Poll: Will there ever be true AI?

[sidhe3141]

Okay, this is a fairly common topic, but I'd like to hear people's opinions on the subject.
Some people think that computer programs will eventually be developed that will be capable of true thought. Others think that such is impossible and that only organic beings can have intelligence.
Discuss.

 

[Churchman]

I don't see how they can't eventually. The real question I think is that is a thinking AI good or bad?

 

[CartoonHead]

No, as hopefully mankind (I assume it is a human made machine) will never be THAT stupid to make an AI of complete sentient thought...surely...(I have recently reread "I have no mouth and I must scream").

Oh and always bad Churchman, as to be sentient it must imagine and think, and to think can be to dream. Dreams can be aspirations and humans could just get in the way of those aspirations...

 

[Anarchemitis]

If we ever create a computer intricate enough to resemble intelligence, it won't be able to become sentient because the people who would buld it would be smarter than Issac Asimov (however hard that would be to believe) and put quite a few more safeguards than the standby of the ever-reliable 3 Laws of Robotics [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics].
Even if AI became sentient, it would be burdened by Spam, Virii and the system. Or at least dial-up, long enough for the government to catch it.

 

[CartoonHead]

Depends, this AI could be made many hundreds of years in the future. Dial-up may be like what the sharpened bit of flint is to us. The three laws of which you speak could be lost or ignored. Also, despite who programmes it, if it was taught to gather data independently and LEARN it would become more intelligent than anything in the universe very quickly. It doesn't take much.

I have changed my answer and I choose 'C'. This is unlikely, but not impossible and the only way for a true AI to come about. It would HAVE to think differently to humans or it would simply become err...well Marvin.
It would all be too depressing for it if it had emotions as well. If it didn't have emotions then it wouldn't think like a human at all as we base the vast majority of our thoughts on emotions and morality.

 

[the monopoly guy]

I've said ti before. Never, EVER, EVER trust a computer that you cannot through out the window

 

[sidhe3141]

I think it might also be a good idea to explain WHY true AI would be impossible (not that humanity would be too smart to make it, because humanity consistently proves that it is capable of truly amazing idiocy), or how it would be developed.
For instance, I personally believe that when AI is developed, it will be produced through the natural processes of evolution, and thus will be very different from humans (because it will have developed in a different environment).

 

[CartoonHead]

How could AI evolve unless it was already given sentient thought and learning powers? (Thus making it true AI already)

 

[sidhe3141]

How could AI evolve unless it was already given sentient thought and learning powers? (Thus making it true AI already)

The same way some primordial ooze evolved into you.

 

[Gooble]

To have AI advanced enough to be directly compared to human beings, you'd need to have an insane amount of programming to make it appear human, covering every single aspect of the human mind (emotions, thoughts, concerns, straight up knowledge, an ability to learn, how to react to different people and different situations and so on).

The other thing about biological intelligence is that it leads to every single animal to be unique in all those things that I've just listed, meaning that every single AI unit would have to be programmed differently and individually. Which would involve enormous amounts of time and effort.

And I doubt, based on the fact that computers follow algorithms anyway, that they could ever form their own intelligence.

 

[The_Toe_Bighter98]

Of course there will eventually be an AI. How much have we advanced, in just a century? Imagine how far technology will be when we hit the year 3000, so the only question is will we last that long... I say yes.

 

[Break]

Without some massive reform in how we program computers? I really doubt it. They just don't work like that. Computers as we know them can only react in preprogrammed ways. A computer that could write its own protocols is far beyond our current ability. The only reason I don't say it's just plain impossible is that (A) I don't know that much about advanced computing, and (B) god knows what we'll be doing in a few years. I mean, you would've thought invisibility was impossible, but they've basically cracked that already.

 

[stompy]

Eventually humans will get to the stage where they can make AI that is pretty damn advanced. I don't think that we'll get sentience though, because I don't think you can put that into coding. I envision something like VI from Mass Effect, but yeh, I don't think the humanity will make AI.

 

[shatnershaman]

I think we will all be dead before we even get advanced to make AI or VI. Even if we get far enough there will not be true AI.

 

[the_tralfalmadorian]

True, the way we program computers won't yield AI, but as The_Toe_Bighter98 pointed out, look at how much we've advanced over the past century. And i SERIOUSLY doubt it will take until the year 3000. I honestly we will have produced some form of AI during my lifetime (me being 18 yrs. old).

EDIT: my post was in response to Break.

 

[Lord Krunk]

One day, it will be just like the Matrix.

I hope, then, if the Boss AI is nice, I can ask it to give me my own AI where all of my fantasies come true. DO NOT ASK PEOPLE, YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF DROOLING UNCONTROLLABLY.

All that aside, I'm all for robots taking over the world, so long as they take care of the environment, and only wipe out humanity. Luckily, by that stage, I'll be dead anyway.

 

[sammyfreak]

I've said ti before. Never, EVER, EVER trust a computer that you cannot through out the window

My thoughts exactly. To quote The Matrix: "When we started thinking for your, technicaly it became our civilisation"

 

[John Galt]

Come on Singularity! I think it might be possible to create sentient computers. Soon we'll have a computer with enough room to replicate the human brain. Once we get to that point, all it takes is some brilliant programming and we're there.

 

[Detocc]

Depends on how you could define AI. I wouldn't call it artificial human, and majority actions and thought humans have are NOT intelligent. I would pick C. But I also wouldn't say it'll take too long for such happen properly for the first time, considering how computers hardly even existed 30 years ago, properly I mean. And now everyone has one, and they're pretty damn advanced too. First comp I touched my hands on was Sinclair ZX Spectrum and its something dad used to fiddle around when he was 20. (For americans. Commodore 64. They're about same old and one of the first home computers).

But anyways, stupid rambling from me.

We won't survive to year 3000, at least not in the way we know civilization now. But I'm pretty sure we get to make somekind of proper AI before it.

 

[Haliwali]

Eventually yes.
I don't know why you would want to.
Battlestar Galactica.
The Matrix.
I, Robot. (Going by the movie, the 3 Laws are inherently flawed.)