Poll: Will you opt out of the Sony Class Action Lawsuit?
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128bit encryption is unbreakable with current technology unless the implementation or underlying algorithm is faulty.Digitaldreamer7 said:
Exponential progression is a *****.
Nope.
Who here honestly wants to see Sony gone?
Handing the online proponent of console gaming over to Microsoft for them to monopolize is the first step towards the death of the industry. Why? Because competition is healthy. It makes all sides try harder to do better. Remove the competition, and Microsoft no longer has to try anymore simply because "it's us or nothing."
Enjoy the few hundred bucks you'll get out of the lawsuit. Hope it's worth it.
Who here honestly wants to see Sony gone?
Handing the online proponent of console gaming over to Microsoft for them to monopolize is the first step towards the death of the industry. Why? Because competition is healthy. It makes all sides try harder to do better. Remove the competition, and Microsoft no longer has to try anymore simply because "it's us or nothing."
Enjoy the few hundred bucks you'll get out of the lawsuit. Hope it's worth it.
I havent been notified about the "crisis" Sony is in right now, so if I start loosing money, i'm joining
This. Amusing that people see Sony's entertainment division going under as a good thing.New Troll said:
Just a heads up it's spelled precedent.Twilight_guy said:
Not trying to be an ass, but as a spell checker will never correct you I would hate for you to write this in something to your boss or anyone you want to appear intelligent to.
On with the actual thread:
I'm generally against litigation, but kinda support it this time because companies should be scared shitless of losing our information.
If we let this go without giving them a headache other companies may lax in their protection of our information. Otherwise it's clearly not worth their time to protect us after they have our money.
(Probably old news here.) You know, Sony supposedly waited several days to break the news of the hacking to their customers. So hackers had that much longer to try to jack stuff from bank accounts before the public was made aware.
http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/sony-was-unaware-of-stolen-account-information-for-days/
I mean, they can have their excuses, but they should have some sort of obligation to inform customers the minute their security is seriously compromised. They might not have known how bad it was, but to hold back information just on the chance it wasn't that bad and they wouldn't have had to say ANYTHING (which, face it, is what they were hoping) is extremely poor customer service.
Since I'm not personally affected and thus wasn't harmed by Sony's ineptitude and poor customer relations, I won't join the lawsuit. But I fully support those who do. Sony not taking customer privacy seriously (and obviously their PSN security itself wasn't sufficient, but that's a "hindsight" issue) is exactly the sort of thing folks should sue over.
My sympathies to anyone who had money stolen from a credit or debit card they could have frozen, had Sony decided to err on the side of caution and just say, "hey guys, a hacker busted into PSN, where you guys keep all your secure info. We don't know how bad it is, and it might be nothing at all, but we're gonna tell you NOW so you can freeze your accounts for a couple days or something." Instead some PR nerd probably talked Sony into screwing their customers in favor of company image.
This isn't about liking Sony or disliking them, and gamers shouldn't be afraid to sue Sony when they're IN THE WRONG, just because they might go belly-up at some point, which they probably won't! I don't care if I never play a Sony game again, but they shouldn't be able to use their game designer status to convince people that customer security isn't important!
http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/sony-was-unaware-of-stolen-account-information-for-days/
I mean, they can have their excuses, but they should have some sort of obligation to inform customers the minute their security is seriously compromised. They might not have known how bad it was, but to hold back information just on the chance it wasn't that bad and they wouldn't have had to say ANYTHING (which, face it, is what they were hoping) is extremely poor customer service.
Since I'm not personally affected and thus wasn't harmed by Sony's ineptitude and poor customer relations, I won't join the lawsuit. But I fully support those who do. Sony not taking customer privacy seriously (and obviously their PSN security itself wasn't sufficient, but that's a "hindsight" issue) is exactly the sort of thing folks should sue over.
My sympathies to anyone who had money stolen from a credit or debit card they could have frozen, had Sony decided to err on the side of caution and just say, "hey guys, a hacker busted into PSN, where you guys keep all your secure info. We don't know how bad it is, and it might be nothing at all, but we're gonna tell you NOW so you can freeze your accounts for a couple days or something." Instead some PR nerd probably talked Sony into screwing their customers in favor of company image.
This isn't about liking Sony or disliking them, and gamers shouldn't be afraid to sue Sony when they're IN THE WRONG, just because they might go belly-up at some point, which they probably won't! I don't care if I never play a Sony game again, but they shouldn't be able to use their game designer status to convince people that customer security isn't important!
I would like to join it but unfortunately I skipped this console generation entirely and see absolutely no reason to change that.
There is no point in suing Sony for this, the fault is not theirs. The fault of the matter belongs to the hacker(s) who breached Sony's defenses.
God, it isn't even Sony' fault that they got hacked. Xbox got hacked. iPhones get hacked. EVERYTHING IS HACKABLE!! It is no use seuing them anyway, just giving them more things to worry about instead of them focusing on solely getting the PSN back up. So, anyone that voted 'Yes' is either a COD deprived 10 year old crying in a corner somewhere or a 360 fanboy enjoying his consoles brief moment in the sun.
