Poll: World Of Warcraft Catalysm- Too much?
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Thank you, you reminded me of yet another reason why I can't stand WOW. It screws up the storylines from the RTS series that WOW takes all of its backstory from. Okay, I'll admit that much of Warcraft 3 and Frozen Throne were largely setting this up BUT there is a MAJOR PLOT HOLE in WOW! How in the hell did Illidan survive his battle with Arthus in Northrend? And another thing... Assuming that Illidan was somehow able to bullshit his way back to life (as WOW would suggest), why the hell hasn't the burning legion tried to go after him yet? Lastly, why aren't all of the Blood Elves with Kael'Thas and Illidan in that dimension that the Orcs came from? I've asked a few friends who have been playing WOW since it came out (and still do), and all they can do is shrug and say "I dunno" (and before you ask, yes they were actually looking into the lore). Another problem that I have with WoW is that it has pretty much guarenteed that Blizzard will never ever release another Warcraft strategy game. Even worse, I sometimes wonder if they'll give Starcraft the same treatment. Speaking of Starcraft, I'm even more concerned that with all of the attention that Blizzard has been giving WOW with all of the expansion packs and endless plague of patches, is whether or not Blizzard will ever FINISH work on any non-WOW game. Starcraft 2 was supposed to be released 2 years ago! And they had reportedly been working on it since Warcraft 3 came out! I fail to see how any game would need THAT much bug-testing. And while I only have moderate interest in Diablo 3, I have a feeling that Blizzard will blow that project off too, in favor of the umpteen billionth WOW update.Amarok said:
itss going to be cheap... be able to dive bomb on ur fly mount and kill noobs in pvp servers ugg
Because "apparently" Those wern't all the blood elves, which it didn't mention before. But it's not unbelievable since it set up the fact that someone was still ruling over them at silvermoon. And the ones that Keal'thas took were in Outlands, since we got to them all.TheDoctor455 said:
Anyway, OT: Admittedly, Cataclysm does sort of leave a few things in a confused state lore-wise, such as Night elves being mage. But it still all sounds fun and personally iv'e been getting a little bored of Kalimdor and Eastern kingdoms.
Also, I <3 Worgen
I see it as blizzard rebooting their old content, granted im wondering what will happen to the old raids and such, but since almost nobody ever does those raids anymore, heck, Ulduar is now the new Naxxramus in terms of difficulty with the new ToC raid and ToC dungeon, but I digress, no one was raiding the old content anymore, no one wanted to spend weeks getting their T1 - 3 sets anymore, heck no one raids the old BC content anymore aside from achievements, and they saw it as a waste of good programming so they are revamping everything so that even new players who rolled a Death Knight or never did the old content will have a reason to do it.
There is a difference between blood elves and high elvesSalmaras said:
Their eyes
Yes their Eyes can give them away to being either a blood or a high elf and frankly, I thought the alliance should have gotten a High Elf race over a Werewolf but werewolves are ok
To tell the difference - Blood Elf eyes glow Green, High Elf eyes shine blue - So Green is Blood, Blue is High
No, it's not too much.
An evolving world?
Flying mounts in 'old world'?
Things asked for for years.
An evolving world?
Flying mounts in 'old world'?
Things asked for for years.
I'd love to choke the folks that said yes.
Maybe not to death...but still...a good choking is in order.
Maybe not to death...but still...a good choking is in order.
No. No it doesn't; it progresses it.TheDoctor455 said:
I forget the precise specifics, but suffice it to say, glancing blow.TheDoctor455 said:
[Edit: There is a questline in Icecrown that shows players the progression of Arthas from paladin charging after Mal'ganis to evil bastard Lich King who cuts out his own heart.]
Because he holed himself up in Black Temple.TheDoctor455 said:
Then they should've done the first quest you get in Shattrath, it explains everything.TheDoctor455 said:
[Edit: Essentially the leader of the rather large assault force sent to march on Shattrath received a vision from the Naaru telling him that the survival of the Blood Elf race pretty much depended on Shattrath not beinf razed to the ground by said Blood Elves.]
That's a lot.TheDoctor455 said:
Right; WoW subscription pays for use of the servers and development of content patches. Is it really a plague when it's giving you more stuff to play?
