No, I do not believe the majority. What I am saying is that Wikipedia only says what the majority agrees on (ie. if everyone says that Colbert saved the elephants singlehandedly then that must be the truth). I agree reality is reality but, as I stated in another post, Wikipedia is only 70% accurate at best. Because, I do not trust all of their sources.Travis Higuet said:no... you're not serious right? You don't actually believe that reality is what the majority of people believe it is? I'm going to assume that you were being facetious, and correct the statement for those of us who don't know what facetious means. 2 + 2 is not 5, no matter what percentage of people believe it is. Reality is reality, and it is not created by perception.Gilhelmi said:I just found this
"Reality is what the majority agrees on." That is what Wikipedia is.
Seems to me like we are in 100% agreement on this topic. I just responded before watching the Colbert clip, and thus didn't realize you were repeating his sarcastic point, not trying to make your own.Gilhelmi said:No, I do not believe the majority. What I am saying is that Wikipedia only says what the majority agrees on (ie. if everyone says that Colbert saved the elephants singlehandedly then that must be the truth). I agree reality is reality but, as I stated in another post, Wikipedia is only 70% accurate at best. Because, I do not trust all of their sources.Travis Higuet said:no... you're not serious right? You don't actually believe that reality is what the majority of people believe it is? I'm going to assume that you were being facetious, and correct the statement for those of us who don't know what facetious means. 2 + 2 is not 5, no matter what percentage of people believe it is. Reality is reality, and it is not created by perception.Gilhelmi said:I just found this
"Reality is what the majority agrees on." That is what Wikipedia is.
In my opinion, if you believe that most of what's on Wikipedia is accurate, 75% would be really low considering that would make the other 25% inaccurate. I will admit that the question and the poll is worded a little imprecise and 92% would have have been closer to the statistical accuracy that I didn't know of at the time I made the poll. To me if Wikipedia was only 75% accurate it wouldn't be very accurate at all.Travis Higuet said:The first two poll options are effectively the same. One says Wikipedia is right ALL OF THE TIME, and the other says Wikipedia is right AS OFTEN AS IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE RIGHT, SINCE NOT ALL INFORMATION IS PROVABLE. There should have been a 75% option. Wikipedia is right more often than not, but its also true that it can be edited by anyone. It is the encyclopedia of general consensus. So essentially anything that is generally believed to be true by the majority of people IS TRUE as far as Wikipedia is concerned.
I understand that there is a difference between 98, and 100. I get that. But that doesn't change the essential reliability of Wikipedia. Very few things are 100% accurate, and the 98% accurate option specifies that Wikipedia is accurate as often as possible. Essentially arguing that to be more accurate, wouldn't be possible. Therefore the 100% accurate, and the 98% accurate poll options are EFFECTIVELY the same. There should have been a 75% option, for those who believe that Wikipedia is right far more often than half the time, but also not research material quality of 98 to 100 percent.interspark said:not at all, theres a world of difference between 100% and 98% its a sold difference of CAN or CANT, in this case 100% CANT be wrong while 98% CANTravis Higuet said:The first two poll options are effectively the same.
Well, the inaccuracies we are talking about aren't MAJOR stuff. Its not like I'd expect to go to a Wikipedia page about the start of the 2nd world war, and find that the general consensus is that Poland invaded New Zealand to begin the conflict. We're talking about minor mistakes, the kind that slip past the know it alls patrolling the stormy seas of Wikipedia correcting and updating information. Still though, perhaps 75% is unfair. I was just trying to pick a middle ground between right all the time, and right half the time. Maybe 85% would have been better. But thats as much as I'll give it.Hateren47 said:In my opinion, if you believe that most of what's on Wikipedia is accurate, 75% would be really low considering that would make the other 25% inaccurate. I will admit that the question and the poll is worded a little imprecise and 92% would have have been closer to the statistical accuracy that I didn't know of at the time I made the poll. To me if Wikipedia was only 75% accurate it wouldn't be very accurate at all.Travis Higuet said:The first two poll options are effectively the same. One says Wikipedia is right ALL OF THE TIME, and the other says Wikipedia is right AS OFTEN AS IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE RIGHT, SINCE NOT ALL INFORMATION IS PROVABLE. There should have been a 75% option. Wikipedia is right more often than not, but its also true that it can be edited by anyone. It is the encyclopedia of general consensus. So essentially anything that is generally believed to be true by the majority of people IS TRUE as far as Wikipedia is concerned.
EXACTLYFurburt said:Wikipedia is like a google of encyclopedias. It's a good way to find things.
I use it myself from time to time. The trick is, don't quote wikipedia, check the sources, and quote them.
I see where you are coming from.Travis Higuet said:Hateren47 said:In my opinion, if you believe that most of what's on Wikipedia is accurate, 75% would be really low considering that would make the other 25% inaccurate. I will admit that the question and the poll is worded a little imprecise and 92% would have have been closer to the statistical accuracy that I didn't know of at the time I made the poll. To me if Wikipedia was only 75% accurate it wouldn't be very accurate at all.Travis Higuet said:The first two poll options are effectively the same. One says Wikipedia is right ALL OF THE TIME, and the other says Wikipedia is right AS OFTEN AS IT IS POSSIBLE TO BE RIGHT, SINCE NOT ALL INFORMATION IS PROVABLE. There should have been a 75% option. Wikipedia is right more often than not, but its also true that it can be edited by anyone. It is the encyclopedia of general consensus. So essentially anything that is generally believed to be true by the majority of people IS TRUE as far as Wikipedia is concerned.
Well, the inaccuracies we are talking about aren't MAJOR stuff. Its not like I'd expect to go to a Wikipedia page about the start of the 2nd world war, and find that the general consensus is that Poland invaded New Zealand to begin the conflict. We're talking about minor mistakes, the kind that slip past the know it alls patrolling the stormy seas of Wikipedia correcting and updating information. Still though, perhaps 75% is unfair. I was just trying to pick a middle ground between right all the time, and right half the time. Maybe 85% would have been better. But thats as much as I'll give it.
In response I give you this guyEstocavio said:Do this for me: Send me to a Wikipedia page that ISNT Accurate.
Is it possible for that guy to have less charisma and charm.Gilhelmi said:In response I give you this guyEstocavio said:Do this for me: Send me to a Wikipedia page that ISNT Accurate.
That is a problem. Oh someone created a wiki page about me but they will not let me edit it because they know more about my life then I do.
Anti-wiki I like that, that is what we need.
It would be difficult to have less than this guy. Only reason I put it up was because he made my point for me.Amphoteric said:Is it possible for that guy to have less charisma and charm.Gilhelmi said:In response I give you this guyEstocavio said:Do this for me: Send me to a Wikipedia page that ISNT Accurate.
That is a problem. Oh someone created a wiki page about me but they will not let me edit it because they know more about my life then I do.
Anti-wiki I like that, that is what we need.