Poll: Your Pet is Drowning, and so is a Stranger.

[Loonyyy]

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I was just rereading some of this thread, and I think you deserve some special credit for so thoroughly cutting through the heinous reasoning and complete ignorance of logic of Slayer.

Have an internet, since I can't embed images.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I was just rereading some of this thread, and I think you deserve some special credit for so thoroughly cutting through the heinous reasoning and complete ignorance of logic of Slayer.

Have an internet, since I can't embed images.

An internet! Just what I always wanted!

OMG it's full of porn!

 

[Ieyke]

Historically, it's pretty well established that betrayal is regarded as basically THE worst thing you can do.
Even in Dante's Inferno:

Ninth Circle and final Circle Of Hell (Treachery)
...

The problem - in itself - with saying betrayal is such a sin is it serves more to reinforce loyalty. This doesn't serve little pets, it serve power hungry barons, controlling fathers and possessive husbands coercing people to agree to things they should be able to object to and think and apply rational thought over.

Uh...no. There's a difference between disagreement/defiance and betrayal. Betrayal as a massively bad thing applies pretty much to any situation where someone truly trusts someone else.

I only used Inferno as a convenient example of just how bad betrayal is, in that literarily you'd be equated to the likes of Satan, Warmaster Horus, Luthor, the Sith, Benedict Arnold, Judas, Saruman, etc etc.
Even Marcus Junius Brutus, who betrayed his friend Julius Caesar, is scorned as a terrible traitor DESPITE the fact that people recognize that he did what he did out of his love for Rome itself - hoping to save The Republic.

They have no trust in random people around them

I think actually they do, they trust that you won't dash them round the head with a rock and steal their money otherwise they would never go near you. And I think if they collapsed in the street and they begged you to call for an ambulance they'd expect you to care enough to do something.

Nope. Don't confuse lack of suspicion/paranoia for being the same thing as trust. They're not remotely the same thing.
You can't logically "expect" someone to do something based on no evidence that that might be the case. They can HOPE someone will do something. Hope and expectation are not the same thing.
Little children CAN be expected to trust random people for no reason, but only because they haven't learned that they shouldn't yet. Anyone doing that as an adult is naive, at best.

Sorry, this is not black and white. Just because you owe something to your pet doesn't mean you owe nothing to a stranger.

You're right, that's not automatically true. There's always the possibility that the stranger has in some tangential way impacted your life positively. But by the base assumption of a stranger being a person you have nothing to do with, no, you don't owe them anything.

 

[Loonyyy]

I was just rereading some of this thread, and I think you deserve some special credit for so thoroughly cutting through the heinous reasoning and complete ignorance of logic of Slayer.

Have an internet, since I can't embed images.

An internet! Just what I always wanted!

OMG it's full of porn!

I know right! It's amazing!