This. They charge enough as it and bank charges are increasing. I see taking this atm money as fine, the bank will just claim the loss from insurance anyway.TopazFusion said:
Poll: You come across a broken ATM...
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No, youd have to pay taxes on it, and then you have to justify how you get it. you can not pay taxes on it, but then (here at least) the IRS can stop by for an audit and say, gee, you suddenly seem to have a lot of money, where'd you get all that and then when they find out youre in trouble for theft and tax evasion.
and this is not mentioning the little camera in the ATM doesnt catch you (i'm assuming that's part of the no links ot the crime portion).
besides, I just couldnt in good conscious.
and this is not mentioning the little camera in the ATM doesnt catch you (i'm assuming that's part of the no links ot the crime portion).
besides, I just couldnt in good conscious.
That's why I made the source of money a known but (somewhat) not liked source; I wanted to see how that would affect the answers of people.micahrp said:
Many in this very thread have stated that they would not IF they knew it came from another person. It coming from the big bad machine of banks seemed to have greatly shifted opinions (almost a 3 to 1 difference as of this post).
As usual, my answer proves me a morally-corrupt ass, but a cunning ass at that.
I'd scoop up say...$400 or so, enough to enjoy a luxury or two, and at the same time a small enough amount that it won't be missed in the growing pile of 20s in front of the machine. Then I'd tell the employees. I stop people from robbing the place completely blind, while at the same time directing suspicion away from myself. And the only entity that loses out is the bank itself, for which $400 is less than a rounding error.
I'd scoop up say...$400 or so, enough to enjoy a luxury or two, and at the same time a small enough amount that it won't be missed in the growing pile of 20s in front of the machine. Then I'd tell the employees. I stop people from robbing the place completely blind, while at the same time directing suspicion away from myself. And the only entity that loses out is the bank itself, for which $400 is less than a rounding error.
What deeper principle I am missing?tippy2k2 said:
All I see from the responses here is "targetting certain groups you don't like makes a criminal act against them justified" and so many in these forums seem to be against even feeling certain ways about groups you don't agree with, much less criminal acts.
Nope. Doing that would be like claiming on car insurance when you weren't injured, other people would end up paying for, and being affected, by your theft.
Plus, I'm not desperate for money. Unless I was desperate for something to eat, there's no reason to resort to illegal actions.
Plus, I'm not desperate for money. Unless I was desperate for something to eat, there's no reason to resort to illegal actions.
I'd grab about hundred or so. Enough that if I get picked up by the police I'm not completely fuck. At max, 900. Anything over 999 is a felony.
You're not missing any deeper principle. I was just giving you the justification for why I made the thread the way I did versus using your example of finding a wallet on the ground. I happen to agree with you that taking from the bank is no better than taking from a neighbor; I was merely curious if others felt the same way.micahrp said:
Frankly, I'm kind of surprised that the votes have swung the way that they did but I'm not here to judge; I'm just here to see what others thought.
Honestly. To me, It depends how much. If a certain amount came out sure. Like a couple 100's. But if its like more then like 3,000 dollars and such. I wouldn't take it. I would hate it. I believe in luck yeah. Everybody needs a little luck on their side sure. But there a limit to how much luck i want, before I feel I didn't deserve it.
I don't know what I would do in that situation, I tend to feel overly guilty about this sort of thing.
However not to long ago in a small town/village a cash point malfunction and allowed people to take out money without being charged. Apparently people got to keep the money but I guess it was insured and the bank acted quite fast to stop it.
However not to long ago in a small town/village a cash point malfunction and allowed people to take out money without being charged. Apparently people got to keep the money but I guess it was insured and the bank acted quite fast to stop it.
Your post summarizes my feelings of this thread pretty well. It's disturbing that so many people are perfectly willing to steal provided 1)they won't get caught, and 2)they're stealing from a wealthy business instead of directly from an individual.BiscuitTrouser said:
The argument that the money isn't coming from someone's account is, frankly, bullshit. The money is owned by the bank, and the people who run the bank have the exact same right to their property as you do to yours. If it's ok for you to keep money that the ATM accidentally spits out, then anyone who works at the bank can take money you accidentally leave on the counter.
I'm also loving the "they steal from me with their fees" argument. Um, no. You signed a contract agreeing to those fees, and are now bitching that you have to accept the consequences of that decision like an adult. You told the bank they could take your money in fees. That's not theft. If you have a problem with it too bad--put on your big kid undies and deal with it.