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hipsters don't listen to hardcore, that would make them slightly tolerable. they find pitchfork.com approved music, and then say they listened to that band before it was all mainstream.GreatTeacherCAW said:
i concur with the general sentiment that things like call of duty aren't necessarily bad games, but it irks me that games like amnesia or portal will never get the same love, regardless how much the gaming community raise them on a pedestal .
Or that I regard the game as rated too highly by the community. That is what the term means.SillyBear said:
I think it is regarded too highly and can't see why so many people like it. I understand that different people have different opinions but when I see something that has the most lazily made campaigns I've ever seen, complete with making Call of Duty, a series that usually makes people horrified at war and what happens in it (The first 3 Call of Duties and the fifth were all in WW2, so that was inevitable. Call of Duty 4 did this with it's Nuke scene and Modern Warfare 2's shady deals under the table did this too.) and then glorifies it! Slow motion when you use the Dragons Breath shotgun, showing the enemy burst into flames, the almost movie like appearance at the Pentagon which sucked away the realism the game had and finally the ending, which might as well have held up a sign that said "America is fucking awesome."
The multiplayer was good, I will admit that, but then there is how sloppy the PS3 version was. Sometimes, I couldn't even fire my gun, because my character decided it didn't exist, and when I did try to fire, no matter the fire setting, I would get one shot, before he tucks it under the camera again. Not fun, and it gets worse when I quit the multiplayer to go play some Zombies (Which there isn't much fault in, I'll give you that, other than it's repetitive nature) and the game asks me to set all the starting settings again, such as brightness, TV position and mature content. Why? Because Treyarch decided that making everyone on Xbox happy was better than keeping everyone else happy too. Some might argue that it's because PS3 is harder to code for, but I've seen companies put out equal quality on both consoles in their games before, so what makes Treyarch different?
Oh, and an endless Corridor of respawning enemies is not fun. I didn't see it on COD4 or MW2, but my god, I saw it on COD3, WaW and Black Ops. It is not fun, and turns the experience sour when I am sucked out of game when I notice the stitches visible in the fabric.
Calumon: Why do people always get him mad about this? : (
I don't think so. There seem to be a lot of fans of popular games...and I've noticed that it's not that people hate the games themselves...more often than not, it's the fans of said games they they ***** about.
Shoggoth2588 said:Hipsters who hate everything? Not what I've seen on this site (the exception would arguably be Yahtzee). No, based on the articles and, reviews I've seen this is a site of people who love games of all kinds. The forums are full of people with preferences which favor platform/franchise A over B but this is definitely the most civil forum I've encountered (which is why I've been here for so long)
To summarize, I disagree with those people who claim we're hateful hipsters but I do understand the fact that...
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That is the reason why I finally joined this site after lurking and creeping the forums for alsmost a year. Everyone hs their holds their own opinions but hardly get in silly fanboy fights that you see everywhere else.
I like to think that most of the citizens of this site hardcore/elite/serious gamers that have standards.Jack and Calumon said:
So, we should measure how good something is by how many people like it? Or by our experience and judgement?SillyBear said:
True, overrated can be misused to say 'You enjoy this but I don't,'
But when it is used to mean 'This thing is inexplicably popular, relative to its quality,' or 'This is enjoyed and judged to be good by many, but it is not good because (insert reasoning here)' then I don't see a problem.
You shouldn't tell people what their opinions or tastes are, but you should certainly challenge why they enjoy it and why they believe it is good.
OT: I love the hilarious paradox this sentence presents:
i) The Escapist hates what is popular.
ii) The Escapist is (relatively) popular.
iii) Hate the Escapist because it is popular because it hates what is popular.
Only a moron, specifically designed by the greatest minds to be the biggest moron who ever lived could handle a paradox of that magnitude.
It's not that the Escapist community dislikes popular stuff. Mojang's win in MM and liking for Minecraft is proof enough.Aprilgold said:
That said, a more real issue is the elitism that a portion of the community seems to have. The attitude of, 'Our views on games/culture/ect/ect carry more weight than yours'. I've seen that far more often than just a general dislike of 'popular' stuff here.
No, you're wrong. Van Gogh is mainstream art. I don't think many people will say that he is simple. Therefor mainstream is not necessarily simple.Trolldor said: