Poll: Would we all be cool with a female Link?

Kyrinn

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It could work, if we're talking about a Zelda game where the hero is a female descendant and has a somewhat original character design. In that case it's "Female Link" only in the sense that the hero is now female.
If we're just talking about a gender swapped Link then no. All that would happen in that case would creating the exact same character and going "But wait, it's female now! We are so progressive!" It would be like making a female Mario when you could have just made a new character. I don't see the point.

Basically I'd rather see a new female character or an already established female character as the PC in a Zelda game rather than Female Link.
 

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To use the popular internet vernacular... FemLink is best Link:


Since there are tons of Links throughout the timeline, I see nothing wrong with one occasionally popping out female. Despite the... feminine divinity... of Zelda. Surely not every female in their world is a potential Hylian Pope. Each canonical Link starts as a simple village boy, who says there can't be a Link who starts as a village girl?

Rednog said:
And yes they would need to justify it because you're actually wrong about anyone dressing in a green Tunic being called Link. In windwaker they dress all the boys at a certain age in a green tunic as a custom from the Hero of Time legend. And this legend was created from the male Link in Ocarina of Time. Also, it isn't a new Link every time. Link from Ocarina of time had his timelines split into 3 parts and that character actually went on into other games. So yes him suddenly becoming female would need a bit of justification.
Easy enough, it's a trope as old as medieval fantasy. Girl Link is disinterested in traditional girly things (being the destined Legendary Hero and all), rebels and disguises herself as a boy in the green tunic whenever she can get away with it. There's usually an equality lesson in there somewhere. Boy Link is pretty androgynous as-is. It could fit just fine.
 

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Maximum Bert said:
I dont have a major issue with it but I dont think it would be a good change as Link is an established character now regardless of whether you see him as one character or a lot of different characters he is very definitely male and suddenly changing that would be very strange without a very very good reason.
Link is most certainly multiple different characters. There's even a timeline confirmed by Nintendo that confirms it. As well as that, there's very strong hinting that the Link from OoT and MM appears in Twilight Princess as, essentially, a stalfos, guiding the newest bearer of the Triforce of Courage in his role of defeating Ganondorf.
Oh I know he is officially but unless your a fan of the series you are not going to know that and essentially although he is technically different he dosent really act any different he never speaks collects pretty much the same stuff and does overall the same stuff in every iteration. I know some may not like say the wind waker link because of visuals but personality and character wise there is little to differentiate them if Nintendo didnt confirm the timeline there would be no way of accurately saying whether its the same Link or a different one and lets be honest this was obviously decided much later on. They were just making games with a character called Link for a bit, is he the same or different? (yes technically its usually a different Link lorewise) it dosent matter really story has never been a legend of zelda strongpoint imo (and yes I am speculating they came up with the timeline stuff later but I think its a fair assumption seeing as how it took them so long to come out with it)

I still stand by what I said though in that while it wouldnt make any difference to the gameplay and so dosent matter its also a pretty useless change so why do it? why suddenly change a series staple like that for no gain? is the next Zelda game set in world rule 63? (ah if only if rule 64 was 63 then they could have cleverly made the N64 Link female).

I would also still like to see Zelda cast as the main character again instead of just a female Link you said this would change up the game much more than just making Link female (seems you edited your post) which I agree on and thats why I think it would be a good idea it would be a fresh take on the series shine light on a character who is very underutilized and yet still retain strong ties and relevance to the series they could even mark it as a type of spinoff game if they wanted.

I also think a lot more people would be cooler with a Zelda game featuring Zelda in a major capacity than Link suddenly changing sex and I still think most identify with him as Link not a Link as it were even if they know that is the case.
 

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SO it's basically a change because of "muh female!" and no other reason.

No, just no.
Make a new game with a chose female hero. Link is Link and should stay Link. This shit starting to be really annoying.
If you want more female character in gaming that make more fucking female character in gaming. Don't change existing one.
 

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I'd be down with Link as a girl, but I'd rather just play as Zelda. All throughout Skyward Sword I was wondering what was going on with her more than Link.
 

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It's not something I would actively fight for, because ultimately I don't think it matters. But I wouldn't be against it. It would have to be set in a different timeline than the Wind Waker game though as the tunic is then a commemoration of the Hero Of Time and is passed on to boys. But who knows, maybe a parent with only a daughter passes it on to her, perhaps she goes against the norm and puts it on anyway.

