Poll: Would you be comfortable killing your country's military in a game?

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WanderingFool

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Professor James said:
I realized today that the only game that I think you can kill American soldiers in(outside of multiplayer) is Prototype, Grand Theft Auto V, and Saints Row the Third. I personally didn't feel bad and only fully realized what I did until later. At this point, the only people you can't kill is children(except in some old games like Fallout 2) so it isn't really surprising, but I wonder how a veteran would feel.
Ive played all three of those games, and havent shed a tear... Course, than again, that isnt the "real" US military. Prototype would be the closest, and they're there for only part of the game, theh you start killing Black Watch (i.e. actual "baby killers"). GTAV and SR3rd, you're killing a basically satirical and cartoonish version.
 

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The australian military is pretty good, holds its weight against bigger enemies.

I would be worried about our SAS guys though: They've been in every war in the last 20 years, and yet have barely been in the news.
Not killed, not captured, not fingered as the culprit.
They are very, very good at what they do.

Would not want to go against them..
 

BoogieManFL

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It's a game so no, not really. In a way I'd prefer not, but it won't stop me from properly playing and enjoying a game.

I've played many a WW2 themed game and not always from the perspective of the allies, for example.
 

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Thorn14 said:
We've killed how many American Cops in the history of gaming? I fail to see how that would be any different.

Also I'd love a game that takes place in WWII but as an Axis Soldier. Not a Nazi persay, but just your average German Soldier.

Of course that would cause a shitstorm of gigantic proportion though. Sigh.
From what I've heard, your average German soldier in WW2 was NOT a Nazi. Just a man that had to fight for his county and couldn't say no even if he wanted to. But I see what you mean.
 

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BoogieManFL said:
Thorn14 said:
We've killed how many American Cops in the history of gaming? I fail to see how that would be any different.

Also I'd love a game that takes place in WWII but as an Axis Soldier. Not a Nazi persay, but just your average German Soldier.

Of course that would cause a shitstorm of gigantic proportion though. Sigh.
From what I've heard, your average German soldier in WW2 was NOT a Nazi. Just a man that had to fight for his county and couldn't say no even if he wanted to. But I see what you mean.
You guys know that this is something that a lot of people wanted since the first Call of Duty, right? The cool thing about the first and second CoDs is how you played as an american, a british and a russian soldier, there were three campaigns, with different feels and they were really good, one thing that i never forget is how the russian one was the most emotional, the ending was so good.

Anyway, since that time people want a game were you play a german soldier, not some nazi crazy SS dude, but just a normal guy that is fighting for his country in the Heer, that would be nice, to get the loser's POV.

OT: It would make for a very boring game fighting the Brazilian army, i mean we're not trained to you know, hold the line, or fight like most standing armies. The army here is trained in Guerrilla warfare and unconventional tactics, so in a shooter it would be pretty boring to be walking and getting shot at by guys you can't even see. But i woudn't have a problem shooting at them, it's just pixels in the end.
 

Xan Krieger

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Since I'm always on the right side no I wouldn't have a problem fighting bad people wherever they're from.
 

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Dude... USA citizens have been killing USA citizens virtually ever since GTA.

Its worse to kill an unarmed citizen, than a soldier that at least knows how to defend himself irl. Don't get me wrong both are wrong irl if you ask me.

But virtually everything is fair imho, since its virtual, not real. So who cares. You don't like it don't buy it.
Kinda like the debate the game "Hatred" raised up again (since this isn't the first game of its kind). Postal was there first.
 

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Well, because the States won the cold war and produces the majority of the popular media we consume, I come across being forced to kill quite a lot of russian soldiers in games.

I quess it's understandible, just as I said on some other thread, I don't like how we are becomming the gaming equivelent of goombas. Especially now, when I'm planning to join the military.
 

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Evonisia said:
I'm all for killing British people. Just don't do what Killzone did and portray us like Nazis for some fucking reason (no, I don't care that it's set on a different world).
*English

And its only because, and lets be honest, its easy to make the English accent sound evil. As a welsh man i dont have that issue, the welsh accent is the friendliest and least threatening accent in existence.
 

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It would be a dealbreaker for me. There are exceptions like if it's only in one small portion of the game and it's optional.
The closest case I can think of was when Sam Fisher was ordered to kill a Shin-Bet (Israel's equivalent of the FBI) agent in Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow. Since it was possible to ignore the order and still complete the mission I was able look past that.
 

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Don't care, because I am the GOOD GUY!!!! The Hero of my story!!! It is my mission to clean the This World from the corruption my own people, my own country have and when I will be the last one kill myself in the progress.
HATRED!!! HATRED!!!!
Oh wait. Isn't this already a game?
 

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Would i be happy fictionally killing fiction with fictional weapons? Ohhhh, thats too close to the bone for me, i wouldn't be able to handle it :p
 

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sageoftruth said:
That alone wouldn't be enough. I'm more put off by killing humanized characters. Slapping a US army suit on a guy doesn't make him relatable to me. Giving him character does. Making them come across as helpless or innocent also does the trick. Even if he was shooting at me moments ago, it wouldn't sit right with me to kill someone who was begging for his life.
It wouldn't sit right with me to allow someone the chance to beg for their life after moments ago shooting at me, i'd execute them instantly.
 

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CannibalCorpses said:
sageoftruth said:
That alone wouldn't be enough. I'm more put off by killing humanized characters. Slapping a US army suit on a guy doesn't make him relatable to me. Giving him character does. Making them come across as helpless or innocent also does the trick. Even if he was shooting at me moments ago, it wouldn't sit right with me to kill someone who was begging for his life.
It wouldn't sit right with me to allow someone the chance to beg for their life after moments ago shooting at me, i'd execute them instantly.
True. I too would likely do the same if someone were firing at me in-game. Basically, I'm saying that if he were to get the opportunity to suddenly lose his will to fight and started to plead for his life, then it would add an element of humanity to him that would make executing him feel less satisfying. Before then, he'd just be a target to shoot.
 

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Interestingly, there was an old NES/Arcade game called Guerrilla War, which is a top down shooter where you play Che Guevara/Fidel Castro liberating Cuba from the evil....US Army and Batista. Except the game doesn't use any names so you kind of have to work it out on your own from the fact the two main characters look like their historical counterparts, the island you are invading looks very much like Cuba and some of the enemy vehicles have US symbols on them(not American flag per se).
 

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Well I've played assassin's creed 3, so I have killed my countries military... I dunno, I would feel weird about it but it wouldn't put me off buying a game.
 

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My only requirement would be, that if I had to fight Diggers in a game, is that the main boss is sufficiently charismatic. If the game is meant to be comedic, I expect nothing less than a Brian Blessed-esque Aussie general throwing boomerangs and yelling "'Straya, ****" (pardon my bad English). A dramatic telling will need someone like Gen. Shepherd or Knight Commander Meredith: a villain I can simultaneously understand and respect, but still feel motivated to stop them because what they are doing is genuinely wrong.