Poll: Xbox needs a hardware update?

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I think it's time Microsoft needs to bite the bullet on this one and just accept they need to put a blu-ray player in the machine. Why do i say this?

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/10/battlefield-3-for-xbox-360-has-something-special-on-the-second-disc/#more-468825

A Second disc, and an installable texture pack.

and it's not the first time this shit has happened, L.A. Noire came on 3 discs.

Ok im not putting forward an intellectual argument but this shit is starting to resemble Commodore 64's, and that's not a good thing for anyone.

I think it's time Microsoft started going through the avenues of updating the hardware of the 360, because as games get more powerful in graphics (although i don't really see the point, looking pretty never does fully conceal shit), xbox is going to fall behind eventually.


PRE-EMPTIVE: i do not give a crap about how every things better on PC, PS3, as I do not have any of those and cannot afford them because i live in australia, and money's a bit tight and new games costing $100 dollars does tend to make it a luxury.

 

[lacktheknack]

It's called "New Console Generation". It's coming soon.

 

[Fayathon]

I saw this coming when they released the 360 and its high def reader was a separate piece of hardware. I'm wondering why the HD-DVD wasn't built in, at least at that point the format would have lived on for people to put bigger games on.

If getting blu-ray is too much for them to swallow they could revive HD-DVD for their games to go on, at least it would give them something to fight back on the blu-ray issue.

 

[Danceofmasks]

Stop buying from crap stores.
http://www.dungeoncrawl.com.au/c-2-360.aspx

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

It's the end of this console generation's life cycle, so any new hardware that they make for the old xbox 360 will face diminishing returns and won't be worth it.

If they change anything, it'll be in the xbox 720 (or whatever they choose to call it).

 

[theriddlen]

The Xbox doesn't need a hardware update, a generation of Xbox is needed.

Good thing you're not putting forward an intellectual argument.

Are you fully aware that "new console generations" are basically hardware updates with redesigned case? Because it sounds like you think that apart from the hardware they are infused with pixie dust and magic.

 

[theriddlen]

The Xbox doesn't need a hardware update, a generation of Xbox is needed.

Good thing you're not putting forward an intellectual argument.

Are you fully aware that "new console generations" are basically hardware updates with redesigned case? Because it sounds like you think that apart from the hardware they are infused with pixie dust and magic.

often they redesign the gui, if not the whole ui. Not to mention pushing new bells and whisltes like fancy controllers.

Well, they are redesigning GUI even without new generations, so no. Oh, also Kinect and Move came out without new console generations, while every PS generation adds only bugger all to their new controllers.

 

[Vault101]

I dont want another console generation...I just got one semi recently

 

[legendp]

both the 360 and the PS3 need an update and by update I mean new consoles (please no motion control or touch screen crap though), in terms of graphics I barely see a difference between 360 and PS3 (in most cases 360 has better lighting and PS3 has better texture's) and before people say killzone 3 and uncharted 3 in my opinion the original crysis 1 on consoles (like the 360) looks better than those games (and the PC version was released in 2007 and still looks better than any console game....in my opinion)

 

[TacticalAssassin1]

PRE-EMPTIVE: i do not give a crap about how every things better on PC, PS3, as I do not have any of those and cannot afford them because i live in australia, and money's a bit tight and new games costing $100 dollars does tend to make it a luxury.

Well if the Xbox gets an upgrade it'll cost as much as a PS3 to buy anyway, so I don't see your point there.
New games don't cost 100 bucks if you don't mind buying online. Go to ozgameshop.com, you can get new games real cheap there. For example, you can get Skyrim AND a cloth map of the skyrim game world for just over 60 bucks. I bet at EB games it'd cost around 120 bucks.

So yeah, buy on ozgameshop or another online store and save a shitload.

 

[Yopaz]

The Xbox doesn't need a hardware update, a generation of Xbox is needed.

Good thing you're not putting forward an intellectual argument.

Are you fully aware that "new console generations" are basically hardware updates with redesigned case? Because it sounds like you think that apart from the hardware they are infused with pixie dust and magic.

often they redesign the gui, if not the whole ui. Not to mention pushing new bells and whisltes like fancy controllers.

Well, they are redesigning GUI even without new generations, so no. Oh, also Kinect and Move came out without new console generations, while every PS generation adds only bugger all to their new controllers.

Kinect and Move are not hardware updates. They are accessories. If I buy a new mouse I didn't update the hardware of my PC. Kinect and Move will probably be compatible with the next consoles.


OT: Yeah, there's no need for hardware updates for Xbox. They need a new console generation with completely new hardware. Updating the hardware will only alienate consumers not willing to pay for the new hardware, or willing to void the warranty by opening their Xbox. The whole point of having a console is that you don't have to upgrade it.

 

[theriddlen]

The Xbox doesn't need a hardware update, a generation of Xbox is needed.

Good thing you're not putting forward an intellectual argument.

