Poll: Women like jerks?

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Syzygy23

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Zen Bard said:
Kathinka said:
Talking as a mostly straight woman: To an extend.

Women like confident, assertive, high value guys.
This often overlaps with "jerks", or, more correctly the cocky-asshole, in a funny way, type guy.
We don't want guys that crawl to our feet, put us on a pedestal and do everything for us. This signals that the guy doesn't have many options, hence he can't have great value. Now if a guy teases us, challenges us and isn't afraid to upset us a little bit, not putting up with all of the little tests we girls throw at dudes, that guy clearly has other options, that's what we like.
And often, the jerks are just like that.
Best advice a man could get from a woman!

(And it backs up everything my wife's told me...thank God!)
Jesus Christ, what is this, /r theredpill? "High Value Guys", seriously? You're buying IN to that fedora-neckbeard crap? If someone values you over themselves, that's GOOD thing. I'd recommend you not listen to this woman, she sounds like she's got issues.
 

Fairly Chaotic

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Maybe some women are specifically attracted to jerks, but I do not believe that most women are. All women are attracted to confidence. Jerks are full of (themselves) confidence. Ergo, jerks are great at attracting women. Now keeping them, that is for a different discussion.
 

Zen Bard

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Syzygy23 said:
Zen Bard said:
Kathinka said:
Talking as a mostly straight woman: To an extend.

Women like confident, assertive, high value guys.
This often overlaps with "jerks", or, more correctly the cocky-asshole, in a funny way, type guy.
We don't want guys that crawl to our feet, put us on a pedestal and do everything for us. This signals that the guy doesn't have many options, hence he can't have great value. Now if a guy teases us, challenges us and isn't afraid to upset us a little bit, not putting up with all of the little tests we girls throw at dudes, that guy clearly has other options, that's what we like.
And often, the jerks are just like that.
Best advice a man could get from a woman!

(And it backs up everything my wife's told me...thank God!)
Jesus Christ, what is this, /r theredpill? "High Value Guys", seriously? You're buying IN to that fedora-neckbeard crap? If someone values you over themselves, that's GOOD thing. I'd recommend you not listen to this woman, she sounds like she's got issues.
Read her advice again. The key is in all the stuff AFTER the "high value" comment.

Sure, it's a good thing to value another person, but never at the expense of your own convictions or beliefs. That starts looking a lot like low self-esteem...which is never an attractive quality.

It's a weirdly slippery slope.

(Edit: I revised this post because I was stuck at the airport and took my cranky-ass, Thanksgiving travel frustration out on my response Syzygy23. For that I apologize)
 

Zen Bard

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mad825 said:
Zen Bard said:
Kathinka said:
Talking as a mostly straight woman: To an extend.

Women like confident, assertive, high value guys.
This often overlaps with "jerks", or, more correctly the cocky-asshole, in a funny way, type guy.
We don't want guys that crawl to our feet, put us on a pedestal and do everything for us. This signals that the guy doesn't have many options, hence he can't have great value. Now if a guy teases us, challenges us and isn't afraid to upset us a little bit, not putting up with all of the little tests we girls throw at dudes, that guy clearly has other options, that's what we like.
And often, the jerks are just like that.
Best advice a man could get from a woman!

(And it backs up everything my wife's told me...thank God!)
Brilliant! A generic, throwaway advice that every woman gives. You'd be better off going to military school and getting the "to be best of the best" hocus-pocus drilled into your skull.

Women want high value guys? No shit given the materialism of most people.
Seems to me if "every woman" is giving you this advice, it's probably worth paying attention.
 

Padwolf

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Hang on, I have the exact image for this thread..



No, women do not prefer jerks. I can't speak for all women, but as one myself, I can say that I do not prefer a jerk. I love men who are nice, caring, and have quite a bit of confidence, who aren't going to ask me every other day "you love me don't you?" I don't want a guy who is going to get down on his knees and do everything I ask him to. I don't want a man who is going to simper down at every argument. I love my boyfriend, he doesn't baby me, he doesn't put me down, he doesn't simper. I don't like jerks. I do, however, love sarcasm and love a guy who isn't afraid to joke around.
 

Zacharious-khan

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Jerk is poorly defined and a top down strategy which doesn't work to ease understanding in this case. Try a bottom up one instead.