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:/ Well that's a whole lot of messed up stuff.

What are they going to do next to mess with the PC version of games? Make you play with a controller? Try to get rid of mods?
Have it be always online even for the single player mode? ...<.< Oh yeah. That's been done already....

I don't play on PC, but it's unfortunate to hear devs aren't taking advantage or at least letting the players take advantage of what you can do on a PC.
Best of luck to PC gamers I guess.
 

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I wouldn't mind a QTD feature in a NSFW game. On the other hand, probably I would be wasting my time in playing at work, instead of commenting on the Escapist's forums.
 

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Everyone freaking out about the escape key in FFXIII... This port has some really serious problems, and the escape key thing is pretty minor next to the performance, resolution, and framerate issues.

This is how I see the esc-to-quit problem:

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Not to mention that FF13 looks rather awful on PC. And it had such potential to look gorgeous because it's a pretty enough game on consoles already.
Check out Durante's fix [http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?page_id=582]

For example check out how pretty the game looks downscaled from 4k [http://imgur.com/a/3umXP]

I know playing at 4k downsampled onto a 1440p monitor with 60 fps that the game is gorgeous and one of the prettiest i've played. I go wow very often.
 

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taciturnCandid said:
An Ceannaire said:
Not to mention that FF13 looks rather awful on PC. And it had such potential to look gorgeous because it's a pretty enough game on consoles already.
Check out Durante's fix [http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?page_id=582]

For example check out how pretty the game looks downscaled from 4k [http://imgur.com/a/3umXP]

I know playing at 4k downsampled onto a 1440p monitor with 60 fps that the game is gorgeous and one of the prettiest i've played. I go wow very often.
The FF13 games had a lot of problems, but they certainly were gorgeous - and as you have shown, have the potential to look even better.

I have two things to comment on based on those images you linked:

1. Lightning looks noticeably younger in the first game than she does in Lightning Returns even though she shouldn't really have aged that much.

2. She is also suffering from a rather severe case of shiny-face.
 

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You'd think people who self-describe themselves as being members of a "master race" wouldn't complain this much about being bullied by meany console devs.
 

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I never did finish FF13. Did it get any better? Everyone said it did, but I stopped believing them after the angsty father/son bullshit after the boring as shit boss that took me 30mins to kill.
 

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I remember that Yahtzee wrote an article about horror games looking shitty being inherent to their scaryness, something to keep in mind, as different versions of a game can deviate from what the developers designed it to do.
Yahtzee also said that Square-Enix - and I quote - "built an entire company around making things look their worst for many years", so I guess they're just continuing that tradition of excellence that everyone's come to expect. :p

More to the point, I really don't think that 'artistic direction' can ever excuse the decision to deliberately withhold graphical improvements on PC versions when the console version itself was sold on the strength of its graphics, like WATCH_DOGS, one of the games that this comic is obliquely referencing, was.
 

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VanQ said:
I never did finish FF13. Did it get any better? Everyone said it did, but I stopped believing them after the angsty father/son bullshit after the boring as shit boss that took me 30mins to kill.
The gameplay opened up eventually. The story remained stupid.

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Imp Emissary said:
What are they going to do next to mess with the PC version of games? Make you play with a controller? Try to get rid of mods?
*cough* that's all old news: there's a bunch of games that are unplayable without an official XBox360 controller, specifically. As for the mod issue: compare Sims 2 to Sims 3 to Sims 4.
 

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Mike000 said:
Imp Emissary said:
What are they going to do next to mess with the PC version of games? Make you play with a controller? Try to get rid of mods?
*cough* that's all old news: there's a bunch of games that are unplayable without an official XBox360 controller, specifically. As for the mod issue: compare Sims 2 to Sims 3 to Sims 4.
<.< Ah. Well crap.

I've heard of games made with a controller in mind over a keyboard, but I didn't know there were some that made you use one without choice.

As for mods, I figured it would be harder for to stop them since they're mostly the work of players. Also didn't see the point in stopping mods. I mean, that's like the best thing about PC games.

Hope the market doesn't support these changes.
 

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Imp Emissary said:
What are they going to do next to mess with the PC version of games? Make you play with a controller? Try to get rid of mods?
The original hitman and darksouls come close to only useing controler, hitman was certainly unplayable without with standard walk and sidesteps tied to (szc) and the mouse was not used to turn.

As for getting rid of mods, GTA did that, due to the hot coffee mod.
 

