I agree with this comment, us guys would make great lesbiansUnwishedGunz said:im a guy, tho sometimes i wish i was a girl so i can have a lesbian party![]()
*facepalm*The Artificially Prolonged said:I agree with this comment, us guys would make great lesbiansUnwishedGunz said:im a guy, tho sometimes i wish i was a girl so i can have a lesbian party![]()
in all honesty, there's probably not alot of intersex individuals on the escapist.Ellen of Kitten said:Shoot, after reading that, I can't believe I forgot to add Intersexed to the poll.Daedalus1942 said:According to Gina Wilson of the Organisation Intersex International, there has never been a true hermaphrodite (that is able to procreate with ones self due to male and female genitalia fully functional and developed) recorded in the history of the human race.Odradek said:Well, my understanding is simply that it's inaccurate. I didn't mean to say "hate" but I suppose "offensive" implies that... so maybe I was a bit inaccurate on my part! Sorry! My knowledge is primarily from intersex friends, educators & literature from intersex education organizations. Might not be true for you, your community or intersex friends!Zeeky_Santos said:Okay, I can kinda deal with the pointless negative inflection on Shemale, but 'hermaphrodite' is offensive how now? It's a word derived from Greek mythos (Hermes and Aphrodite, to be particular) and it literally means To posses the characteristics of both a male and a female at the same time. It has been used for centuries to describe genetic 'intersex' things (generic particle, don't start on me using the word things) in the natural world. Snails for example are Hermaphroditic, that is to say that they posses both male and female genitalia, ergo what you'd call intersex (if I'm not mistaken).Odradek said:Same as hermaphrodite is usually offensive to the intersex community.
Please explain why the 'intersex' community hates a word that has been in use for so long and is possibly the most benign, unbiased* descriptor ever used for them?
*Even 'intersex' holds some bias as a word used in commonplace instead of a word deemed to be offensive (for no apparent reason) and henceforth is more biased than hermaphroditic.
You are totally correct that snails are hermaphrodites... which speaks to why many members of the intersex community don't use it to describe themselves. It's very rare, if not entirely unheard of, for a human to have both male and female genitals fully formed and in working order, like a snail or like the child of Hermes & Aphrodite! Someone who is intersex usually has a variation of some combination but almost never what one (rightly, biologically & mythologically) would recognize as hermaphroditic. It's just biologically, medically and physically inaccurate. Hopefully not something that needs arguing. I was just trying to help someone who seemed to want to be an ally to start learning good beginner ways to act as an ally! I say hooray to that and no offense intended! Hopefully no hard feelings!![]()
Intersex individual are intersexed, they're not hermaphrodites, they aren't even pseudo-hermaphrodites, just intersexed.
That being said there are many hermaphroditic species in the animal kingdom. No human has ever been recorded as a true hermaphrodite though. intersex people were originally classed as hermaphrodites but it was an incorrect term and was popular around the 80's.
that word has since been discarded in favour of Is or intersex, and I have several Is friends who are perfectly fine with that classification.
-Tabs<3-I feel like it might be to late, now that the numbers are underway.
I feel like it should have been in there anyway. The number of f2m's in the poll are still single digit, but I don't want to forget about them either.Daedalus1942 said:in all honesty, there's probably not alot of intersex individuals on the escapist.Ellen of Kitten said:Shoot, after reading that, I can't believe I forgot to add Intersexed to the poll.Daedalus1942 said:According to Gina Wilson of the Organisation Intersex International, there has never been a true hermaphrodite (that is able to procreate with ones self due to male and female genitalia fully functional and developed) recorded in the history of the human race.Odradek said:Well, my understanding is simply that it's inaccurate. I didn't mean to say "hate" but I suppose "offensive" implies that... so maybe I was a bit inaccurate on my part! Sorry! My knowledge is primarily from intersex friends, educators & literature from intersex education organizations. Might not be true for you, your community or intersex friends!Zeeky_Santos said:Okay, I can kinda deal with the pointless negative inflection on Shemale, but 'hermaphrodite' is offensive how now? It's a word derived from Greek mythos (Hermes and Aphrodite, to be particular) and it literally means To posses the characteristics of both a male and a female at the same time. It has been used for centuries to describe genetic 'intersex' things (generic particle, don't start on me using the word things) in the natural world. Snails for example are Hermaphroditic, that is to say that they posses both male and female genitalia, ergo what you'd call intersex (if I'm not mistaken).Odradek said:Same as hermaphrodite is usually offensive to the intersex community.
Please explain why the 'intersex' community hates a word that has been in use for so long and is possibly the most benign, unbiased* descriptor ever used for them?
*Even 'intersex' holds some bias as a word used in commonplace instead of a word deemed to be offensive (for no apparent reason) and henceforth is more biased than hermaphroditic.
You are totally correct that snails are hermaphrodites... which speaks to why many members of the intersex community don't use it to describe themselves. It's very rare, if not entirely unheard of, for a human to have both male and female genitals fully formed and in working order, like a snail or like the child of Hermes & Aphrodite! Someone who is intersex usually has a variation of some combination but almost never what one (rightly, biologically & mythologically) would recognize as hermaphroditic. It's just biologically, medically and physically inaccurate. Hopefully not something that needs arguing. I was just trying to help someone who seemed to want to be an ally to start learning good beginner ways to act as an ally! I say hooray to that and no offense intended! Hopefully no hard feelings!![]()
Intersex individual are intersexed, they're not hermaphrodites, they aren't even pseudo-hermaphrodites, just intersexed.
That being said there are many hermaphroditic species in the animal kingdom. No human has ever been recorded as a true hermaphrodite though. intersex people were originally classed as hermaphrodites but it was an incorrect term and was popular around the 80's.
that word has since been discarded in favour of Is or intersex, and I have several Is friends who are perfectly fine with that classification.
-Tabs<3-I feel like it might be to late, now that the numbers are underway.
that, or there could be heaps that just don't know they are even intersexed. Alot of people live their lives without knowing until they hneed major surgery for something and the doctors cut them open and find remnants of another sex.
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