Poll: Will you buy Duke Nukem Forever?

[Kermi]

Wow, the Escapist is refusing to even allow opinions that counter its hard-assed view on Piracy. Classy, folks.

OT: Nah, it's probably not going to be very good.

Gearbox/Take-Two might want to buy advertising space here in the future. Why would they do that if 50% of Escapists have openly admitted they're going to play it without paying for it?

Oh, right, I forgot the users was responsible for selling ad space. I'm just saying software 'piracy' isn't the black and white debate that The Escapist regularly portrays it as and they should be tolerant of points of view that don't fall in line with theirs.

And hey, look! Half of the Escapist says they flat out don't want to play DNF. I'd say that's worse than wanting to play it without paying for selling ad space.

You're being ridiculous. Piracy is illegal. Bottom line is, Escapist Magazine as a company with a vested interest in the video game industry, which relies on actual sales to thrive, should not allow themselves to be associated with a pro-piracy community.

They have elected to disallow such discussion, which leaves you with two options: deal with that fact, or choose not to post here.

I'm not being ridiculous for wanting a balanced forum for a discussion on one of the bigger issues in the gaming community today on a gaming website. Again, by your logic, the Escapist should hit the banhammer on anyone who doesn't like games that have been advertised here, including their beloved cash-cow Yahtzee.

I'm not saying piracy is good, or that we should all pirate games, or that we should all brag about pirating games, but one should be allowed to talk about piracy within the context of games on a gaming website without having to filter their opinions through the 'pirates are just meanies' narrative that most writers on The Escapist fall in with.

Well if we're going to put words in each others mouths, your logic dictates Escapist users should use this as a torrent linklist and console modding how-to guide. Everyone on the internet can come here to discuss how to get games for free and the publishers will never see another cent out of any of us.

I'm sure that will help Escapist Magazine stay in business.

Ohoho, how droll of you, even though I specifically said the opposite of what you stated, you claim that it is my position!

I don't think people on the Escapist should be posting things like that because that's not the nature of the site. However, Piracy is something that's happening in gaming culture right now, and discussing it's effects, it's validity and whatnot can't really happen if someone can't say that they support piracy. Some people torrent games. They're not boogeymen, they have their reasons for doing so, and they're not killing the industry.

The reason I said that by your logic the Escapist should ban anyone who doesn't like their advertisers games is because it has the exact same net effect on the company. People aren't buying their games. I would even argue that Piracy is better for a game company, because then even if they don't pay for the game, if they like it they can spread word-of-mouth, or they might spend money on merchandise for the game if they really like it.

Your complaint stems from the fact that this thread was altered to discourage people promoting piracy of a specific title, claiming there is an outright restriction of discussion of piracy. This is not the case. We can certainly discuss piracy. We simply can't promote support of it, or discuss it as a viable alternative to actually paying for games. Piracy is still a criminal act, regardless of your feelings on how it does or doesn't affect the game developer.

Is it better for someone to say they want the game for free instead of saying they don't want the game? That's an entirely different debate.
As it stands, it's not against the law to not play a game.

 

[vviki]

Wow, the Escapist is refusing to even allow opinions that counter its hard-assed view on Piracy. Classy, folks.

OT: Nah, it's probably not going to be very good.

Gearbox/Take-Two might want to buy advertising space here in the future. Why would they do that if 50% of Escapists have openly admitted they're going to play it without paying for it?

Oh, right, I forgot the users was responsible for selling ad space. I'm just saying software 'piracy' isn't the black and white debate that The Escapist regularly portrays it as and they should be tolerant of points of view that don't fall in line with theirs.

And hey, look! Half of the Escapist says they flat out don't want to play DNF. I'd say that's worse than wanting to play it without paying for selling ad space.

You're being ridiculous. Piracy is illegal. Bottom line is, Escapist Magazine as a company with a vested interest in the video game industry, which relies on actual sales to thrive, should not allow themselves to be associated with a pro-piracy community.

They have elected to disallow such discussion, which leaves you with two options: deal with that fact, or choose not to post here.

I'm not being ridiculous for wanting a balanced forum for a discussion on one of the bigger issues in the gaming community today on a gaming website. Again, by your logic, the Escapist should hit the banhammer on anyone who doesn't like games that have been advertised here, including their beloved cash-cow Yahtzee.

I'm not saying piracy is good, or that we should all pirate games, or that we should all brag about pirating games, but one should be allowed to talk about piracy within the context of games on a gaming website without having to filter their opinions through the 'pirates are just meanies' narrative that most writers on The Escapist fall in with.

Well if we're going to put words in each others mouths, your logic dictates Escapist users should use this as a torrent linklist and console modding how-to guide. Everyone on the internet can come here to discuss how to get games for free and the publishers will never see another cent out of any of us.

I'm sure that will help Escapist Magazine stay in business.

Ohoho, how droll of you, even though I specifically said the opposite of what you stated, you claim that it is my position!

I don't think people on the Escapist should be posting things like that because that's not the nature of the site. However, Piracy is something that's happening in gaming culture right now, and discussing it's effects, it's validity and whatnot can't really happen if someone can't say that they support piracy. Some people torrent games. They're not boogeymen, they have their reasons for doing so, and they're not killing the industry.

The reason I said that by your logic the Escapist should ban anyone who doesn't like their advertisers games is because it has the exact same net effect on the company. People aren't buying their games. I would even argue that Piracy is better for a game company, because then even if they don't pay for the game, if they like it they can spread word-of-mouth, or they might spend money on merchandise for the game if they really like it.