Are you fully aware that "new console generations" are basically hardware updates with redesigned case? Because it sounds like you think that apart from the hardware they are infused with pixie dust and magic.

often they redesign the gui, if not the whole ui. Not to mention pushing new bells and whisltes like fancy controllers.

Well, they are redesigning GUI even without new generations, so no. Oh, also Kinect and Move came out without new console generations, while every PS generation adds only bugger all to their new controllers.

Kinect and Move are not hardware updates. They are accessories. If I buy a new mouse I didn't update the hardware of my PC. Kinect and Move will probably be compatible with the next consoles.


OT: Yeah, there's no need for hardware updates for Xbox. They need a new console generation with completely new hardware. Updating the hardware will only alienate consumers not willing to pay for the new hardware, or willing to void the warranty by opening their Xbox. The whole point of having a console is that you don't have to upgrade it.

Can you tell me where exactly I said that controllers are hardware updates? It even wasn't me who started talking about controllers.

 

[Zipa]

The current hardware for the 360 is definately starting to fall short compared to the PS3 and the average PC , Rage illustrates this quite well as it requres 3 disks and the textures are not rendered fast enough in game so you notice it.

That said Microsoft have also said that the expect the current console generation to last until 2015 (10 years) so it might well be awhile before we see a new version of the Xbox.

The PS3 is holding up better as it has improved hardware when compared to the 360. Though both of them are getting left way behind PC tech but that is just because the PC is improving all the time, though not as fast as in the past.

And yeah Sony are partial owners of the Blu Ray codexes so Microsoft may never get them for their console.

 

[brainslurper]

It WILL get an update, within the next year or so. Unfortunately, they won't abandon their stupid disk format, and the "new hardware" will be 3 years old.

 

[Yopaz]

The Xbox doesn't need a hardware update, a generation of Xbox is needed.

Good thing you're not putting forward an intellectual argument.

Are you fully aware that "new console generations" are basically hardware updates with redesigned case? Because it sounds like you think that apart from the hardware they are infused with pixie dust and magic.

often they redesign the gui, if not the whole ui. Not to mention pushing new bells and whisltes like fancy controllers.

Well, they are redesigning GUI even without new generations, so no. Oh, also Kinect and Move came out without new console generations, while every PS generation adds only bugger all to their new controllers.

Kinect and Move are not hardware updates. They are accessories. If I buy a new mouse I didn't update the hardware of my PC. Kinect and Move will probably be compatible with the next consoles.


OT: Yeah, there's no need for hardware updates for Xbox. They need a new console generation with completely new hardware. Updating the hardware will only alienate consumers not willing to pay for the new hardware, or willing to void the warranty by opening their Xbox. The whole point of having a console is that you don't have to upgrade it.

Can you tell me where exactly I said that controllers are hardware updates? It even wasn't me who started talking about controllers.

Your first post was a reply to a post saying that the Xbox doesn't need a hardware upgrade. It needs to be abandoned for a brand new console. You then proceeded to mention that there has been software updates and new accessories without a new console generation. You never said that it was a hardware upgrade, but you compared it too it.

 

[RemuValtrez]

I just see it as there is no real reason to upgrade the hardware now at this point. Just look towards the next generation of consoles to take care of the things that they are missing out on.

 

[Joccaren]

Honestly, if you want hardware, get a PC. Its plain and simple. If you don't mind being stuck with old hardware until a new generation of the console comes out, then having to buy the console for a high price, then stick with consoles.

...PC is improving all the time, though not as fast as in the past.

One of the laws of computing begs to differ: Processing power doubles each year.
Honestly, PCs are still getting better around the same rate as always, though the prices for the best parts are getting more and more ludicrous...

 

[number2301]

Regarding Blu Ray, Sony partly own CD and DVD as well, never stopped Microsoft using them either.

Personally I dont see a big issue with multiple discs, some Playstation games came on 4 discs! As long as you've a decent sized drive (not the 20Gb model like me) it's not a big deal, just install all of them.

 

[Jazoni89]

Blu ray is owned by Sony, so their's no chance in hell that it will appear on a Microsoft console.

The 360 however did have HD-DVD at some point, but due to it's unpopularity, and lack of support, the format was scrapped.

You can still buy HD-DVD drives for the 360, but good luck finding HD DVD's, let alone finding decent films for it.

 

[Zipa]

Honestly, if you want hardware, get a PC. Its plain and simple. If you don't mind being stuck with old hardware until a new generation of the console comes out, then having to buy the console for a high price, then stick with consoles.

...PC is improving all the time, though not as fast as in the past.

One of the laws of computing begs to differ: Processing power doubles each year.
Honestly, PCs are still getting better around the same rate as always, though the prices for the best parts are getting more and more ludicrous...

Graphics has reached a aepx of sorts, since we have reached the HD era the progeression has been slower overall. The jump between each generation graphics card is much smaller than it used to be.