Poll: World Of Warcraft Catalysm- Too much?

[Reep]

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Illidan was only struck down, not killed, if Arthas stabbed him then id agree with you but all you saw was a slash in the torso.

The Burning Legion hasnt gone after him because Illidan sealed all the portals to Outland to stop the demons getting a significant foothold in Outland.

About the Warcraft strategy games:
http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Arreat-Summit/Warcraft-4-Confirmed-Starcraft-2-to-be-a-Trilogy
Warcraft 4 was confirmed, but we probably won't see much about it for a long long time.

 

[Flying-Emu]

Flying Mounts in standard Azeroth is going to increase ganking by over 9000% percent.

 

[sturryz]

My argument would be that it wouldn't make any sense if they didn't change the world, you would think that with the war with 2 forces of evil would have some rather drastic changes.

 

[Mcupobob]

I actullay recactviated my account when i saw this coming out. it Looks interisting and hope to see it soon.

 

[RoyalStranger]

My argument would be that it wouldn't make any sense if they didn't change the world, you would think that with the war with 2 forces of evil would have some rather drastic changes.

Exactly, it would be like hiding an elephant behind a couch. You would automatically expect some big changes with a war and such.

Especially when you think of what happens in both BC and LK.

 

[TundraWolf]

Well, considering I have been fervently against playing World of Warcraft ever since it came out, you should all hopefully recognize the significance of what I will say here:

Cataclysm has got me intrigued in playing. I think it's mostly because I find the concept of playing a werewolf character awesome, but there's more to it than that.

The reason I play role-playing games is for the story, plain and simple. This is the main reason that I find the appeal of MMORPG's so compelling: at their base concept, MMO's are all about grind, with absolutely no story to them. Yeah, sure, they're a social experience too, but the gamepla boils down to pure grind.

I've tried World of Warcraft and enjoyed the first ten levels, when you're still doing the beginning quests and there's at least the semblance of a story. But, all in all, I've never felt compelled to go further than that. But, with the stuff I've read about Cataclysm, especially with the advancing phases of areas, it seems like they're trying to add story elements to the MMO. And that's what intrigues me.

That and the fact you can play as a werewolf.

For those reasons alone, I think that Cataclysm is a step in the right direction for what MMO's should be. So props to the Blizzard guys and gals for doing that.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Cataclysm is dangerous, all the new changes make me want to play again. I've been on and off the needle since launch and this might just be enough to get me back in the mix.

I think the changes are exactly what was needed, since a lot of the "old" world was really everquest holdover content that doesn't really have a place in modern gaming. The stupid slime bag quest in the wetlands was a 1 in 50 drop, usually of overlevel mobs by the time you got it.

Mounts at lower level were needed, dual specs were needed, but the thing that gets me the most excited is cross server pugging. No more waiting hours for a group for razorfen kraul or sunken temple just because you happen to have 6 quests there. Also rated BGs bring back some of the old school awesomeness of the PVP titles.

Not that I will definitely go back because I just don't have a lot of time these days. But if I were to go back I would switch to a PVE server. My first character at launch was an Alliance priest on a pvp server who leveled as discipline. But since I was used to UO or old school pvp muds I didn't realize how awful that was.

As far as I'm concerned the game is only getting better. Maybe the "hardcore" crowd is being alienated but that is the breaks, they can always satisfy their masochism in Vanguard or EVE.

 

[Wulfen73]

Ummm I'm not sure if everyone is aware but WoW begins 5 years after Frozen Throne leaves off, so everything else is history and backstory, no more relevant than warcraft 1 to warcraft 2, or 2 to 3 and really yes there is a few holes, or things simply being rewritten to better fit, but the main plot is quite solid, especially for those who took the time to watch the teaser movie to Black Temple where it shows Illidan sealing the portals to keep the legion largely out outlands.

Also the actual difference in High and blood elves is that Blood elves fed off of demonic energy which is why their eyes turned green. Also many elves remained behind in Silvermoon to reclaim their ancesteral home and 'before Sunwell' await Kael's signal for them all to move to Outlands when it was relatively safe (Wowwiki.com is a wonderful resource)

Thirdly in my nerdrage, Arthas vs Illidan, we are talking Arthas, guy empowered by a creation of Kil'Jaden Sargeras' third man, he wasn't the lich king yet vs Illidan, a guy empowered by Sargeras, then ate the most powerful of the Dreadlords and took his power, then ate the power of the skull of Gul'dan and he is 10,000+ years old. It's a mircale Arthas beat him at all, killing him would have been really really tough

Forthly, comparing Deathwing to the balrog is like comparing A mon calamari cruiser to a stormtrooper, yes they have very very vague similarities, but in concept and essence they are completely different Deathwing is the Dragon Aspect of Earth and the burning inside of him is lava not fire, the balrog is some random fire demon with as much backstory as a new pair of pants.

Lastly come my age old question, if you have no interest in WoW why bother giving your opinion about how much you hate it? If you hate it don't read topics about it *Sighs* That was my nerdrage, thank you for reading

 

[Thurmer]

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You don't enjoy wow, good for you now please don't write about how you dislike the game instead go punch a cat or something constructive.

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ok, i pretty much disagree with your entire post but i'll be concise.

