse against controllers. Yeah I'll agree with you there, K+M will decimate gamepads nine times out of ten.
On PC, with games like CoD and BF it's a much more level playing field than CS or old school FPS games like Unreal and Quake. Probably due to the much lower skill ceiling in CoD/BF.
I don't know about the ps3 and Wii, but with the 360, Microsoft will not allow a game to pass certification if the game functions with either a mouse or a keyboard. It's their fault.
I know some PS3 games do allow mice, and with the Wii, I feel no need to have one because the pointer works almost as well. Actually, I don't know why so many devs fail to put M/K controls on their games on the PS3, because you'd think that someone would realize that's a selling point.
I know some PS3 games do allow mice, and with the Wii, I feel no need to have one because the pointer works almost as well. Actually, I don't know why so many devs fail to put M/K controls on their games on the PS3, because you'd think that someone would realize that's a selling point.
Pfft, its far less about keyboard/mouse superiority in fps games than its about keyboard/mouse's inferiority at being a jack of all trades controller.
Yea there are several instances where I would prefer keyboard/mouse, but there are also many where I would not. Controllers don't really excel at any genre, sticks are better in fighters, wheels are better in racers, but the nice thing about a controller is I can reasonably operate any game I throw at it... Barring bad programming of controls of course.
Yea there are several instances where I would prefer keyboard/mouse, but there are also many where I would not. Controllers don't really excel at any genre, sticks are better in fighters, wheels are better in racers, but the nice thing about a controller is I can reasonably operate any game I throw at it... Barring bad programming of controls of course.
I wouldn't mind, but I wouldn't use it. I usually game from my bed or my couch so using a mouse and keyboard wouldn't really work for me.
Well, the hardware support is there. It's developers that don't want it implement software support, I guess mostly because of limits placed on them by the console maker. Which sucks because, you see, PC gamers have both. Plug in a gamepad (any gamepad, not just the 360 wireless, I don't have one and frequently play with a gamepad) or use the KB/M combination. Your choice. Hunched over of laid back. Watch on your PC's screen or plug into your TV. It's always about choice. That's the main difference between consoles and PCs, not the controller. In consoles you are not supposed to have choice since it's a closed system and the manufacturer will have complete control of controller design, peripherals, community interaction, modding capabilities, and gets a cut of everything, mostly. You'd have to change the philosphy of consoles to even start seeing widespread support of different controller schemes in consoles. Of course, such control usually comes attached to some very streamlined systems that reduce hassle.
No, because the player with a mouse will most likely dominate shooters like Call of Duty, due to the precise control it offers. The main thing that controllers bring to the table is that they're han-held, and can move in any direction, where the keyboard is limited to 8 directions.
I'm not talking about a third party adapter, I'm talking about first party support.Stall said:
your post is entirely pointless.
And? There is still keyboard and mouse functionality. How is my post pointless? Judging by your original post, you didn't even know such a thing existed.orangeapples said:
Seriously. How is pointing out that such functionality actually exists is pointless? I'm sorry that your post was just absolutely pointless, but don't insult me just because you didn't feel like doing a modicum of research before posting.
You CAN use keyboard and mouse on console. What is there it discuss?
yes, my topic and post are indeed asking about using keyboard/mouse on the consoles, but the main part of the question is why is it not allowed by the console makers. Giving the player the option out of the box; NOT buying a third party device that works by tricking the console into thinking your keyboard/mouse is a regular controller.Stall said:
Either way, it's made moot by the simple fact that you can get a keyboard and mouse to work on a console, regardless of whether or not it has native support on the console. It's no real different than using a program on a PC to trick it into thinking a gamepad is a mouse and keyboard.orangeapples said:
It's all just pointless. Who cares if you need a third party device? The functionality is there, so why did you bother making this thread?