Poll: Would you resolve your origin?

[Carne]

I think the idea is that you wouldn't exist and because of that you would be immortal. You guys are too focused on how you came to be but the idea is more like, by causing yourself not to exist in the first place you exist as an entity outside of time. Paradox is averted by the fact that you never truly began and as such it is possible for you to murder someone who is/isn't actually related to you. Thus the term "resolve your origin."

Honestly going by the idea that immortality sucks. I would say no, even if my mom totally did deserve it.

 

[A Weary Exile]

That doesn't really make sense but HELL YEAH!

 

[LooK iTz Jinjo]

Wouldn't that mean I cease to exist rather than making me immortal? On the basis of what you are saying however yes, providing I am assured that I will continue to live.

 

[traceur_]

The fuck? No.

 

[Threesan]

Surely you could prevent your birth by doing something more subtle than murder. Might I suggest giving a flower to one of your parents on the day you are conceived (before the act)? Let chaos theory take care of the rest.

I would guess that your parents' memory of you would then be lost. But I'm more a fan of the divergent timelines approach. And I'm assuming you can just shoot yourself or whatever when you get sick of living: it's just "You stop aging."

What happens if you go back to kill your ancestor, erasing your origin, but then go back to stop yourself from killing your ancestor after you've become immortal?

 

[sms_117b]

Yes and kill my father as apparently he's a good for nothing nobody.

I think that time travel wise, if your in the same frame of reference as the ancestor you killed, you still exist, but in the time line from then on out, you won't be born again. But for the frame of reference before you go back, i.e the yoctosecond before the yoctosecond you appear, you'll still be born there

 

[Pegghead]

No, me and my mother get along famously. Besides, if you were immortal it would be pretty shit. You'd have to watch your friends and family grow old and die while you stay the same, it would be torture.

 

[Pegghead]

Absolutely not.

However I would go back to 1963 and kill every woman with the surname of Kotick.

Right on sister!

 

[twistedshadows]

No, I'd never want to be immortal.

 

[ThreeWords]

hell no. Why would I want to be immortal?

This man is wise.

 

[Necrofudge]

Well since I haven't read the book, I can't really relate so i'll just inject my own belief here: If I kill my own mother I disappear right then and there. But then I could have never come back in time and killed her, so I come back. This happens over and over until space rips open and time stops. So everything that will ever have or will happen, happens at once.

And what magical pixie force would make your atoms disappear? If you could time travel, and you did kill your blah, then you would simply be stuck in the past with a dead person in front of you.

I wouldn't be talking about magical pixie forces if we are complaining about time travel here.
The whole thing is hypothetical and unless you can prove me differently (Try it), it is also impossible.

Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.

1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.

would you agree?

Yeah that sums it up nicely

 

[AvsJoe]

No, I wouldn't do that. I'm perfectly content living out my meaningless existence in the hopes that I don't f4ck up too badly in life. Besides, I'm not the killing-for-personal-gain type.

 

[Jedamethis]

If it worked, hell yeah!

 

[grimsprice]

Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.

1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.

would you agree?

Yeah that sums it up nicely

All right then. I'll go through each possibility:

1. Pretty self evident, and increases the shame I should be feeling for writing this shite out.

2. I'd like to see this causality force in work, wouldn't it have to be somewhat conscious? Chronos perhaps? Maybe the greeks were right and Zues is mad at us whenever thunder strikes...

3. I'd like to believe that we have free will and everything isn't predictable and causally created, that would be a pretty lame universe, but its possible, and probably likely.

4. This happens to be what i believe. Theres no reason why you should presuppose that matter has an intrinsic history of causation that has to make sense.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue18]

Damn...and I thought this was a thread about retconning. Heh...

While immortality is always nice, that sounds way too risky. Time travel never ends well, especially with my luck.

Besides, I couldn't live with myself knowing that my immortality came at the price of someone else's life. What's the point of a guilt-ridden eternity?

 

[Timotei]

Absolutely not.

However I would go back to 1963 and kill every woman with the surname of Kotick.

Right on sister!

That is by far the funniest thing I have seen all day.

 

[mstot]

Sounds redundant to me, since the immortal version of me would just stop me from resolving my origin since he wants to finally die.

 

[Necrofudge]

Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.

1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.

would you agree?

Yeah that sums it up nicely

All right then. I'll go through each possibility:

1. Pretty self evident, and increases the shame I should be feeling for writing this shite out.

2. I'd like to see this causality force in work, wouldn't it have to be somewhat conscious? Chronos perhaps? Maybe the greeks were right and Zues is mad at us whenever thunder strikes...

3. I'd like to believe that we have free will and everything isn't predictable and causally created, that would be a pretty lame universe, but its possible, and probably likely.

4. This happens to be what i believe. Theres no reason why you should presuppose that matter has an intrinsic history of causation that has to make sense.

Well for the second one I would disagree that it would have to be conscious. I think it would work in a cosmic sort of way relating to all that physics stuff. Like if you travel in time you screw up all the electrons and protons and it has to balance out and whatnot and this happens by making you get vaporized in a blast of light or something.

 

[grimsprice]

Well, would you agree that there are only four hypothetical options.

1: Time travel is impossible.
2: There is a causality force that will 'act' to prevent changes.
3: Whatever will happen, or you want to happen, has already happened.
4: You can in fact, kill your grandfather.

would you agree?

Yeah that sums it up nicely

All right then. I'll go through each possibility:

1. Pretty self evident, and increases the shame I should be feeling for writing this shite out.

2. I'd like to see this causality force in work, wouldn't it have to be somewhat conscious? Chronos perhaps? Maybe the greeks were right and Zues is mad at us whenever thunder strikes...

3. I'd like to believe that we have free will and everything isn't predictable and causally created, that would be a pretty lame universe, but its possible, and probably likely.

4. This happens to be what i believe. Theres no reason why you should presuppose that matter has an intrinsic history of causation that has to make sense.

Well for the second one I would disagree that it would have to be conscious. I think it would work in a cosmic sort of way relating to all that physics stuff. Like if you travel in time you screw up all the electrons and protons and it has to balance out and whatnot and this happens by making you get vaporized in a blast of light or something.

Fair enough, i can't say anything past what my take on it would be, and after hearing yours i'd say that would be cool. You know, the whole exploding light thing. If it is true hypothetically speaking, i can't fucking wait for the scientists to explain that one to the general public... lol

" um, yeah, we just um, verified a math proof that means if you travel back in time you risk being deleted by 'causation', but if you don't mess around to much you should be fine." lol.

 

[Anarchy In Detroit]

No. If I could go back in time I'd be too busy chilling with my Steppe Nomad ancestors seeing what it's like pillaging weaklings for a living in between frothy mugs of... horse milk. Ehhhh... mmmmm?

Basically I would go back in time and just see my ancestors as far back as I could manage to go. Think of the historical research you could do! holy balls!