Poll: World War 1 and 2 - who did more for the French?

Trivun

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Last night I was watching an episode of the Simpsons, and during the episode a Frenchman mentions that the Americans saved the French twice from the Germans in the World Wars. This annoyed me slightly, since the main forces in Europe for the Allies were, on both occasions, British. As a proud Englishman I took offence that the USA seems to think it did more for the French in the wars than the British against the Axis forces. Especially since the US troops in those wars were more involved in fighting on a completely different front against the Japanese. So, I ask you, fellow Escapists. Who do you think were more involved in the liberation of France from the Germans? The USA? The UK? Or perhaps a different country altogether. Please post your thoughts here so we can decide now who truly deserves the credit for WW1 and WW2.
 

Valkyira

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Thats just typical America. They think they did everything to win the war but they actually did fuck all.
 

Cpt_Oblivious

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I say the Commonwealth [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations]. Britain can't take all the credit.
No, America, that does not include you.
 

MasterStratus

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I'm American, and I think the UK did more to help the French.
They let in refugees, and then helped out the resistance.
The Americans didn't really do much.
We're lazy.
 

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I know one thing for sure, it definately wasn't Germany....


Probably the neighbouring regions of France. The US only gave troops, even if the troops were vital, they're not the whole war.

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Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Thats just typical America. They think they did everything to win the war but they actually did fuck all.
That's a little unfair, a lot of US soldiers died. Not saying they should be so bigheaded as they are, but you know, credit where credit is due.
 

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Well since we were all allies during that, war no One country can take credit for it... For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America and other countries on D day... And If America was going at it without the help of britain and the allies, than we wouldn't of won unless we used nukes on germany...

Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: OKAY after being quoted 50 times.. I just tried to put this as simply as I could, I realize the term WORLD WAR... But didn't want to be bothered with all the nitty gritty details.... Stop quoting ME DAMNIT

EDIT2: I NEVER SAID NUKES WERE DROPPED ON GERMANY... It was just very poor wording
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
I say the Commonwealth. Britain can't take all the credit.
No, America, that does not include you.
This. Credit where credit's due, Britain didn't do everything on it's own, but at least we turned up before we knew which side was going to win.
 

Trivun

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GodsOneMistake said:
Well since we were all allies during that, war no One country can take credit for it... For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day... And without the use of Nukes on Germany, America couldn't have secured the eastern part of europe, without the help of the brits.
Sorry, but I just hope that's sarcasm (not an easy thing to put across in a forum post). There were no nukes dropped on Germany and it was the Russians who first took the eastern part of Europe, then the Allies were able to surround Berlin in the months following D-Day. I'm guessing you were being sarcastic, but I just can't be sure. No offence meant.
 

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GodsOneMistake said:
Well since we were all allies during that, war no One country can take credit for it... For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day... And without the use of Nukes on Germany, America couldn't have secured the eastern part of europe, without the help of the brits.
Sorry what? Use of nukes on Germany?!?
 

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Trivun said:
GodsOneMistake said:
Well since we were all allies during that, war no One country can take credit for it... For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day... And without the use of Nukes on Germany, America couldn't have secured the eastern part of europe, without the help of the brits.
Sorry, but I just hope that's sarcasm (not an easy thing to put across in a forum post). There were no nukes dropped on Germany and it was the Russians who first took the eastern part of Europe, then the Allies were able to surround Berlin in the months following D-Day. I'm guessing you were being sarcastic, but I just can't be sure. No offence meant.
Oh sorry let me fix that... Western europe.... And what I meant to say was.... If America was alone, we would of had no chance of winning UNLESS we used the Nukes...
 

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This is why you don't watch the Simpsons for a history lesson.


On topic, even though they barely participated in WWI (relative to everyone else), I believe that the Americans were a close second behind the British, in terms of liberating France in WWII
 

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Agent Larkin said:
GodsOneMistake said:
Well since we were all allies during that, war no One country can take credit for it... For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day... And without the use of Nukes on Germany, America couldn't have secured the eastern part of europe, without the help of the brits.
Sorry what? Use of nukes on Germany?!?
Grevensher said:
GodsOneMistake said:
Well since we were all allies during that, war no One country can take credit for it... For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day... And without the use of Nukes on Germany, America couldn't have secured the eastern part of europe, without the help of the brits.
use of nukes on Germany???????

And in both wars the Germans helped the most. Especially World War 2. Had Hitler not decided to pull a Napoleon and stay bogged down in Russia in the winter, he would have totally pwned Europe.
What I meant to say was.... We wouldn't of won alone UNLESS WE USED NUKES>>.
 

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Pr0 InSaNiTy said:
Thats just typical America. They think they did everything to win the war but they actually did fuck all.
What an informed opinion.

I'm not going to go on a rant and say that America is the end all be all, but seriously? That's just ignorant.
 

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GodsOneMistake said:
For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day.
We actually got a load of troops from Ireland, Canada and Australia. Don't take all the credit.

GodsOneMistake said:
And without the use of Nukes on Germany
This is why everyone thinks Americans are stupid. Nukes were only used on Japan as they were developed after VE Day.
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
GodsOneMistake said:
For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day.
We actually got a load of troops from ireland, Canada and Australia. Don't take all the credit.

GodsOneMistake said:
And without the use of Nukes on Germany
This is why everyone thinks Americans are stupid. Nukes were only used on Japan as they were developed after VE Day.
Damnit Captain.. I fixed the mistake. read it again. I never meant to say nukes were dropped on germany
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
GodsOneMistake said:
For example britain couldn't have beaten off the Germans without the rush of soldiers from America on D day.
We actually got a load of troops from ireland, Canada and Australia. Don't take all the credit.
Shush!! We aren't supposed to have been in the war.