Poll: Would you hook up with/date a trans person?

[SadisticFire]

Absolutely! As long as if they're into making me into a pet. But I'm super biased, partially because of my kinks, partially because I'm a bisexual. I adore blurred lines, so even if it's kind of.. wrong to be fetishizing them, it's just something that influences my decision, and I'd be honestly more likely to date and hook up with them than a non trans to be completely honest. It feels.. odd, to say, because that is discrimination, but it's just the truth. I'm not about to kick up drama if my datee and I are happy.
I wonder if I'm just a pansexual though. I don't know what is, I just like it all, except for the extreme scales of masculinity and femininity.

 

[Metailurus]

Wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. To me it would be the same thing as being gay, which I'm not.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

Yes, and people are born with a fixed gender identity.

And your point is...? One cannot choose to change their lineage, one can choose to change their gender.

Some people consider changing one's complexion of being a way of changing one's race, just the same way some people think that a post-transition trans person is still the gender they were prior to transition. Its wrong in both counts.

Make-up washes off and tan skin eventually reverts to its previous color, a surgically created vagina and/or breasts do not (or a surgically created penis and scrotum and mastectomy). Some people believe that, since no amount of surgery or hormones changes the Y chromosome to an X (or the second X chromosome to a Y) that a transgender person is still 'the same gender' as they were prior. If you're going to claim people's personal opinions are wrong then I have nothing more to add.

No, but her being cisgender does not exclude her from being infertile. There are more infertile cisgender people than there are all of transgender people, so assuming that somebody is fertile because they're cisgender is both fallacious and significantly more likely. CDC says that 11% of women age 15-44 have fertility difficulties. [http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/infertility.htm] The estimate for the population of transgender people runs from .3% of the population to 2% of the population. So you're anywhere from five to thirty three times more likely to encounter a cisgender women who is infertile than a transgender woman. 7% of men experience infertility, [http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/1/56] so a person is three to twenty one times more likely to encounter an infertile cisgender man on a date than a transgender man. Last I checked, most people don't ask their date if they're fertile or not the first time they go out with each other.

False equivalence. If 11% of women 15-44 have fertility issues, that means 89% do not. In other words, not having fertility issues is the statistical norm for a cisgender woman (or man). On the other hand, 100% of MtF transpeople have fertility issues, as in they can't bear children. Actually, you really can't even consider it a 'fertility issue', because they were never capable of producing children and it wasn't due to any sort of medical issue. Likewise, I never said anything about an appropriate time to ask someone this question (ie. 'the first date').

Again, how does this effect trans people? Yes, its difficult, but if somebody is so invested in the idea that a certain trait is such a deal-breaker, then it would be imperative to find out this information, no? Gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette, right?

Again, I never said anything about the effect it has on anyone, I simply pointed out that I think the idea that you can ask someone if they were born a different gender and think they're going to be 'perfectly okay' with this question is false (for the most part).

 

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Make-up washes off and tan skin eventually reverts to its previous color, a surgically created vagina and/or breasts do not (or a surgically created penis and scrotum and mastectomy). Some people believe that, since no amount of surgery or hormones changes the Y chromosome to an X (or the second X chromosome to a Y) that a transgender person is still 'the same gender' as they were prior. If you're going to claim people's personal opinions are wrong then I have nothing more to add.

Technically not accurate ... Plenty of XX people diagnosed 'male' at birth. Myself included. Well, I have 3 sex chromosomes. It's called 'being human' ... pretending everything fits together into two neat boxes at birth because of genetics is a flawed, scientifically disproven concept. Not to mention the whole host of social and ethical problems caused by just treating people as a genetic code, not to mention the idiocy of it given that it's one of a multiplicity of reasons for why the self emerges.

(Edit You want to know what's also funny? People like me represent the most common atypical chromosomal condition in the world. So ... you know ...

If personal opinions shouldn't fall into the metrics of analyzing the right of another's sense of self; then why is it bad to admonish those that labour under badly conceived ideals of gender expression? The way I see it, if someone were to promote the message that you did, and promote it as justification to deny another's sense of self and right to their expression, I personally see it as akin to people who claim God for their reasons to oppose things like equality for LGBTIQ people.

You know ... no basis in science, not conducive to the right of expression, typically based on subjective prejudices. Anti-trans rhetoric certainly sounds like a religion to me. If there's no foundation to use religion to dictate the lives and meaning of others, why should it be entertained as anything but counter-intuitive to modern civilization and principles of liberty?

 

[Rahkshi500]

If I knew one well enough that I enjoy their company a lot then yeah, I wouldn't minding dating them.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Nope. I like women, as in biological women. As in vaginas and the lot. You hear all the stories about straight guys getting all pissed off when they've hooked up with a girl that actually turned out to be a guy. That's my biggest issue with this whole debate. Trans seem to think it's completely fine to be deceptive like that? (Yes it is deception, no matter what way you wish to spin it)

Pretty much this. Couldnt have said it better myself......which is why i used your quote.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

If they're well on the way to becoming a physical female, enough to pass as female, and they're "my type"? Sure. If she's transitioned into becoming a girl, why the hell should I NOT treat her like a girl? I'm not going to have sex with her until she's fully transitioned and recovered though. That's...something I'm not open enough for. At least not yet anyway.

But yeah, the fact they used to be a guy isn't going to throw me off them completely. I'd be a bit startled at first, but get over it pretty quick. In fact, there's a trans girl in my tabletop gaming group and I've always seen her as female. She's definitely not someone I like in "that way", but if she was I'd definitely consider asking her out.

 

[TheSlothOverlord]

I would certainly date a trans (both pre-op and post-op) person if I liked them.