My only potential gripe would be if they made a big deal out of it. As long as she plays out like a normal character and doesn't exist to promote or perpetuate political correctness or smash our heads in with "Girls can too!" it would work. In fact, it would work even better as a promotion for gender fairness if they put her in and act like it's no biggie.

Also, it would give a nice twist to the Link-Zelda interaction, as there's always a not-so-subtle "damsel in distress" romance going on in every game.

So yeah. If the developers want to, it could be interesting.
 

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considering that all Links are not the same person and most of them have no personality anyway, I have no issue with this, though, the back lash from the more narrow minded fans would be rather epic. So a game where Zelda is the play character would probably be a better idea in the long run

like say, a generation where there is no 'hero' for some reason and Zelda must be the bearer of the Triforces of Wisdom and Courage
 

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Personally, I think that for the sake of consistency, Link should be male in all incarnations. That said, I have no issue with the roles being switched up; who's to say that Zelda can't take the centre stage, and Link get to be the damsel in the tower for once?
 

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Rednog said:
And yes they would need to justify it because you're actually wrong about anyone dressing in a green Tunic being called Link. In windwaker they dress all the boys at a certain age in a green tunic as a custom from the Hero of Time legend. And this legend was created from the male Link in Ocarina of Time. Also, it isn't a new Link every time. Link from Ocarina of time had his timelines split into 3 parts and that character actually went on into other games. So yes him suddenly becoming female would need a bit of justification.
Sorry, but that doesn't hold up. Link isn't an immortal. Several of the games are hundreds of years apart. In one of the later time-line games, it is stated that the bloodline of the Hero is wearing thin, so obviously every Hero is a descendant from that bloodline, either directly or indirectly to the previous Link. What do they do then if the only one in the bloodline during Ganon's next invasion is a girl. Do they throw their arms in the air and go "Nope, can't do this time, we need a hero with a penis for this!"

And given the Wind Waker time-line where any prick can put on a suit, what more justification is needed than a girl saying 'fuck it' and goes against the whole norm. You know, just like how current events in real life are going towards.

It's also not impossible to make Link female appearance-wise, just takes a fair bit of trying. A few innocent appearance changes and the dialog clearly addressing her as a female will do the trick.

(I love that the captcha is 'politically correct'.)
 

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Hell no. Just make a new character or use Zelda. Why do people keep bringing this up? You cool with Hollywood "white-washing" a cast? No? Then why be cool with "Vag-washing" one? It doesn't make Link more interesting just because now he has something else under his little skirt. The idea brings nothing to table for the series. I seriously cant wrap my head around why this is pushed on so much other than an internet personality once said they thought it would be a good idea. Plus, the whole sexism in gaming thing. I have yet to see 1 good reason why this should even be wanted.

It feels cheap and gimmicky because Link is a well established character every bit as much as Mario and even more than Kratos. The only reason to do it is to try to be "edgy" with the whole female protagonist thing going on. However, it isn't edgy because you are piggybacking on Link's previous success. What would be "edgy" is making a new well written female character and actually trying to buck the trend with something fresh and unique.

Today I learned that female protagonists are "edgy."
Good to know.



On topic. I don't think I'd have a problem with it. Since Link, as a character is essentially a new person in each major incarnation of the game I see no reason why a female link would be a problem. Link specifically doesn't really come ingrained with an established personality so there's nothing about him that wouldn't work with a bit of a gender swap.

Yeah, I'd rather see a new IP rather than just shuffling the cards in the same deck but that's an entirely different argument.
 

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Dragonbums said:
The only people who would have problems with it are adult babies.
I don't see why the concept would not work. In all the games descriptors of Link, he is described as a hero in green garb. Sex, race, bodyshape, etc. never played a factor in that.
Hell Link could be a Goron and it could work.

All I care about is that the game is good.
This idea was actually done before at least once. (Female Link, not the Zelda game where you play Zelda)

Though, it wasn't "official".

A dad made a mod for a Zelda game where he just changed a lot of the "he"s to "she"s and what not.
And, BAM! Link's a girl.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-09-man-mods-wind-wakers-pronouns-to-make-link-a-female-role-model

Guy did it all so his daughter could play a game as a girl.

