I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.
I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
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theflyingpeanut said:
Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.
Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.
Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.
Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.
And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.
I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.
English, therefore subject to hundred of unfunny stereotypes mostly originating from America. French and Aussies aren't big fans of us either.
Here's the weirdest thing about it though, a lot of English people prejudise (sp?) against themselves. In the area of London I'm from, nearly everybody doesn't admit they're English. They are "irish" or "turkish" despit their great grandparents being the last people in their family to even see these so called coutries of origin. My mum is Italian and my Dad and I are offically Australian, but I've live in the UK most of my life, and I refer to myself as English
I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.
I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
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theflyingpeanut said:
Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.
Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.
Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.
Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.
And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.
I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.
I lived in Carlisle for 4 years, arguably the most anti Scottish city in England, and Glasgow for 2, and I have to say the Scots are far more anti-English than vice versa. It's understandable considering the history, but in nearly every part of the country your accent wont change the way people treat you. In fact, from Manchester south, it works in your favour.
As for "honouring the currency", that's a stupid thing to say. An extremely high majority vote SNP and are British seperatist. People are welcome to practice their own language as well. Look how well it schemes have launched in Wales and Cornwall. If you feel strongly about that, you should work with it and encourage it. I for one would back you, because history and heritage is very important
I get that, too, in Canada, except I was born here and I'm SWISS. Pisses me off to no end. Other questions are usually limited to, "Do you like cheeeeese!?" or "DOZ UR GRAMPA MAKE CLOKZ?" I don't see how it's different from asking a black person if all they eat is fried chicken or if THEIR grandfather was a slave. It's equally offensive.
Also, I'm 19 years old. That means that shopkeepers get a carte blanche to treat me like I'm either shoplifting, rude, not interested anyways, or going to cause a ruckus. Not all shopkeepers, but it does annoy me.
If it interests you, my prejudice against the Swiss is a different kind...
I think you've all been too neautral for TOO LONG. You're trying to avert attention, because you're PLANNING SOMETHING
ADMIT IT, SWITZERLAND IS BUILDING THE BOMB!!!!
*Cough*
OT: White, English, in the suburbs...
nope!
Although, I get a bit of friendly stick for my Scottish heritage, though in actual fact, my Scottishness actually attracts more attention from Scottish Nationalists, who annoy me to no end with their arguments. I think independence is a good idea, eventually, but on a point-by-point argument, the ideas they have and the understanding they have of the political system/history/basic common sense is appalling
I guess assumptions that women naturally are better at certain things and so are men. I reckon we see that all the time but it's so insidious that people don't really see it as prejudice, just what's "natural".
I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.
I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
EDIT:
theflyingpeanut said:
Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.
Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.
Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.
Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.
And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.
I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.
Yea I kinda bypassed that but what you have to understand is that it still works both ways, I couldn't blame anyone for what their ancestors did but it did happen and there is a resentment of that that exists outside of politics or even any real understanding.
My 10 year old brother was happy that England got knocked out of the world cup but couldn't put together any real reason why when I asked him, it was simply because his friends, family and their/our friends/family felt the same way. Its an ingrained mindset right or wrong and it exists on both sides.
I read this study on cbc a while back, apparently our brains are prejudiced as well.
"People are better at recognizing faces of their own race than faces
of other races1?3. The same-race advantage has been demonstrated
with behavioral studies involving a wide variety of protocols,
face stimuli, participants and cultural settings."
http://dmschreiber.ucsd.edu/Teacher/SubstantiveTeachingAreas/CoursesTaught/Spring2008/192/Readings/Golby%20et%20al%202001.pdf (sorry, it is a PDF)
Yep, I've faced some prejudice before. You have no clue how many times I've been called a "gay jew." Hell, I've even been accused of being racist for the most bullshit reasons.
A couple of conservatives at my high school called me gay because I participated in a pro-LGBT event (Day of Silence), and a few people dislike me because I am a Socialist agnostic, but that is a very small number of people.
I can definitely imagine that would happen in Texas. At least in the rural parts. To be honest, I've never watched a rugby game so I wouldn't know how it is.
I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.
I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
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theflyingpeanut said:
Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.
Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.
Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.
Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.
And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.
I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.
I lived in Carlisle for 4 years, arguably the most anti Scottish city in England, and Glasgow for 2, and I have to say the Scots are far more anti-English than vice versa. It's understandable considering the history, but in nearly every part of the country your accent wont change the way people treat you. In fact, from Manchester south, it works in your favour.
