TheKasp said:
I talked to many people over the last weeks about this topic. They always imply that GameStop is their only option. And there are still tons of people who seem to ignore internet as a way of distribition.
And right now I see in my city how GameStop, even though they give worse deals than the old specialised gaming stores and want more for their games, opened a second store and drive all the other stores out of buisness. GameStop, GAME and whatever are actually a retail monopoly, it just varies from place to place what they call themselfs.
I already posted in another thread how all these whiners could deal with Gamestop, since they, like you, seem to pretend it's the only option, and WITHOUT screwing over other customer. Stop selling them new games. If they didn't have pre-orders to whore out, then people wouldn't have as much incentive to sell them used games for "store credit" instead of a pittiance in cash. Perfectly legal, and doesn't require abusive DRM and circumventing consumer rights.
I never said that used games kill the industry. But used sales are damaging the industry without a doubt. If some guy at a GameStop sees me buying a game new and talks me into the used copy for 10 bucks less he costs the industry one purchase.
If the industry is being damaged, then that's their fault. As I said, EVERY other industry has been able to deal with it without crying about it. Every time someone buys a used car, he costs the industry one purchase. Every time someone finishes reading a book and gives it to a friend who might like it, the industry loses one purchase.
I repeat: SO WHAT?
And yeah, fuck the industry which delivers the game, lets support a bloodsucker like GameStop, GAME or whatever those assholes call themselfs.
You can keep obsessing over one company to your own detriment (assuming you're a gamer and not a shill for some game publisher), or you can look at the bigger picture that is being laid out for you.
Yeah, of course it's because of the internet. The internet gives the companies actually the ability to finally enforce the license areement. Durrrrrr.
First, I have NEVER seen a license on console video game. ESPECIALLY not before purchase. I have also never seen an "I agree" button that wasn't tied to a warning like "Hey, you're going into an internet game now, so if there are douchebags, it's not our fault. You've been warned." So calling it a "license agreement" is intellectually dishonest at best, and downright bullshit at worst.
Secondly, (and tangentally since, again, there is no EULA on console games) software EULAs are ALREADY bullshit in their own right. The only reason that they're able to get that sort of abusive shit to stick in the first place is because of a stupid court decision that some scumbag lawyer convinced a clueless judge or jury (can't remember which) that running software constituted making a copy of it, giving scummy software companies a way to do an end-run around the First Sale doctrine.
Lets not support the moneygrabber that deliver the games, lets support the moneygrabber that to jack shit for us instead! Yes, I just called that out. GameStop and aequivalents do jack shit for us. They give us bad deals, sell the games overpriced to give you actual ammunition for your stupid complaints and they lie. I've been lied to from GameStop employees to get to pay more money. I have no sympathy for brick&mortar stores, I have no sympathy for people supporting their business model. If you call me a troll for that, ok.
I called you a troll for your flawed logic, tunnel vision, and unconvincing apologism, not for your opinion. Personally, I'd love to see GameStop crater too, but from a bad business model. NOT from more abusive laws and tactics that reduce the value of MY property (that is, games I legally purchased.)
