Poll: Would we all be cool with a female Link?

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The Enquirer

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TheRiddler said:
Hear me out:

It's not the same Link in all of these games, rather, several incarnations of the Great Hero/Chosen One/whatever. Who's to say that the incarnation of Link in the next Zelda game couldn't be female this time? I mean, women [b/]can[/b] use the Triforce. We've seen Zelda do it all the time.

It wouldn't feel too cheap or gimmicky as a female Mario or Kratos, as there isn't anything particularly masculine about Link. He's not really a muscleman and the green tunic is more or less unisex. He was pretty much intended to be merely a blank character for the player to project onto, and really the only personality aspects I can think of to define him are pretty gender neutral: brave, intelligent and competent in situations of crisis.

I mean, I'm not really saying that Nintendo necessarily [i/]should[/i] do this. I'm just wondering if you all think it would work if they did.

Sidenote: Are there other characters to whom this would apply? Where gender/race/sexuality/etc are so insignificant that changing them would leave the overall character unscathed? Off the top of my head: Chell(Portal), Master Chief (Halo) and Kirby (well, Kirby).
The issue I have with this is that a central part of the Zelda games is that Link is a male character. I'd certainly be fine with there being another female in the game, a playable one, but I feel that just like with The Doctor from Doctor Who a central point of his character is being male.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the plot of all Legend of Zelda games basically "silent protagonist rescues significant other"?

I don't see why not.
 

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Coakle said:
On the contrary, Link is the Hero chosen by the Goddesses. He does not have any innate sacred power. A female Link wouldn't need items bestowed with the power of the Goddesses, since she would have the innate ability to directly tap into those sacred powers. At the most, Female Link would just have to learn how to use those powers. This would be a drastic change from the Hero?s relationship with the Sacred Realm.
That to me sounds like a female Link would be a better choice, as she could skip several of the dungeons and save the day faster :p
Haha, Female Link would be really OP.

Navi: "Link you need to restore power to the Master Sword!"
Link: 'holds hands on blade'
"Done!"
*victory jingle
 

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"Link" isn't a character. He's just some idiot running around in a man dress. While there have been Links with actual personalities - Wind Waker Link was a loveable oaf, Twighlight Princess Link was kind of a Mary Sue parody in a way, and the Spirit Tracks/Phantom Hourglass Link was humorously deadpan - it's a basic character mold; mute generic guy saves the day.

Would I mind a female link? No. Would I mind a female Link if she's like every one of her previous incarnations with few exceptions? Yes. And I would mind if the latter Link was male, too.

EDIT: So, people have said it'd ruin Link's image (what image?). So, why not introduce a female alternative, but not the same character. I mean, Nintendo don't even need to design her; all they need to do is type in "legend of zelda link rule 63", ask an artist for permission to use the character design, give them a slightly lampooned name. There you go; female alternative.
 

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teamcharlie said:
Let me try to phrase this delicately: no. No, Link can't be a lady, because Link is (as far as I'm currently aware) a non-transgender dude. The protagonist can be somebody else who IS a lady, but she wont be Link.
"Link" reffers to one of several characters. And if you don't count the time gaps when the games don't occur, probably thousands. Wind Waker Link and Zelda 1+2 Link are completely different characters. Oracles Link is completely different from The Hero of Time Link.

Anyone can be Link. Anyone. That's pretty much what a blank slate silent protagonist is meant for; to be easily changed to broaden audience appeal.
 

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"What if Zelda was a girl"
Sorry I didn't see anyone else do it.
OT: Couldn't see anything wrong with it, after all they're just the ancestors of the before links and much of their traits are copy paste.
Hmm, now that I think of it, maybe things could be a little wishy washy if they it was female Link and male Zelda. Not the roles or anything, just the names part. It might irk me to have to reason why someone would coincidentally gender-swap their child's name for no good reason. It's nit-picky but still, i'd like it for Zelda to be the heroine instead of Zelda's a guy just because.
 