1. Yeah, because it's a "mild inconvenience" to have your social security number, credit card, misc. phone numbers, personal statistics (age, height, full name, possibly names of family members) and home address jacked. It's just kind of annoying to have to freeze what's probably your main checking account, freeze multiple credit cards and contact the bank to find out if you lost any money. Even if you didn't, ya probably have to get all new cards and get rid of the old ones.Danoloto said:
2. Welcome to all lawsuits. Sometimes a lawsuit must necessarily be about principle, although I'll admit that's a hard sell, considering the expense and drudgery of court dates and postponements. Sony will probably offer to settle if there's the slightest chance they'll lose, and most will be happy to accept. I'd also imagine most lawyers would be willing to handle a case like this for reasonable fees (or percentages), considering the MASSIVE publicity they would earn for themselves.
3. Poor reasoning. When Sony treat customers poorly they deserve to reap what they sow. When GM held millions of jobs hostage and said, "If we go down, we're taking all y'all with us," the government capitulated and tossed them money to keep the factories running. Sony isn't GM, but even if they were, they don't deserve special treatment for criminally negligent activities (and neither did GM).
4. Games=/=Sony. If Sony makes great games but treats customers like crap, should they keep making games? There will always be new great games, and to shrug off a major customer privacy violation like this by saying, "I like their games" feels cavalier to me. I like Sony games too, but if they can't deal with fallout from a situation they could have prevented (that is, they could have told the public the instant they knew something was up), then I guess they should go down for it.
Or... Someone who had his information stolen because it was on Sony's network and feels Sony should be held liable? Like everyone in the lawsuit? A "plaintiff?"JackWestJr said:
If customers hadn't given Sony the information (info Sony requires customers to provide, I'm sure), it wouldn't have been stolen. It was. The responsibility to protect your privacy when you give personal information to an organization IS ON THE COMPANY. The privacy clause in just about any agreement as much as says so. Phrases like, "we will not divulge your personal information to anyone" are statements with legal obligations, or at least as much obligation as any online agreement has.
My credit card information was in fact stolen and used. I caught it, stopped it and am taking all of the appropriate measures... and guess what, no warning or information came from Sony. They have not contacted me at all to let me know that my information is not safe. I had to hear about it from the escapist and G4.
As of now I am not planning to join the Law suit. I contacted Sony directly and so far just a generic response. If I am not contacted directly in a timely manner, I may consider joining the lawsuit. Because it has taken a LOT of my time to correct the theft and protect myself.
As of now I am not planning to join the Law suit. I contacted Sony directly and so far just a generic response. If I am not contacted directly in a timely manner, I may consider joining the lawsuit. Because it has taken a LOT of my time to correct the theft and protect myself.
Yes because it was their legal responsibility to keep this information safe, but they didn't even comply with regulatory standards regarding personal information.
It's not their fault that they got hacked, true. However, if someone robs your bank you would expect the bank to cover the losses as that was the deal; they keep your money safe and if they fail to do so they bare the burden of cost. It's the same with sony; you keep private data safe and should something go awry the costs fall on THEM not on the users.
It's not their fault that they got hacked, true. However, if someone robs your bank you would expect the bank to cover the losses as that was the deal; they keep your money safe and if they fail to do so they bare the burden of cost. It's the same with sony; you keep private data safe and should something go awry the costs fall on THEM not on the users.
Well, as far as i can tell, *my* privite information has remained privite, when i made the calls to report my CC's comermised, i reviewed the statments with the card companies, saw that no fradulegent charges were made, closed the cards, and have had new ones issued. I've already changed my passwords to nearly everything i'd log into, well, everything of merit, i haven't bothered to change my Escapist login or anything like that... losing my forum ID wouldn't be all that big a deal to me... heh.
I've already contacted my Gym and will pay this month's fee's today with a check, and update my payment info when my new discover card shows up, I cancaled my city of hero account outright because, well, i haven't played it in a month or 2, and have no disire too, and that basically leaves me with updating my freecreditreport.com account with new payment info... they tend to bill me on the 19th of each month, so my coverage won't laps. And i'm switching to game cards for my XBL account and, if i ever even consider a PSN purches, it'll be a game card, so... out side of a few minor inconviences, most of which i've already resolved, and a week without my CC's, which may accually SAVE me money... i can't see see were i'd have any grounds to join a class action suit. *shrug*
TLDR version, nope. I was hardly effected at all...
I've already contacted my Gym and will pay this month's fee's today with a check, and update my payment info when my new discover card shows up, I cancaled my city of hero account outright because, well, i haven't played it in a month or 2, and have no disire too, and that basically leaves me with updating my freecreditreport.com account with new payment info... they tend to bill me on the 19th of each month, so my coverage won't laps. And i'm switching to game cards for my XBL account and, if i ever even consider a PSN purches, it'll be a game card, so... out side of a few minor inconviences, most of which i've already resolved, and a week without my CC's, which may accually SAVE me money... i can't see see were i'd have any grounds to join a class action suit. *shrug*
TLDR version, nope. I was hardly effected at all...
No. Partly because I didn't have a credit card attached to my PsN, as well as all the information being so outdated they couldn't use it for anything. The other part being I don't care, I just really don't care. Also, while we're suing Sony for losing our personal information, I say we go sue the government for taxing the money we work so hard to earn, and they do nothing and get a quarter of it.
Your avatar with your post was perfect. I just fixed one typo though.Kingsnake661 said:
I may hate Sony for some of their shitty products (long story) but suing them because they got hacked is just stupid. I don't recall the T&A saying they would protect our credit card number. Also I don't have a PS3 either...yet. Just a Wii and Xbox 360.