1) they needed to revamp the world because as it is at the moment there is features of the game such as flying mounts which cannot be implemented into the old azeroth (because of the way its modeled not everything is properly 3D and instead 2D)

2) Goblins and worgen (not werewolves) actually are already in the game/world, but you can see how a giant spaceship crashing into azeroth filled with blue cow people but not 2 races that already exist?

3) It is not actually messing with any storyline, to keep things fresh and interesting they are continuing it and furthering the lore and really Tolkien didn't invent dragons last time i checked.

Basically unless you want 11 million players to play the same content some more WoW needs to make changes to keep it fresh. I personally haven't played the game in over a year but i'll definately come back to re-level a char through the new Azeroth and I'm guessing alot of other ex-players will too.

 

[Thurmer]

No, I'm not against them making the game as good as they can before it ships. What I AM concerned with is that with all of the attention they've been giving WOW (let's face it, that behemoth has been dominating their time for the past several years... getting close to a full decade at this point), I'm concerned that they won't ever work on anything else ever again. And that all we'll ever see in the future are more WOW patches and expansions. Remember, Blizzard has its roots in Real Time Strategy games, it would be nice to seem them return to those roots for a change. And let's not forget that the last time they promised a new Starcraft game (that would be Starcraft: Ghost), the project never panned out.

And as for the assertion that WOW just "picks up" from where Warcraft 3 and Frozen Throne left off... okay... it does, sort of. But most of what it does is treat everything from all of the previous Warcraft games as backstory, as something that has almost no impact on the current state of Azeroth.

wow isn't taking up blizzes time over any other game, you probably don't know this but blizzard have been constantly employing masses of new people, look for yourself http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/

its literally always full of jobs because the amount of time spent keeping wow up and expanding is huge but with that money they would be receiving they can put that back into the game and others like starcraft. now you also said something about blah blah roots of the company, why should that stop them from continuing the, probably, largest and most profitable game in history? its like hey lets stop printing money and put our resources to magazines! im sure the magazines were great but dont be stupid.

 

[Mr.Pandah]

Its finally some fresh life going into what is otherwise a stagnant gaming land. If you haven't hopped on the WoW train by now, this isn't going to change your mind. It is however, a very much needed breath of fresh air for the millions of people still playing it. How long has that war been going on for between....everyone? 4-5 years now? Its about time some lands started getting demolished/changed.

 

[Computer-Noob]

"Murder of lore" Is probably the most laughable, dimwitted, most pathetic reason to say WoW sucks. If all the same things that have happened in WoW happened in a RTS (Like what Warcraft 4 WOULD have been) No one would be complaining. I dont mind it too much though, since 100% of the time all the "reasons why lore is dead" are just plain stupid.

OP: Your balrog comment made me laugh. I guess every time you see a sword in a game, its a ripoff of something else too, right? Every tree, every building?

I mean, Deathwing and a balrog dont even look similar at all. Other than the whole "fiery" image, but come on. Thats just stupid to use that as the basis of an arguement.

 

[VargRaev]

This is definately not too much.

This is probably the best thing that they could introduce in an expansion.
The old zones revamped, so now i can make a thousand alts (again), but this time there will be new quests to complete, and new zones to explore!
Flying mounts in Azeroth doesnt really look bad.
The new races look cool, the only problem i have with them is that it seems like Blizzard is more focused on the Worgens, but the expansion isnt released so anything is speculation.
The new class are great, c'mon... Troll Druid!

 

[Altorin]

when's the last time you levelled up through azeroth?

It's absolutely dreadful.

 

[slipknot4]

The great sundering all over again? Hell ya!

 

[Christemo]

it will be fucking awesome. goblins with TF2´s rocket jump? check.
Worgen. Check.
Gilneas. Check.
Worldwide Destruction. Check.
Deathwing and Azhara. Check.
Ragnaros. Check.

everything else. Check.

the conclusion= *ding ding ding ding* we have a winner!

 

[Christemo]

This is definately not too much.

This is probably the best thing that they could introduce in an expansion.
The old zones revamped, so now i can make a thousand alts (again), but this time there will be new quests to complete, and new zones to explore!
Flying mounts in Azeroth doesnt really look bad.
The new races look cool, the only problem i have with them is that it seems like Blizzard is more focused on the Worgens, but the expansion isnt released so anything is speculation.
The new class are great, c'mon... Troll Druid!

Tauren Paladin ftw. JUDGEMENT OF MOO!

 

[Jenkins]

couldn't care, WoW has gotten so ridiculously easy that going through the content is like a hot knife through butter.

BRING BACK VANILLA WOW.

 

[Smudge91]

Personally i'm really excited for catalysm. Yes it will be a shame to lose the old azeroth as it was pretty but its exciting to see it change. The new races also give something new. I've tried out every race on both fractions and have only kept with one (a knight elf druid) as i got bored with others. Secondly the quests got a bit tedious and travelling around was a pain, luckily for druids we get a travel form yay. But yes i'm excited and i'll go back to it when i have some cash. Thats the only thing about WOW that i'm not fond of but know its a necessity for them to make a profit is that i have to pay and being a student i'm pretty damn poor. Yay for the new expansion.