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TheRiddler said:
Hear me out:

It's not the same Link in all of these games, rather, several incarnations of the Great Hero/Chosen One/whatever. Who's to say that the incarnation of Link in the next Zelda game couldn't be female this time? I mean, women [b/]can[/b] use the Triforce. We've seen Zelda do it all the time.

It wouldn't feel too cheap or gimmicky as a female Mario or Kratos, as there isn't anything particularly masculine about Link. He's not really a muscleman and the green tunic is more or less unisex. He was pretty much intended to be merely a blank character for the player to project onto, and really the only personality aspects I can think of to define him are pretty gender neutral: brave, intelligent and competent in situations of crisis.

I mean, I'm not really saying that Nintendo necessarily [i/]should[/i] do this. I'm just wondering if you all think it would work if they did.

Sidenote: Are there other characters to whom this would apply? Where gender/race/sexuality/etc are so insignificant that changing them would leave the overall character unscathed? Off the top of my head: Chell(Portal), Master Chief (Halo) and Kirby (well, Kirby).
My basic attitude is that Link refers to a specific character, who happens to be a guy. Changing his gender is a no-no since it simply won't be Link anymore, even if the concept is one of reincarnation and so on. Link comes with a specific image and expectation. It's sort of like why I complained about them making Heimdall black in the "Thor" movies, Marvel's Heimdall is a specific character who is not black, nothing more or less to it, changing things is nothing more than a PC stunt for the sake of performing one.

As I see things if you want a "female Link" then make a new game series with the same basic kind of gameplay and create a female character for it. Or perhaps actually just make a game with Zelda as the direct protagonist (or at least playable), much like Princess Peach wound up getting her own games.

In general if you like a specific kind of game but want a different kind of protagonist, make a new IP, if enough people agree with you, they will come to it on their own. Changing existing IPs radically does generate a lot of hype sadly, and can move units due to controversy, but generally does not wind up leaving behind much of positive value.

I can't find it right at the moment (though I'll probably run into it linked somewhere later when it's not important) but not too long ago I was reading some thing about "the dumbest hype changes in comics history" though that wasn't exactly the title. It was brought out in response to the re-launch of Ms. Marvel and people like Conan O'Brien getting yelled at for making fun of it. It featured such things as the so called "She-Punisher" which advertised itself as "because YOU demanded it" (with the big question of who this "you" they referred to actually was). Along with the somewhat snarky point that comics publishers are apparently getting dumber, both in terms of their general storylines, but also because at least in the past they had the brains to make it fairly clear it was only for a limited run or something they were doing briefly for the amusement value rather than a bona-fide attempt at a character reboot or intended permanent transfer of a mantle. In many cases the mantle never even really transferred, the claims were just based on a story technicality....

At any rate, I'm going off on massive tangents again... basically I'm all for another Zelda-type game with a new IP, but as far as actually making Link a girl, I see no point at all unless it's just to get attention. If an existing character doesn't do what you want, make a new one. The industry is too suck in it's own IPS and labels for it's own good as it is, and the last thing they need is more excuses to keep slapping the existing franchise names onto everything instead of actually creating something.
 

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dylanmc12 said:
teamcharlie said:
Let me try to phrase this delicately: no. No, Link can't be a lady, because Link is (as far as I'm currently aware) a non-transgender dude. The protagonist can be somebody else who IS a lady, but she wont be Link.
"Link" reffers to one of several characters. And if you don't count the time gaps when the games don't occur, probably thousands. Wind Waker Link and Zelda 1+2 Link are completely different characters. Oracles Link is completely different from The Hero of Time Link.

Anyone can be Link. Anyone. That's pretty much what a blank slate silent protagonist is meant for; to be easily changed to broaden audience appeal.
Right. Let me see if I can set the scene for you as far as why I'm having a problem: "There have been thousands of male incarnations before, but you, Diane, are now the 'Jeff' of legend! All the powers of the Jeffs of old have been transferred into your lady body. Go now, with your vagina and boobs, and rescue the princess, oh mighty Jeff!" Not that I'm saying Diane can't save a princess or even get a kiss or some nookie for her trouble, mind you.

