We sure do, many of them came out of the two world wars because the winners decided what the losers were doing was not up to snuff.ravensheart18 said:orangecharger said:HG131 said:They couldn't do anything about it. They were fools, and have changed. One exception. If the words or phrase "I was just following orders." come out of their mouth, I'm turning them in. To quote The 9th Doctor: "And with that sentence, you just lost the right to even talk to me."So let's just see. They who win get to decide what a War Crime is.ravensheart18 said:We have international law and international treaties for that.
Got anyone from team good guys that's ever been found guilty of a war crime? How about the POWs in Gitmo and their ritualistic torture? I believe that's one of those things those treaties you speak of protect people from. I believe Commander In Chief is considered an officer right? So sanctioning that activity would fall at their feet? Do you honestly believe the reason no one has been found guilty is because there haven't been any crimes on the team good guys side? Or is it as I said, the offended (not offending) countries don't have the strength or desire to continue to pursue "war criminals" from more powerful countries.ravensheart18 said:Yes. Anyone who is guilty of a war crime should be charged and prosecuted.
If given a choice of your own life against a stranger's -- if we had the proverbial gun to our heads and all we had to do was have some stranger killed not even by our own hand (just give the order) -- how many of us would truly be martyrs?
As if the officer gets any more choice than the soldier. The only guy with the choice is the guy at the top. Everyone else it's fall in line or join the prisoners. Did anyone dare defy Hitler or his top officers?ravensheart18 said:Then you need to understand that there may be consequences for your actions. But once again, in this example we are dealing with an OFFICER in a DEATH CAMP. This isn't your average soldier who was unaware or just did nothing.
War Crime is an oxymoron -- War is not civilized. War can not be held to the ideals of times when we are not at war.
Except those who we feel don't deserve the rights of those standards. Torture is abhorrent unless WE need to do it to get important information. As I indicated -- rules only need to followed by countries weak enough to have them forced on them by stronger military forces.ravensheart18 said:No, but we still have standards for war. Having those standards benefits us all.