If you mean "hook up" as in casual sex, then no, because I'm not interested in that in general.

Nope. Maybe that makes me a bad person and a hypocrite considering how I feel they should be treated equally but I just don't want to for some reason.

It doesn't make you bad at all, I see it as a sort of in between. I've been attracted to thousands of women, a few trans girls, and about 1-2 guys. I am not fully straight, someone who likes a trans person sexually probably isn't fully straight, maybe with exception if they're post op. There's nothing wrong with not being attracted to them. But I never liked anything other then female born females 6 months ago, so keep an open mind things can change.

I feel (almost) the same way. If sexual orientation was a scale from 0 (totally gay) to 10 (totally straight) I'd probably put myself around 8,5-9. Which means that I do think that dongs have their charm, but for some reason I can't imagine myself in a relationship with a man.

Oh, found another without a poll and a comment of yours. Go figure!

I miss Zachary. They were a good person to have around, virulently pursuant with the point and never getting distracted by red herrings.

I actually "met" him on youtube the other day.

And as for a trans person not telling me they're trans... I live in a country where merely mentioning the fact that gay people deserve to have at least unions (not even marriage) is enough to get people flailing their arms and shouting "RABBLE RABLLE HOMOPROPAGANDA RABBLE RABBLE". Needless to say trans people are even less welcome here... So I certainly wouldn't hold it against somebody to keep it a secret.

 

[VanQ]

My dad once slurred some advice to me.

"If it's pretty, fuck it. There is no gay."

I live my life by those words. So there's your answer.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Myself, no hook up/dating (mainly because I'm married ) with a trans person, but also because it's just not how I roll. I'd like to think though, in an alternate reality where I was single that I would at least take the reveal with a bit of grace and defuse the situation with some dignity because shit like that would be awkward for all involved.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

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Make-up washes off and tan skin eventually reverts to its previous color, a surgically created vagina and/or breasts do not (or a surgically created penis and scrotum and mastectomy). Some people believe that, since no amount of surgery or hormones changes the Y chromosome to an X (or the second X chromosome to a Y) that a transgender person is still 'the same gender' as they were prior. If you're going to claim people's personal opinions are wrong then I have nothing more to add.

Yeah here's another one. I have "XX Male Syndrome" which means I have two X chromosomes, though one did get a Y attached during mitosis. That's besides the point. Genetically I'm female, despite that I was born as a male with absolutely no primary female characteristics. Meaning I've got no uterus, ovaries, vagina, or any other primary physical female anatomy. Strangely enough, most with XX male syndrome never know they have it, are not transgender, or an any way different from a typical male. So leaning on the purely genetics argument doesn't work. Especially because there are plenty of normal women with XY chromosomal setups, and numerous others with sex linked chromosomal variants, who are typical examples of their birth sex.

 

[Creator002]

I don't know. I'd like the chance to find out.
I think that, as long as they told me before we dated/hooked up, I'd be OK with it.

 

[flying_whimsy]

It might even be better since I imagine I'd have more in common with a man-turned-woman than a woman-woman.

I don't know why, but this line made me giggle like crazy.

OT: I'm not actually sure, to be honest. It's never come up in real life, so I can't say. I will say that if I did they'd have to be post op as I think boy parts are gross and ugly. I don't even like looking down in the shower.

captcha: "banana stand" ...I think it's making fun of me.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

If they were physically female and appeared feminine but identified as a man, sure. Not with the men identifying as women ones, though.


Reason being, I'm inherently repelled sexually by the notion of the male body, while the actual male mind is a neutral thing. I know females who identify as males but are not going through sex reassignment surgery and I get along find with them, I wouldn't mind having sex with someone like that were they to be, I guess, bisexual or something (since if it's a woman that feels like a man they'd have to also be bi to wanna sleep with me lol).

Dudes going through it the other way though, no thanks, it's just repulsive to me for some reason.

 

[Gorrath]

It might even be better since I imagine I'd have more in common with a man-turned-woman than a woman-woman.

I don't know why, but this line made me giggle like crazy.

OT: I'm not actually sure, to be honest. It's never come up in real life, so I can't say. I will say that if I did they'd have to be post op as I think boy parts are gross and ugly. I don't even like looking down in the shower.

captcha: "banana stand" ...I think it's making fun of me.

Funny thing is, I rather like my junk and yet I've no urge to look at anyone else's. Which also gets a bit odd but that doesn't even remain true with porn. Seeing a guy's junk in porn is fine by me but seeing a dude's junk in a public shower holds no interest at all. It's amazing what a little context can do! I know my response is totally out of left field here, just found your statement interesting because it so differs from my own.

 

[Mikeybb]

Well, assuming the hypothetical person has sufficiently low expectations to be happy being stuck with me...

I honestly don't know.

I haven't met and fell for a person who happens to be Trans, nor can I say resolutely that I would be unfazed by a sexual encounter/relationship with someone who was.

That is to say, I'm not closed off to the possibility, just not willing to say 'yes' outright when not having experienced the reality of it.

Hence, I've not picked an answer in the poll.

 

[Dragonclaw]

I'm not much of the "hook up" type, but as long as there was compatibility and genuine attraction I wouldn't mind. Hey. I've seen some transexuals that even up close you'd have no idea were women...but I've also seen some that look like Danny DeVito in a wig and call me shallow, but I'm not into the overall male physique, so she'd have to look passable for me to consider it.

 

[SonicMTD]

I don't really let gender get in the way of how I feel. I am predominantly heterosexual (since I've never tried anything else) that being said, if I found someone who shared a mutual attraction I would be willing to go on a date and maybe take it from there.