It's that Link is a name. A man name. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to give the protagonist a different name if she's a lady, and I'm not in the business of caring how well Zelda games sell (see, Link isn't even necessarily in the title!).
 

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Inverting the genders would be kind of awesome, actually

Go full on Adventure Time with it.
 

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I wouldn't mind, but I also don't really see the point either.
If the character's gender isn't essential or important to the story, then it's a fairly arbitrary decision (demographic pandering aside, but that's a factor external to the game).
 

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teamcharlie said:
It's that Link is a name. A man name. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to give the protagonist a different name if she's a lady, and I'm not in the business of caring how well Zelda games sell (see, Link isn't even necessarily in the title!).
I'm genuinely curious.

How is Link a man name? It seems pretty gender neutral to me.
 

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LostGryphon said:
teamcharlie said:
It's that Link is a name. A man name. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to give the protagonist a different name if she's a lady, and I'm not in the business of caring how well Zelda games sell (see, Link isn't even necessarily in the title!).
I'm genuinely curious.

How is Link a man name? It seems pretty gender neutral to me.
http://www.babynames.com/name/LINK

It's apparently short for 'Lincoln' and is a traditional boy's name. Why is Jeff/Jeffrey a boy's name? I dunno. But that's how we use it.
 

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Phantom Kat said:
Couldn't be worse than changing him to be right-handed.

Though it seems somewhat stupid to change Link's gender when the series already has a female character that could fill the roll. Make Zelda go on an adventure and kill chickens and break pots 'n' stuff.
Can't kill the chickens. The chickens will kill you.

OT: I wouldn't care so long as they don't make the gender a focus in the game.
 

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I would be interested in seeing a female Link, but I don't think it would work, and for everyone saying that they should make a game about Zelda, I would be all for a game in which you alternate between Link and Zelda/Sheik, but if the game is exclusively about Zelda, then people may wonder what Link is even needed for.

A Zelda game in which everyone is gender-swapped wouldn't work either, since, if I'm not mistaken and I bloody well could be, that Ganondorf HAS to be male, in every incarnation.

I'd much rather get the Majora's Mask 3D that many people have been clamoring for, and a Metroid game that goes into Samus' character without being shit, and while I'm making my wish-list, I'd like to have another Star Fox game, like the original and the N64. Oh, and Merry Christmas, everyone. :)
 

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teamcharlie said:
http://www.babynames.com/name/LINK

It's apparently short for 'Lincoln' and is a traditional boy's name. Why is Jeff/Jeffrey a boy's name? I dunno. But that's how we use it.
Interesting.

Though I disagree with the assumption that it's meant to be short for "Lincoln" in this context and isn't simply the word "Link" which is an obvious inference to the "link" between time/universes/etc that the game's underlying narrative is based on.

That meaning is gender neutral to me, which is why I was confused on the matter. >.>
 

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I don't really care if link is a female, but i really rather had Zelda play an important playable character than just swap Link gender
 

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I said no because I'd rather an original female character. By the looks of it I think all heroic Links in that family are clones of each other. Except maybe for the cel shaded ones. They have a bit of Auntie Sally in them.
 

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Yes, I'd be cool with a female Link. Link does reincarnate and is a different person each time (except for the games that follow on from one another and star the same Link) so it would be interesting if they experimented with that reincarnation aspect.

I'm not sure much gameplay wise would change with Link being female. Story-wise perhaps a little and some character interactions would work out differently but a female hylian Link would likely work similarly to a male Link. I guess I can see what people mean by it being a mere 'change for the sake of change', as not much changes as a result of it, I just think it would be interesting to have happen.
 

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I'm not okay with a female Link.

If all you change about Link is gender, but everything else stays the same, then what was the point? I think it would feel really weird. You'd need to change more than Link's gender for me to be okay with this.

Note: I'm not saying that we should go putting stereotypically female characteristics on a female Link, just that there needs to be more of a difference between the two.