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An Ceannaire said:
taciturnCandid said:
An Ceannaire said:
Not to mention that FF13 looks rather awful on PC. And it had such potential to look gorgeous because it's a pretty enough game on consoles already.
Check out Durante's fix [http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?page_id=582]

For example check out how pretty the game looks downscaled from 4k [http://imgur.com/a/3umXP]

I know playing at 4k downsampled onto a 1440p monitor with 60 fps that the game is gorgeous and one of the prettiest i've played. I go wow very often.
The FF13 games had a lot of problems, but they certainly were gorgeous - and as you have shown, have the potential to look even better.

I have two things to comment on based on those images you linked:

1. Lightning looks noticeably younger in the first game than she does in Lightning Returns even though she shouldn't really have aged that much.

2. She is also suffering from a rather severe case of shiny-face.


Honestly, I'm cool with bad game developing decisions; bad games will exist. However the sheer arrogance of the man behind Lightning and FFXIII's world and story is what turned me into an anti-FFXIII troll today.

I'll add a couple more things about Lightning to your list since I'm such a writing critic:

3. She suffers from apathy too much and expresses very little emotion(Seriously, is this how the Japanese audience see her as a "strong woman character"?)

4. She misses the common, almost vital rule in quality character development...development!

But I give Lightning some credit, she may be Toriyama's "DeviantART OC - don't steal" but she has said one of the most "questionable, yet amusing" lines in a game:

"Destiny is destiny."

But enough of my stupid, mindless rant.

I believe, typically, half-assed ports are simple cash-ins, probably why we don't or rarely see fixes of the actual product's compatibility. FFXIII being ported to PC is just about the same way it was marketed when it was first released for console: relying on brand name for sales, and not for it's quality.
 

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That last panel is beautiful.

Johnny Novgorod said:
You'd think people who self-describe themselves as being members of a "master race" wouldn't complain this much about being bullied by meany console devs.
We can fix their mistakes, but that's just more work for us.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
You'd think people who self-describe themselves as being members of a "master race" wouldn't complain this much about being bullied by meany console devs.
Its less about being "bullied" and more frustration that the console developers/publishers are willingly hurting and holding back gaming overall with their shitty decisions. It is fine if the new gen can't run at 1080p/60fps for most games despite all the hype that was made about it for new gen, a lot of people don't care, just come out and admit it already.

What they are doing now though is actively sabotaging the PC which has the potential to eclipse anything a console can do performance wise just to hide the poor hardware that the new gen consoles.

It won't help them any though, all that will happen is the same as in the past, either a modder will unlock/fix a game a la Dark souls or PC gamers will just stop buying games they know are bad ports or deliberately hamstrung.

The worst thing is that it is entirely their own doing, the devs/publishers have been pushing for next gen graphics and performance, even to the point of touting 4K for the new gen but when it came to the crunch its just not going to happen.
 

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Zipa said:
It won't help them any though, all that will happen is the same as in the past, either a modder will unlock/fix a game a la Dark souls or PC gamers will just stop buying games they know are bad ports or deliberately hamstrung.
The best part is when the developer gets to use the second part of this as the self-fulfilling prophecy of PC gamers not supporting their games as justification for either shitty ports or no ports at all.
 

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ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Zipa said:
It won't help them any though, all that will happen is the same as in the past, either a modder will unlock/fix a game a la Dark souls or PC gamers will just stop buying games they know are bad ports or deliberately hamstrung.
The best part is when the developer gets to use the second part of this as the self-fulfilling prophecy of PC gamers not supporting their games as justification for either shitty ports or no ports at all.
Or the age old favourite of the shitty port makers, blaming piracy.
 

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And AAA developers are wondering why the indie's are eating their lunch. Indie devs are giving PC gamers what they want and typically cheaper. I don't have the same brown FPS's year after year. I have a myriad of options, least of which being the AAA scene. I used to love console for its ease of use until that came second to choice, deep discounts, and moreover gameplay. AAA developers such as EA are simply shooting themselves in the foot by not including PC gamers. Point in case, EA stopped producing Madden for PC. Modders have consistently updated Madden 08 with the latest rosters. Think there isn't a want for the game EA? When game developers can't be arsed to do something on PC, typically the gaming community comes together and comes up with a solution. Then these same developers want PC gamers to purchase their latest and greatest for the same price as console and typically the same version as console just ported to PC. Well companies like Activision need look no further than COD: Ghosts to see what we think of their opinion on PC gaming.