Your complaint stems from the fact that this thread was altered to discourage people promoting piracy of a specific title, claiming there is an outright restriction of discussion of piracy. This is not the case. We can certainly discuss piracy. We simply can't promote support of it, or discuss it as a viable alternative to actually paying for games. Piracy is still a criminal act, regardless of your feelings on how it does or doesn't affect the game developer.

Is it better for someone to say they want the game for free instead of saying they don't want the game? That's an entirely different debate.
As it stands, it's not against the law to not play a game.

I still don't see the point of all this. If I had been more subtle would it have been better? As in option3: I will try the game first, then make up my mind; Also, just because it's not there in the poll it means that it's not an option? that it doesn't exist, that no one is going to pirate the game? No, of course not. I'm not sure people would admit to wanting to pirate the game either. No one here has mentioned it.

 

[Freedomario]

Maybe, ive never played a Duke Nukeum game, as as now seeing that it is being developed by Gearbox, As i have played borderlands, i think they will do well with the game.

 

[Viking Incognito]

I will defiantly rent it, but I wont buy it.

 

[destiaer]

If it's good yes. If it's bad, no.

What he said.

 

[Rad Party God]

As much skepticism as I have about this game, every single Duke game/version that I've get my hands into was ALWAYS a blast of epic proportions. Be it Duke Nukem (DOS, N64, Windows Source Port with HD textures and lame 3D models), Time To Kill (PSOne), Zero Hour (N64) and the rather obscure but still awesome Manhattan Project (PC).

We can always bet on Duke!

 

[Kermi]

I still don't see the point of all this. If I had been more subtle would it have been better? As in option3: I will try the game first, then make up my mind; Also, just because it's not there in the poll it means that it's not an option? that it doesn't exist, that no one is going to pirate the game? No, of course not. I'm not sure people would admit to wanting to pirate the game either. No one here has mentioned it.

That would be because a bunch of people who used to go with the "I'm just going to pirate it" response have been put on probation or banned.

 

[ckam]

I don't have a next generation console. So no.

 

[vviki]

I still don't see the point of all this. If I had been more subtle would it have been better? As in option3: I will try the game first, then make up my mind; Also, just because it's not there in the poll it means that it's not an option? that it doesn't exist, that no one is going to pirate the game? No, of course not. I'm not sure people would admit to wanting to pirate the game either. No one here has mentioned it.

That would be because a bunch of people who used to go with the "I'm just going to pirate it" response have been put on probation or banned.

Now I see... thanks for the clarification. Also I would like to apologize to everyone, I never meant to put any of you in trouble by adding shady options to my poll .

 

[Tipsy Giant]

of course, it is a franchise I liked, DN3D was my favourite fps from the doom era, so why wouldn't I?

everyone acts like it not coming out broke their heart, I just forgot about it and now its a delicious surprise

 

[DementedSheep]

Maybe. I've never played Duke Nukem but it looks like it could be fun. Yes its over the top but that?s the point, right?
I probably won't be getting it for quite a while tho, if I get it at all. Hopefully there will be a demo.

 

[Kermi]

I still don't see the point of all this. If I had been more subtle would it have been better? As in option3: I will try the game first, then make up my mind; Also, just because it's not there in the poll it means that it's not an option? that it doesn't exist, that no one is going to pirate the game? No, of course not. I'm not sure people would admit to wanting to pirate the game either. No one here has mentioned it.

That would be because a bunch of people who used to go with the "I'm just going to pirate it" response have been put on probation or banned.

Now I see... thanks for the clarification. Also I would like to apologize to everyone, I never meant to put any of you in trouble by adding shady options to my poll .

Oh, I doubt anyone here got banned, just generally the Escapist mods have been cracking down pretty hard on that kind of thing.

 

[Kenny Doyle]

Duke Nukem Forever, if anything I believe will just be a above standard, well-polished FPS. Although I won't wait for someone to clarify if it's "good" or not, I'll decide that myself.

Considering people are putting games that are coming out in 2010 first, probably means they'll see it in their hands eventually.

Because it's out in 2011.

 

[Scarecrow]

Ever since it's been announced that the game is finally coming out it's the center of most discussions. I talked about it with a friend, and he asked me that question, to which I replied "Always bet on Duke!". He'll get it too for the sheer epicness of something coming back after 12 years. What will you do?

Edit: Piracy is not an option and will not be accepted by this site ~Mod

The hell you on about?

There is no DNF and there never will be.

It was announced at PAX2010 and the game will actually be released the end of this year or the beginning of the next.

Oh shit!

Well I still don't think I will buy it. I've got other games to buy. Games that are fun.

 

[vviki]

I don't have a next generation console. So no.

It will be released on PC as well, and from what I see and hear it will use the Unreal 2.5 engine, which shouldn't be that hard on your machine, even if it's not the newest model.

 

[Makenzye]

Hells yeah, bro. Nobody ever accused me of financially responsible behavior, why wouldn't I?

 

[Trikeen]

YES YES YES YES x 1000 YES!

 

[Stephen Proud]

Never played Duke Nukem so I probably won't.

 

[vviki]

Once it's a little cheaper?... I know there's a very high chance it'll be just another decent FPS, and nothing more.
But dammit, once it's cheaper, I know that I'll be getting it.

Thought of adding this option, "when it's cheaper", but then that means waiting maybe even one more year and some can't take that