The HK416. One of the most durable rifles I have ever seen. They left it in both sand and water for days during tests and a after a quick shake it can fire again.
I actually do remember reading about this somewhere, now that you mention it. I was under the blind illusion that it was awesome but expensive. However my comment still stands - there are no doubt better weapons and equipment out there, but they're damn expensive. We all remember that quote that was used on Call of Duty 4: 'Your weapon is made by the lowest bidder.'Scolar Visari said:Since your other post about Dragon Skin isn't appearing,I'm responding to this one. Dragon Skin was/is a crapshoot. They claimed it worked real well, but a number of Army tests had shown the vests failing some basic tests and the company tried to play it off like it was nothing. As I remember, heat and diesel played hell with the vests and would cause the glue that held them together to fail.Geekosaurus said:Yeah the MR-110? I swear it used to be called something else. They also looked at the KAC PDW on Future Weapons. It uses a larger round than the standard 5.56 NATO round. and does more damage but has less recoil. Sounds like they should be adopting that too.Canid117 said:According to this site (and future weapons as I recall) the sniper they have at the top of their catalog is being adopted.Geekosaurus said:Anything from these guys - Knight's Armament:
http://www.knightarmco.com/
Better bullets and weapons are out there but governments aren't willing to pay the high prices that third party manufactures are charging. It's like that 'Dragon Skin' body armour - it's miles better than the armour soldiers are issued with, but governments wont buy it for their armies because it's just too expensive.
I know for a fact that at least Denmark is pissed as all Hell because both the rifle itself and the operating system are poorly suited for cold climates. I'm talking serious failures, like weapons exploding or having to stand on the charging handle to cycle the weapon. It's not a piece of shit, but it ain't the second coming of JMB either.baddude1337 said:The HK416. One of the most durable rifles I have ever seen. They left it in both sand and water for days during tests and a after a quick shake it can fire again.
You're absolutely right, but that doesn't mean we should just change because somebody created something new. Sure there are some cool rifles available, but they aren't that so amazingly great that we need to purchase thousands and retrain absolutely everybody on some fancy new system.Geekosaurus said:I actually do remember reading about this somewhere, now that you mention it. I was under the blind illusion that it was awesome but expensive. However my comment still stands - there are no doubt better weapons and equipment out there, but they're damn expensive. We all remember that quote that was used on Call of Duty 4: 'Your weapon is made by the lowest bidder.'Scolar Visari said:Since your other post about Dragon Skin isn't appearing,I'm responding to this one. Dragon Skin was/is a crapshoot. They claimed it worked real well, but a number of Army tests had shown the vests failing some basic tests and the company tried to play it off like it was nothing. As I remember, heat and diesel played hell with the vests and would cause the glue that held them together to fail.Geekosaurus said:Yeah the MR-110? I swear it used to be called something else. They also looked at the KAC PDW on Future Weapons. It uses a larger round than the standard 5.56 NATO round. and does more damage but has less recoil. Sounds like they should be adopting that too.Canid117 said:According to this site (and future weapons as I recall) the sniper they have at the top of their catalog is being adopted.Geekosaurus said:Anything from these guys - Knight's Armament:
http://www.knightarmco.com/
Better bullets and weapons are out there but governments aren't willing to pay the high prices that third party manufactures are charging. It's like that 'Dragon Skin' body armour - it's miles better than the armour soldiers are issued with, but governments wont buy it for their armies because it's just too expensive.
Oh yeah, they're not gonna do it for the sake of it. They'll hold out with what they have for as long as they can. But if, hypothetically, they wanted to change their standard rifles to the best rifles that money can buy, they'd have a massive job on their hands because pretty much everything would have to be replaced. And then of course they'd have all those old weapons that need selling to developing countries...Scolar Visari said:You're absolutely right, but that doesn't mean we should just change because somebody created something new. Sure there are some cool rifles available, but they aren't that so amazingly great that we need to purchase thousands and retrain absolutely everybody on some fancy new system.
It's not in COD..?KaosuHamoni said:SIG SG 553, otherwise known as the .553 Commando.
I swear, if someone says "your only saying that because of CoD", I will kill you. =_=
The .552 is. Its just called the Commando in CoD though.Geekosaurus said:It's not in COD..?KaosuHamoni said:SIG SG 553, otherwise known as the .552 Commando's big brother, and replacement
I swear, if someone says "your only saying that because of CoD", I will kill you. =_=
This, because Germans are just known for making the best shit out there.baddude1337 said:The HK416. One of the most durable rifles I have ever seen. They left it in both sand and water for days during tests and a after a quick shake it can fire again.
Erm...that's a Colt M733. Also known as a CAR-15 and an XM-177.KaosuHamoni said:The .552 is. Its just called the Commando in CoD though.Geekosaurus said:It's not in COD..?KaosuHamoni said:SIG SG 553, otherwise known as the .552 Commando's big brother, and replacement
I swear, if someone says "your only saying that because of CoD", I will kill you. =_=
My bad. I heard 'Commando', and assumed it was the SG .552 =PGeekosaurus said:Erm...that's a Colt M733. Also known as a CAR-15 and an XM-177.KaosuHamoni said:The .552 is. Its just called the Commando in CoD though.Geekosaurus said:It's not in COD..?KaosuHamoni said:SIG SG 553, otherwise known as the .552 Commando's big brother, and replacement
I swear, if someone says "your only saying that because of CoD", I will kill you. =_=
Sorry if I've totally ruined the Commando for you now!KaosuHamoni said:My bad. I heard 'Commando', and assumed it was the SG .552 =PGeekosaurus said:Erm...that's a Colt M733. Also known as a CAR-15 and an XM-177.KaosuHamoni said:The .552 is. Its just called the Commando in CoD though.Geekosaurus said:It's not in COD..?KaosuHamoni said:SIG SG 553, otherwise known as the .552 Commando's big brother, and replacement
I swear, if someone says "your only saying that because of CoD", I will kill you. =_=
Haha yeah, saw bunch of videos of the gun literally coming apart on the users hand.Canid117 said:I believe the XM8 had horrible failing issues in high heat environments. Something about the plastic melting.
No no, its fine. =] SIG are my favourite firearms manufacturer. If I could have any pistol, I would have a SIG P226Geekosaurus said:Sorry if I've totally ruined the Commando for you now!KaosuHamoni said:My bad. I heard 'Commando', and assumed it was the SG .552 =PGeekosaurus said:Erm...that's a Colt M733. Also known as a CAR-15 and an XM-177.KaosuHamoni said:The .552 is. Its just called the Commando in CoD though.Geekosaurus said:It's not in COD..?KaosuHamoni said:SIG SG 553, otherwise known as the .552 Commando's big brother, and replacement
I swear, if someone says "your only saying that because of CoD", I will kill you. =_=
Meh. Not a gun guy. Just like the ACR.toastmaster2k8 said:Why?ToonLink said:My vote would be for the Remmington ACR.
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AmrasCalmacil said:I'm surprised no-one's suggested the H&K 416 yet, it has an immediately recognisable design, it's remarkably durable and has already been adopted by America's 1st SFOD-D.
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