For all those who don't know, a precognitive dream is when people dream of events that eventually happen. I have been having these dreams with alarming regularity and, while it is cool to dream something and then have it actually happen, it has made me very curious as to how is it possible that people can dream things that haven't happened yet. When talking to a friend, we discussed the idea that our perception of time as a species, being that it goes in a straight line, is wrong.(Yes, I suppose you could say that time wibbly wobbily, timey whimey stuff). So, what are your guys thoughts?
Precognitive dreams.
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This is pretty important. The human memory is kind of shitty and very much open to unconscious manipulations.Matthew94 said:
The last dream I had come true was that I would delete my Draw Something progress on accident. It's not terribly surprising that it actually happened. If anything, my dreams are just boring and pedestrian. Why can't the dream where I'm supreme ruler come true!?
Edit: Wow, no Minority Report jokes so far?
This came up a while ago.
And, yeah, the idea is total rubbish. The vast majority of your dreams you don't remember because there aren't odd coincidences, not surprising that a few of them turn out to reflect reality in some way.
Having said that, if I ever have to dodge the Spanish navy to lure a giant octupus monster into position so I can attack it with sharpened tree trunks slid down a steep hill into the water, I might reconsider, but only if mermaids are involved.
And, yeah, the idea is total rubbish. The vast majority of your dreams you don't remember because there aren't odd coincidences, not surprising that a few of them turn out to reflect reality in some way.
Having said that, if I ever have to dodge the Spanish navy to lure a giant octupus monster into position so I can attack it with sharpened tree trunks slid down a steep hill into the water, I might reconsider, but only if mermaids are involved.
Haven't had any of those. I've had deva jus but I'm not entirely convinced I've actually had the dream first, especially if I get the sensation that I've dreamt this before...a decade ago or something. I don't remember completely random dreams for that long.
I do however believe that our brains are capable of feats that we don't really understand that resemble magic.
I think that the brain is capable of processing some unbelievably subtle cues and producing some quite accurate predictions. Dreams that predict the future is one of them. I don't believe that it is entirely down to statistics (although it largely is), but the brain also has an ability to pick up on things on a subconscious level that we are incapable of processing consciously and make good results.
Whenever I state something like that, I am very aware of the fact that I'm about 2 steps away from talking about auras, vibrations or magic. So I think I should state that I don't believe in anything beyond the physical world, just that our brains are capable of some pretty incredible shit.
I think that the brain is capable of processing some unbelievably subtle cues and producing some quite accurate predictions. Dreams that predict the future is one of them. I don't believe that it is entirely down to statistics (although it largely is), but the brain also has an ability to pick up on things on a subconscious level that we are incapable of processing consciously and make good results.
Whenever I state something like that, I am very aware of the fact that I'm about 2 steps away from talking about auras, vibrations or magic. So I think I should state that I don't believe in anything beyond the physical world, just that our brains are capable of some pretty incredible shit.
That?s déjà vu, not precognition. Contrary to popular belief, they?re not actually the same thing. Look it up.
However, I don't want to sound like a spiritualist loony or anything, but it wouldn't be at all wrong to theorize that humans do have some kind of subconscious precognitive ability, like tapping into more of their brain power or something.
However, I don't want to sound like a spiritualist loony or anything, but it wouldn't be at all wrong to theorize that humans do have some kind of subconscious precognitive ability, like tapping into more of their brain power or something.
Personally, I've dreamt specific conversations that later happened, or things like being given something.Matthew94 said:
The twist is that in the dream, I always get in trouble, or people get angry or something, and then in reality, it's all good, but otherwise exactly the same.
Everything that happens is the result of an ongoing chain reaction. When people sleep, they're brains are taking all the data they assembled during their waking hours and are calculating likely outcomes and courses of action.
It's entirely possible that on some level what was going around gave you enough data for your brain to be able to calculate the proper outcomes in your sleep.
Nothing metaphysical here.
It's entirely possible that on some level what was going around gave you enough data for your brain to be able to calculate the proper outcomes in your sleep.
Nothing metaphysical here.
Yeah, pretty much. I'm not saying I believe in mystical foresight and all that jazz, I'm just stating factually something somewhat interesting that's happened to me.Mayhaps said:
"it has made me very curious as to how is it possible that people can dream things that haven't happened yet"
Easy, it simply doesn't happen and your assurances that you really did dream something before an event happened that wasn't at ALL incredibly general or mundane are meaningless, especially so if all this happens in retrospect.
Seriously, I know it sucks being a boring human being, but you have not seen the future. FFS kiddies, get a grip.
Easy, it simply doesn't happen and your assurances that you really did dream something before an event happened that wasn't at ALL incredibly general or mundane are meaningless, especially so if all this happens in retrospect.
Seriously, I know it sucks being a boring human being, but you have not seen the future. FFS kiddies, get a grip.
Have you been feeling anxious lately?
People say that when they think they are going to die their life flashes before thier eyes. This is in fact the brain trying to figure a way out of the situation. It dumps everything in your memory to try and help you survive.
This is the same thing as deja vu and precognitive dreams. You do something and your brain says look at this, its a similar occurrence. Of course when it's a memory it seems perfectly normal but when it's from a dream it can seem strange.
As an example I had a nightmare where I was swept down a river into a cave system. There was destroyed buildings and ghosts. I never thought about it again until I played Dark Souls and walked into the Londo area. My brain provided me with a previous memory as it recognized patterns and thought it would help me out.
Anxiety or stress can increase this memory production reaction.
Reading more of what you said about the people getting angry or having an extreme reaction to what you have said seems to back up this stress reaction.
People say that when they think they are going to die their life flashes before thier eyes. This is in fact the brain trying to figure a way out of the situation. It dumps everything in your memory to try and help you survive.
This is the same thing as deja vu and precognitive dreams. You do something and your brain says look at this, its a similar occurrence. Of course when it's a memory it seems perfectly normal but when it's from a dream it can seem strange.
As an example I had a nightmare where I was swept down a river into a cave system. There was destroyed buildings and ghosts. I never thought about it again until I played Dark Souls and walked into the Londo area. My brain provided me with a previous memory as it recognized patterns and thought it would help me out.
Anxiety or stress can increase this memory production reaction.
Reading more of what you said about the people getting angry or having an extreme reaction to what you have said seems to back up this stress reaction.
Yeah, you don't need to rant. I was just saying it was something interesting that I didn't really understand. If that's the reason, that's the reason. Now chill out.RazadaMk2 said:
There is no evidence that precognitive dreams are real. And a lot of times that people go "that happened in my dream last night" they neglect to mention that about 100 different things that didn't occur in real life also happened in that dream that they either neglected to mention or forget about. So even if something occurred in your dream that was possible enough to occur in real life, it wasn't because you are partially psychic, it was because what you dreamt was probably a pretty mundane thing. [footnote]I used to think I was having precognitive dreams when I was in high school, but then I realized that it was because my high school life was incredibly monotonous.[/footnote]
So as others pointed out, it is probably confirmation bias mixed with an malleable/imperfect memory of your dream. Or you were consciously trying to make something you dreamt about occur (i.e. steering a conversation into a conversation you had in a dream), in which case it shouldn't be surprising if it happened.
So as others pointed out, it is probably confirmation bias mixed with an malleable/imperfect memory of your dream. Or you were consciously trying to make something you dreamt about occur (i.e. steering a conversation into a conversation you had in a dream), in which case it shouldn't be surprising if it happened.
Isn't dreaming about unconscious mind dumps where you brain tries to make sense of shit you've already seen?