Poll: Would a Batman movie with the Riddler have worked better than TDKR?

[Gizmo1990]

I enjoyed The Dark Knight Rises. Not the best movie but I liked it. However I did not like Bane. I just do not think he worked very well and his voice was beyond irritating (even worse than Bale's Batman voice). After thinking about it I do think that The Riddler would have been better. As Nolan has tried for some kind of realism in his Batman movies I think The Riddler would have been a better choice but then I have always liked The Riddler more than Bane so I am a bit biased.

 

[Hoplon]

No.

It wasn't that sort of Batman film.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

Maybe, but people would still piss and moan that it?s not as good as Heath Ledger?s Joker. And the Riddler might?ve been too camp for Nolan?s Batman trilogy, unless they made changes.

 

[Gizmo1990]

No.

It wasn't that sort of Batman film.

I did not mean to imply that removing Bane and have the Riddler instead would have worked I ment would a different movie with The Riddler have worked better than TDKR. My bad. I modified the thread title.

 

[Hoplon]

No.

It wasn't that sort of Batman film.

I did not mean to imply that removing Bane and have the Riddler instead would have worked I ment would a different movie with The Riddler have worked better than TDKR. My bad. I modified the thread title.

Okay. No, since Chris Nolan wouldn't have been making it, these are the first Batman films that aren't horrible narrative messes.

 

[Erttheking]

That's a tricky question. It certainly would have made for a clever deceptive film but the riddles would have had to be careful not to fall into "painfully easy" or "how the hell was I supposed to figure that out" territory. Also he would have had to top the Joker, easier said than done.

 

[Gizmo1990]

No.

It wasn't that sort of Batman film.

I did not mean to imply that removing Bane and have the Riddler instead would have worked I ment would a different movie with The Riddler have worked better than TDKR. My bad. I modified the thread title.

Okay. No, since Chris Nolan wouldn't have been making it, these are the first Batman films that aren't horrible narrative messes.

No dude. If Nolan had made a movive with The Riddler instead of TDKR with Bane.

 

[Hoplon]

No dude. If Nolan had made a movive with The Riddler instead of TDKR with Bane.

Your adding one and one and getting three, He helped write these films, it was a concious choice not to use the Riddler because he didn't think it would make a good film.

 

[hermes]

Don't think so.

For the most part, Riddler is a campy villain. His whole motif is teasing Batman that he is smarter than him. Haven't seen TDKR yet, so I can't tell if Bane is handled better...

 

[shrekfan246]

No dude. If Nolan had made a movive with The Riddler instead of TDKR with Bane.

Your adding one and one and getting three, He helped write these films, it was a concious choice not to use the Riddler because he didn't think it would make a good film.

You're really bad at thinking of hypothetical situations, aren't you?

OT: I would've liked to see Christopher Nolan's take on The Riddler, especially after how he was portrayed in Arkham City. As for if it would have "worked better" than Dark Knight Rises, well, I can't really say that because I have no insider view on how Hollywood works and I'm not exactly qualified to make guesses about projections certain movie pitches would have.

It likely would've ended up similar to the Joker, though, because neither of those two baddies can really match up to Batman in pure physical strength.

 

[Hoplon]

You're really bad at thinking of hypothetical situations, aren't you?

Nope, just bored with peoples obsession with "I wish X personal thing had been inserted" rather than try to experience what's there.

No they weren't your choices and thank dog for small mercies.

 

[Terminate421]

If I were to replace Bane at all I would have picked Penguin IMO. This is only because the Riddler is pretty...silly. Plus the only actor that works for him is Jim Carrey.

 

[ImSkeletor]

Bane was one of the many things i hated about DKR. So yes.

 

[shrekfan246]

You're really bad at thinking of hypothetical situations, aren't you?

Nope, just bored with peoples obsession with "I wish X personal thing had been inserted" rather than try to experience what's there.

No they weren't your choices and thank dog for small mercies.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.378875-Scariest-Game-Ever#14837026

You had nothing constructive to add except "Nope, because it didn't happen that way." so why even post in this thread? Can you provide a reason other than "Because Christopher Nolan said no in the real world" as to why you wouldn't want to see a purely hypothetical movie that has Nolan's hypothetical take on The Riddler in it?

 

[GiantRaven]

Nolan's interpretation of The Riddler would've been too close to The Joker for him to be used in my opinion. No point retreading the same ground.

If I were to replace Bane at all I would have picked Penguin IMO. This is only because the Riddler is pretty...silly. Plus the only actor that works for him is Jim Carrey.

What? No! You can have a Riddler that isn't as stupid and over the top s Carrey's. In fact I'd definitely prefer it. I've never seen a Riddler like that in the comics. He's a schemer, not a hammish madman.

 

[shrekfan246]

You had nothing constructive to add except "Nope, because it didn't happen that way." so why even post in this thread? Can you provide a reason other than "Because Christopher Nolan said no in the real world" as to why you wouldn't want to see a purely hypothetical movie that has Nolan's hypothetical take on The Riddler in it?

Because peoples obsession with what they would have preferred is annoying and pointless. I don't even think The Riddler is a good character from Batman, not to say Bane is but the last two films have no been about Batman as detective but Batman as cypher for sudden change. The Riddler would be out of place and disjoined which is something all multi movie franchises suffer from at the best of times.

Is that enough justification for you oh so high standards? or did you just want to join in the circle jerk of "Wahh, i didn't like Bane, he talked funny, i couldn't understand" because there aren't enough of those threads here already.

I actually enjoyed the way Bane was portrayed in the film, thanks for using a logical fallacy to argue against me, though.

And yes, it is enough justification, because you actually gave more reasoning than "No. It wasn't that type of Batman film because Chistopher Nolan didn't want to do it."

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

It could work but I don't see him playing as the main villain of the movie. Maybe if he was on the sidelines like Scarecrow in Batman Begins or Two-Face in The Dark Knight then it could work

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Eh... not a huge fan of Riddler.

Now Clock King and Calendar Man, on the other hand...