So as for a reason for why Nintendo should do this? It would be nice of them to throw their female fans a bone.
Plus, for a game as big as Zelda, it wouldn't be hard, or that much of a risk.

That said, a game about Zelda does sound cool too.

Not just as Sheik. It would be neat to see how Nintendo would make a game for Zelda, seeing as she uses a lot of magic.

What could be cooler than playing as a elf using magic, who can also kick ass as a ninja?!
Yeah, Nintendo probably would have no problems executing any of those ideas.
Honestly, I'm not worried about Nintendo doing it.
I think I even saw an article on the Destructoid that said Miyamoto wouldn't mind doing this very thing if enough people demanded it.
I'm worried about the fan backlash.

Link's only constant descriptor like I said was a hero in green garb. Nothing else.

Yet you have people insisting that Link being white and male is part of that canon as well therefore Link can't be a girl. Which is total bull.

If anything, Nintendo would be accused of political correctness, instead of praised for their huge freedom of creative wiggle room that the series is known for.
 

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I was one of those kids that thought Link WAS Zelda. Though even now as a fan, I don't mind having a female Link (or equal). Link is a reincarnated hero in green (often Hylian), bearer of the triforce of courage, brought in by destiny to save Hyrule in various ages to vanquish the (also reincarnating) evil. I don't think they've ever established Link HAS to be male (only their lineages). Though the only downside is that swapping the gender would be more of a gimmick (due to lack of a better word) that won't really mean anything other than "reasons". Not opposing the idea, but the game would need to bring more to the table than that and maybe make the swap mean something.

But as many have said, I would rather a (non-shitty) Zelda-focused Zelda game. Considering Zelda has changed more over the years than Link has, there's a lot of potential to be had (and they don't need to adhere to the formula too much because we don't have any useful point of reference with Zelda as a playable character). Though definitely the biggest potential is with someone like Sheik. Perhaps an "inbetweenquel" for OOT would be a bit much (as it's largely Link's story and we know how it ends), but maybe something after OOT alongside Majora's Mask with it's own story. Even if we don't have Sheik, then maybe something equal to a Sheik-like character where she assists Link in a new game in the timeline, or has to do her part to save the kingdom, or save Link too if you want to go all reverse-roles. Sheik (or similar) has a lot of potential in the magic, combat, and platforming department. Hell, maybe we can actually JUMP for once. You shake up the formula, give justice to a beloved (yet mostly unused) character, and possibly expand the lore in a new angle.
 

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Or we could have Zelda as the star. Do a complete role reversal with Zelda as the mage-heroine and link as the sword-prince. =/ Don't see why Link has to have a different gender when it'd be much easier and less rage-inducing to just swap the roles. Zelda needs more screen-time anyway.
 

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I'd find it to be more interesting, and a bigger departure from series standard conventions, if we played as Zelda herself. She'd have different motives, and a very different gameplay style compared to Link, due to her having the Triforce of Wisdom and in general being smarter, and more methodical, than Link. Hell, her job, as royalty in Hyrule, would be focused on keeping the peace, and if that's going tits-up she'd have reasonable motivation to go on a big quest like you'd usually see. Gameplay could take more interesting turns, with some diplomacy being reason for sidequests and a greater focus on stealth and intel gathering in the dungeons being a good turn for the gameplay. Mind you, she'd still be quite capable in defending herself, but she's not the brute that Link is, who, as she puts it in Wind Waker, "charges in, without worrying about consequences". Her tools would be different, her motives would be different, and the story would have a very different focus, which is what the series needs. It would be a breath of fresh air, rather than a simple, cheap reskinning. It'd keep the purists happy, give the feminists something to be pleased with (Strong, smart female character W00t!), and it'd give the gameplay some fresh twists to keep it from getting stale.
 

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Why not? Though I do hope that they avoid falling into the pit of making a game the exact same as the previous ones with two mounds on Link's chest and longer hair. That's not good writing. Just have people react differently to her, not everyone and in many cases just in subtle ways. Lee was black in the Walking Dead and it didn't define him, but it was still part of who he was (In case you've forgotten, he's urban). So yeah, if they handled it well, I'd be ok with it.
 

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Link is an established character so no, I do not want a female Link. Go ahead and make Zelda the Hero of Time and that would be flippin sweet.