Blizzard is famous for not releasing something half-finished (hurr durr WoW and its patches doesn't count), so you're really up in arms that they're trying to make their other games as good as they can before shipping them?
i played it at blizzcon it was really fun the worgen ftw they look really cool and the transformation is really cool the goblins are ok there like gnomes for the horde nothing to special and there not werewols there worgen get it straight
Yes; get it straight, or he'll CUT YA!
Not too keen on Goblins tbh, a Worgen will probably be the only Alliance character I ever roll but hey ho.
Not too keen on Goblins tbh, a Worgen will probably be the only Alliance character I ever roll but hey ho.
Exactly what I was thinking, but then I started wondering if this expansion was some kind of alternate universe-esque occurrence, considering it seems that Deathwing's plans succeed.Amarok said:
OT: I really don't feel like its too much.
Its enough for me. I like the whole idea of the changes that are going to be in it, and I would definitely love to try out the Worgen.
I quite like questing in Darkshore, but I agree about Desolace, out of all my friends, and all my guildies, no one I know has quested there, ever. And I must see more of Azshara, just to see if I can solo this raid boss.frankenpimp said:
Personally, I like the concept of the new expansion changing a large amount of the "old world," while adding less new high level content. In BC, 2 new races were added, with new leveling areas that get the characters to level 20-ish, but the rest of 20-58 was entirely unchanged. WotLK did nothing to change the game for low level characters. At this point, many players have a character, or even a few, at the level cap (I have 2, and another that's within spitting distance). Once you're at the cap, doing your dailies and the 12 or so instances gets repetitive, and an alternative is to level an "alt." However, you are presented with the exact same race/class combinations you had when you made your first character (with the addition of one 'heroic class' in WotLK and 2 races in BC, if you're really old-school). The leveling areas haven't changed at all, and it's easy to get a feeling of deja vu. Changing the leveling areas and introducing new race/class combinations can, if done well, make the game seem new again, even to experienced players.
As to whether the new combinations (like Tauren Paladin or Night Elf Mage) make sense, I offer this: The horde and alliance are both the union of different cultures. At the beginning of WoW, right after the events of Warcraft 3 + expansion, these unions were brand new; there had been little co-mingling between, say, night elves and gnomes. However, for the past several years, There has been constant interaction between the races of the factions. Doesn't it make sense for, say, a young night elf to be curious about arcane magics, or for a Tauren to ask a Blood Elf about the path of the Light? I think it's a natural progression of the untied factions.
Wow, I wrote a lot. Sorry about the walls of text!
As to whether the new combinations (like Tauren Paladin or Night Elf Mage) make sense, I offer this: The horde and alliance are both the union of different cultures. At the beginning of WoW, right after the events of Warcraft 3 + expansion, these unions were brand new; there had been little co-mingling between, say, night elves and gnomes. However, for the past several years, There has been constant interaction between the races of the factions. Doesn't it make sense for, say, a young night elf to be curious about arcane magics, or for a Tauren to ask a Blood Elf about the path of the Light? I think it's a natural progression of the untied factions.
Wow, I wrote a lot. Sorry about the walls of text!
No, I'm not against them making the game as good as they can before it ships. What I AM concerned with is that with all of the attention they've been giving WOW (let's face it, that behemoth has been dominating their time for the past several years... getting close to a full decade at this point), I'm concerned that they won't ever work on anything else ever again. And that all we'll ever see in the future are more WOW patches and expansions. Remember, Blizzard has its roots in Real Time Strategy games, it would be nice to seem them return to those roots for a change. And let's not forget that the last time they promised a new Starcraft game (that would be Starcraft: Ghost), the project never panned out.Loop Stricken said:
And as for the assertion that WOW just "picks up" from where Warcraft 3 and Frozen Throne left off... okay... it does, sort of. But most of what it does is treat everything from all of the previous Warcraft games as backstory, as something that has almost no impact on the current state of Azeroth.
Actually Deathwing faked his own death, went into hiding and used a human avatar to take control of Alterac and had his sights on a position of leadership in Stormwind. I cant remember what happened to his human avatar but i know that it was replaced with Katrana Prestor/Onyxia in the Stormwind throne chamberAmarok said: