It is pretty clear what they are irate about.drizztmainsword said:
Don't have a false sense of superiority either, /v/'s a shit ton smarter than a lot of users on this board.
Portal 2 - DLC Backlash
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Don't have a false sense of superiority either, /v/'s a shit ton smarter than a lot of users on this board.
These kind of things have been in games as unlockables since at least NES, but now that DLC exist we have to pay for it. Yes other games have done it before and I have been just as annoyed by them, but now there are a big minority of games that agrees with me and that pleases me. There are good reason to be angry about this trend to have less and less content in games even it's just some small as different skins. Why because it, in my eyes, show what is wrong with concept of DLC it's not used to give extra content but to sell what should have been in the product from the start.
newsflash, /v/ isn't a hivemind. If someone comes here and tells you to do something, you don't rush off to follow orders.
I think people are quite happy with the game, just not the completely optional and useless DLC that no one is making them buy.Sober Thal said:
rockyoumonkeys said:
Or maybe just not understanding what we're talking about...
You, like all the other valve defence force commandoes ITT, just don't get the point. It shouldn't BE DLC. When you buy a game, you should have everything, not get a 'surprise! we didn't give you the full content of the game' message.Nick Stackware said:
Yes. And the customers decided by buying the game which didn't list "Additional cosmetic items included" at any point. Did Gabe came to someone's house, put a gun to their head and forced them to buy Portal2? No? Thought so.believer258 said:
Can you give me one valid reason as to why it should be given to you for free? Only because it was done? So following that logic if a developer works on 2 games and both are ready at same time, no matter which of them you buy you should get the other one for free?
You must realize DLC, especially in case of purely cosmetic stuff, is like receiving a bumper sticker for donating 5$ for an organisation because you consider that what they do is worth additional support.
Personally i don't give a damn about hats or textures for the co-op robots. I bought a game and i got the game i paid for. I don't love Valve enough to pay them any more so i won't buy the cosmetic junk. My choice.
My feelings:
1) This ISN'T day 1 DLC, as DLC implies content. This is microtransactions. NOT THE SAME THING.
2) It is incredibly stupid and annoying on Valve's part, as it's clearly a nod to how they want to make money, but they're a company so whatever.
3) YOU PEOPLE THAT USED MANN CO ARE ENTIRELY TO BLAME.
So, #3 sums it all up. If you used the Mann Co store and are bitching about this, you are a hypocrit of the highest calibur and need to stop talking.
1) This ISN'T day 1 DLC, as DLC implies content. This is microtransactions. NOT THE SAME THING.
2) It is incredibly stupid and annoying on Valve's part, as it's clearly a nod to how they want to make money, but they're a company so whatever.
3) YOU PEOPLE THAT USED MANN CO ARE ENTIRELY TO BLAME.
So, #3 sums it all up. If you used the Mann Co store and are bitching about this, you are a hypocrit of the highest calibur and need to stop talking.
Day 1 DLC = missing out on some game content AND having characters in the game try to tell you to go do buy it (DA:O) = FUCKING TERRIBLE
Day 1 DLC = buy some new skins = FUCKING FINE AS FUCK SO FUCK OFF WITH THE FUCKED SCORES (lol)
But seriously, the "day 1 DLC" isn't an all encompassing thing. If we're talking content specifically excluded from the game like a whole chapter or whatever, then yeah that's a kick in the nuts. But we're talking about some stupid costmetic shit! WTF! Not to mention all these bombers have so obviously not even played the game (3 hours to beat it! HURP DERP!) when the average response I've seen is at least 5-6 hours. Not a long single player game obviously but at least they didn't charge $60 either!
Plus there's all the co-op.
Plus who knows if you can unlock some type of skins on your own when you beat things?
Day 1 DLC = buy some new skins = FUCKING FINE AS FUCK SO FUCK OFF WITH THE FUCKED SCORES (lol)
But seriously, the "day 1 DLC" isn't an all encompassing thing. If we're talking content specifically excluded from the game like a whole chapter or whatever, then yeah that's a kick in the nuts. But we're talking about some stupid costmetic shit! WTF! Not to mention all these bombers have so obviously not even played the game (3 hours to beat it! HURP DERP!) when the average response I've seen is at least 5-6 hours. Not a long single player game obviously but at least they didn't charge $60 either!
Plus there's all the co-op.
Plus who knows if you can unlock some type of skins on your own when you beat things?
Regardless of where the movement started, I would say it's still a topic worth discussing particularly given the ingrained views about both Valve and Day 1 DLC on this site.drizztmainsword said:
However, you're complaining about something that is the absolute height of inconsequential. Okay, you might dislike the practice on principle, but you can't possibly think that it's actually an issue for enjoyment of the game, can you? They're a few totally pointless hats.Bill Bread said:
I'd still buy it. I mean, if it's on the disk when you buy it, it's a no loose situation. But if you have to buy it on the console...
The reason why I'm miffed about the store is not only because it was underhanded and came right the fuck out of nowhere but it's because Portal 2 is less than a day old/
I was willing to let it go for TF2 because of the fact that they've spent years updating the game for free and with no profit in return, I was willing to see them get paid for their hard work.
This is blatant money grabbing douchebaggery.
It doesn't really detract from my overall enjoyment of such a fantastic game but it's more the principle. We have to backlash the early beginnings of withholding content that should be on the disc I pre-ordered before it grows and becomes so much worse.
I hear everything in the Portal 2 store can be unlocked through normal gameplay..until someone can lend credence to that statement then I will remain slightly miffed but if I'm proved wrong I will withdraw my complaints.
I was willing to let it go for TF2 because of the fact that they've spent years updating the game for free and with no profit in return, I was willing to see them get paid for their hard work.
This is blatant money grabbing douchebaggery.
It doesn't really detract from my overall enjoyment of such a fantastic game but it's more the principle. We have to backlash the early beginnings of withholding content that should be on the disc I pre-ordered before it grows and becomes so much worse.
I hear everything in the Portal 2 store can be unlocked through normal gameplay..until someone can lend credence to that statement then I will remain slightly miffed but if I'm proved wrong I will withdraw my complaints.
YES. The very reason why "Day 1 DLC" deals are BULLSHIT. Agreed, mate.believer258 said:
EDIT: Doesn't anyone remember the days you'd get all this stuff for free? Play DMC3 again and watch all the outfits, missions, and difficulties you unlock.
"It's just fluff!" evolves into "It's just extra missions!" which in turn evolve into "It's only a few epilogue missions!"
For every excuse there's more leeway given to companies to screw you over more and more. I don't think a game should suffer because of this, but I do think the company responsible should be whacked on the nose with a rolled up news paper.
EDIT 2: And if it wasn't obvious, NO I DO NOT THINK PORTAL 2 SHOULD BE REVIEW BOMBED. If they are legitimate reviews, sure. Give them. If not, then of course I don't condone giving a bad review! You're marking the game, not the company. If the game isn't bad but the business strategy is then give a fair review but explain your anger at Valve or whoever. Don't tarnish the scores of a game just because the creators were dicks. Send angry letters (one per angry person please), mention it after the review, and tell others. Don't attack a game, especially a good game, because it's creators douche the doucheness of douchebag-town....if you believe that.
You do realize that out side the gaming industry, optional extras are not a new thing, right?GamingAwesome1 said:
Look at modern phones, you can buy all sorts of extra headsets, extra memory, other covers, hell; even ringtones.
When I buy a phone, I don't expect to get all the bluetooth products with it. I don't see why I should get the biggest memory card with it for free.
What they did in TF2 with the store is the exact same thing. I don't care when it came out (I know that it wasn't there at day one) but if you don't have a problem with what happened with TF2 why would you have a problem with this? There is no content here at all, and although I do agree that this is kind of a bullshit move coming from Valve, stupid extra multiplayer skins should NOT detract from peoples enjoyment of the game.Bill Bread said:
This isn't DLC, it's fucking skins. Get over it.
Those are more like external peripherals as opposed to being functions blocked from the core device.Ranorak said:
A more appropriate analogy would be certain applications on your phone being blocked until you pay a fee to have the block lifted, this DLC is way less intrusive than that, granted. But again, it's more principle than anything.
I was under the impression it was all cosmetic, and much would be unlocked by playing the game.
I'll be getting the game no matter what, but is this the new thing? The game does anything at all you dislike, even have cosmetic items and you declare it to be the worst game ever made?
Great, because exactly wat gaming needs is more hyperbole and hostility.
I'll be getting the game no matter what, but is this the new thing? The game does anything at all you dislike, even have cosmetic items and you declare it to be the worst game ever made?
Great, because exactly wat gaming needs is more hyperbole and hostility.
Guys, Irridium and I are agreeing on something. Us, who generally can't agree on anything! This is some lion and the lamb shit here. For goodness sakes, it's just hats! It's some silly things you can buy!Irridium said:
Is it pointless? OF COURSE IT IS. Is it useless? Hell no, especially once they bring in trading. (I'm more annoyed the trading wasn't up on Day 1 than that the hats are.) Have a loved one who you're playing co-op with? Buy 'em a hat. The little companion cube bobble hat is what I'm thinking. Is it silly? Yes. Do people do silly, but happy things for each other? Yes, yes they do.
That's what this is about. It's vanity purchasing. Want something fun and silly? Buy it. Don't wanna pay the money? Don't buy it. It's that. Damned. Simple.