As for "honouring the currency", that's a stupid thing to say. An extremely high majority vote SNP and are British seperatist. People are welcome to practice their own language as well. Look how well it schemes have launched in Wales and Cornwall. If you feel strongly about that, you should work with it and encourage it. I for one would back you, because history and heritage is very important
The first paragraph is an opinion and I cant really argue that suffice to say it doesn't match my own experience but then it wouldn't anyway.
The second on the other hand, regardless of how people vote we are still at this time part of the UK so why do I go through hell trying to use Scottish notes south of the border?
Finally, trying to bring back an almost dead language is tricky at best but I personally do what I can when I can to aid the process.
The first paragraph is an opinion and I cant really argue that suffice to say it doesn't match my own experience but then it wouldn't anyway.
The second on the other hand, regardless of how people vote we are still at this time part of the UK so why do I go through hell trying to use Scottish notes south of the border?
Finally, trying to bring back an almost dead language is tricky at best but I personally do what I can when I can to aid the process.
To be honest there are 2 big reasons as to why the note are harder to spend in England. Firstly, they are just rarer. There are a lot less of them percentage wise than there are English. The second reason is the variety. Every bank in Scotland has a design, whereas in England, only the Bank of England designs and releases the note. Which means that for an English cashier, anyone could pass off a fake Scottish note, or an out of date one, and they wouldn't be any the wiser. When I was working in Carlisle, where there was a lot of people coming down or through from Scotland, it took me well over a year to get used to them and understand all of them, and it was my job. Throw in the occasional northern Irish note, and you go to bed with a headache!
It would be a lot easier if there was a single printed currency, but that would take away the individuality of the other countries in the United Kingdom, and in my opinion, that isn't right. I'd also like to take this moment to say that I love the Scottish! I go up there whenever I ahve the opportunity, it's a beautiful land, and the people are as decent as you'll meet anywhere.
Oh, and I respect the language thing, and I hope it goes well. Anti-country sentiment is ridiculous to me. Where you are born is a coincidence of birth, something you have zero control over. Hating someone for where they are from is stupid, and I enjoy knocking peoples head together when I hear them doing it!
Cheers for giving me a decnet response man, and not getting arsey with my potentially hostile-sounding message earlier
when certain people find out i dont believe in god. i get the oh no you must accept jesus into your heart or the ill pray for you... then on top of that i keep my sexuality on the down low
Well because i don't have a girlfriend and because i don't like Football im gay. And those calling me gay because of these reasons don't have girlfriends either. Wierd how that works
I think that's more hazardous stupidity than prejudice. But yes, because my girlfriend is Scottish I occasionally get mocked by them for my pronunciation.
I want you to think about that for a second: Scottish people, mocking an English person, for their pronunciation of English words. It's as stupid as it sounds.
EDIT:
theflyingpeanut said:
Well, other than the occasional "English bastard", "Go home", and violence which used to be directed towards me, no. It's not always pleasant sounding English in Scotland.
Yea disregard the years of anti-Scottish prejudice to the extent of trying to drive out the native language and it does seem a bit stupid.
Yes there is prejudice in Scotland towards the English but I would argue you get off relatively lightly compared to a Scot south of the border, at least we honour your currency.
Yes but that's the thing: I'm an 18 year old guy who's been born into the 21st century...I haven't done anything to any group of people. And the people I'm talking about here are around the age of 16. Politics comes nowhere into it.
And I'm a 20 year old guy, I haven't done anything to any group of people. But I get abuse south of the border because of my accent. Two sides, same coin.
I'm not 100% that you're getting my point there. You spoke about 'the years of anti-Scottish prejudice' but I myself and the people concerned with this aren't in the right kind of time for it to be a politically based thing.
Yea I kinda bypassed that but what you have to understand is that it still works both ways, I couldn't blame anyone for what their ancestors did but it did happen and there is a resentment of that that exists outside of politics or even any real understanding.
My 10 year old brother was happy that England got knocked out of the world cup but couldn't put together any real reason why when I asked him, it was simply because his friends, family and their/our friends/family felt the same way. Its an ingrained mindset right or wrong and it exists on both sides.
No, very true. It kind of becomes a 'that's just the way it is' kind of mindset, doesn't it.
You know, my girlfriend and her friends are the same. She had to explain that she has nothing against the English and doesn't care that I am. Her only reasoning was 'I'm Scottish, it's genetic'.
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