professional gamers are "elitest" jerks?

[D_987]

street fighter is of no concern to me and he is one pro jerkwad out of the community a very bad community may i say. and i wouldnt doubt that he is not only an ass ingame but also in real life even if you had gotten to know him. my point is cevo players arent like these kids we play for fun and the fact that we could win money is just a plus and its more of excitement that you could place first than omg i could win moneys.

You do realize that by typing in this manner (Its incredibly difficult to read) your just promoting the whole "pro gamers are idiots" kind of hate. Well done you.

Second of all I would like to point out your use of the word "kid". Why is that? I never have worked out why people call whole communities "kids" when they are primarily made up of adults, but oh well.

Anyway, my first point is simple:

CEVO does not make up the whole pro community - until this post I'd never heard of it - besides which it has a small number of ladders and therefore plays only a small number of games. Compared with MLG, this CEVO doesn't seem to be particularly big, and as such your not a majority. You even admit in your reply that there are large communities that are "bad" - therefore the majority are jerks - hence the hate.

Secondarily:

I don't believe your a "professional", because why on earth, when your competing for a paycheck, would you treat it as "fun"? Do you have a real job?

Thirdly:

I lied, there is no third point - you don't make enough sense in that post for me to comment further.

 

[Weaver]

Oh I thought this was gonna be about Fatal1ty and the few PMS showgirls who get all the money and the gamers like that.. Gamebattles isn't exactly pro because it's just full of people who think they'll be the next MLG star. I wouldn't class winning at LAN or MLG as pro either.

Knowing where to go and what to do and setting out a route for the map doesn't make you an elitist, it means you've made the effort to become good at it. So what if you're better than they are. Who cares?

That's basically my attitude as well, but for some reason people really DO care if they're better than someone at something. It's funny that people who are competing in an e-sport ladder are considering themselves professional.

If OP wants to know why competitive players are considered "elitist" it's because the game is always ultra competitive to them. They play to win and not to have fun. So if you're just starting out and you land in game with one of these guys, they'll just rage quit in a minute cause you're "such a noob".

This is a generalization, but the attitude some of them emit is just so overpoweringly jack-asstic it makes me wish I could punch them through the internet. No one cares how great you are and no one wants to hear it. It's one thing if you're in a ranked battle, and another if you're just on a public server. Chill the fuck out.

 

[squid5580]

Whoo whoo I get to be the first one to point out THIS IS THE INTERNET we are talking about here. You know that little invisible thing that gives people the ability to say whatever they want without consequence.

Further more how can anyone sit there and say 1 little corner of the interweb is full of nice helpful genuinely good people? Just like with every other part of the internet it takes all types to make. Do I think all "pro" gamers are elitist jerks? No. Do I think there are some "pro" gamers who are? Odds are yes there is. Just like there will be some who it is thier first time holding a controller. And those who fall inbetween. They can all be elitist jerks. Or they could be nice. Or fall somewhere in the middle.

And belonging to a website that tracks your stats does not a pro make. Nor does being good at a game.

 

[Korey Von Doom]

The fact that they think having skill in a pointless activity makes them something special is what makes them pathetic.

An athlete at least has athletic skill; you dopes can push buttons really fast.

Umm this topic is about PRO Gamers not just elites in general, damn sure is pointless to play a video game and get paid for it. Its a hobby taken to the next level, personally I'd jump at the chance to play for money, I'm pretty good, but I'm USUALLY not a jerk about it.

Remember though, people who play for money... it's their JOB. Take fatal1ty for instance, he picks a game up the day it comes out and decides he wants to compete in it. He then trains 8-12 hours a day playing nothing but that game. He has no part time job, gaming is it. Gaming is his source of income. It isn't fun anymore, it's a job. This is a professional gamer. If you can compete with them... good luck

I don't think I could simply cause I don't resort to cheap tactics, technically getting any worthwhile job at this time would be good.

 

[Gxas]

all of these experiences seem to be outside cevo which has 0 tolerance for unsportsman like conduct. which if found guilty of will overturn a match you have played. i cant stress this enough that the cevo league isnt like mlg or tcg our top teams are good sports as long as you dont provoke them. and if you do then you may as well ask for it >.>. and how can we claim not to be professional have you looked up the definition? We play to win were good at the game and yes we do have skill. if theres something you can do better than someone else can then you have skill. simply put your bad experiences are with bad leagues. join #l4dscrim in gamesurge on mirc youl see what i mean. we dont try to make a living off it we all have jobs... or go to college or do something other than play games all day. i know half of the top cevo players personally they DO have lives,girlfriends/boyfriends,family and things they hold above gaming. unlike the mlg losers who leech off their parents. cevo IS about fun i didnt even get into the playoffs this round because my team disbanded but it was still alot of fun and we only had one game of bad conduct(ie enemy team was trying to talk shit). its fun and really if you have some friends to do it with try it. or if you just want to get better and your HUMBLE and ASK for tips most likely they will be very kind and willing to help most likely that is. it all depends on the person as someone posted. the same thing happens in real life theres people who are kind and level headed and theres people who are absolute jerks. and if anything badmouthing them here after they did the same to you seems to be hypocritical.

And here is where I stopped reading the thread as I realized the subtle advertising going on.

 

[Conqueror Kenny]

The more I read the post from the OP the more I think he isn't even trying to make a point. From the start this already sounded like advertising for "cevo" (whatever that is).
The fact he called an entire community bad, and every single player in that community bad people. It's ironic that he belongs to such a great community, when he is insulting thousands of people's playing and personality when he's never seen them play or met them.

Edit: Damn Ninjas

 

[squid5580]

The more I read the post from the OP the more I think he isn't even trying to make a point. From the start this already sounded like advertising for "cevo" (whatever that is).
The fact he called an entire community bad, and every single player in that community bad people. It's ironic that he belongs to such a great community, when he is insulting thousands of people's playing and personality when he's never seen them play or met them.

Edit: Damn Ninjas

I thought the point of the OP was "Quit calling us names guys. It hurts our feelings." And then became some rant on stereotyping the "pros" (all the while stereotyping the "pros")

 

[Weaver]

Well, whatever happened this thread really ran out of steam.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I used to be a member of one of the super elite WoW guilds in the US called Blood Legion (you can look it up on the front page of wowprogress.com). After playing at their level for a long enough time I realized that I had little to no tolerance for "newbie gameplay." It was either balls-to-the-wall-play-to-win-right-now or GTFO AND STOP WASTING MY TIME. And yes, elitism is a big part of it. When I play games, I usually play to win. It really starts to get my ire up when I explain to someone exactly what needs to happen and exactly when it needs to happen in order to win, and then they blatantly disregard my instructions and cause a massive fuckup that wastes time and loses it for the rest of the team.

For me, this is particularly bad when it comes to raid bosses, because after killing a boss flawlessly 50 times in a row to suddenly have a devastating wipe because Gimpy McRetardson wanted to "do his own thing."

The Immortal title in WoW is the very definition of elitist frustration.

Interesting aside, there actually is a high ranking WoW guild called "Elitist Jerks."

Wow.. I hope I never have you on my team.

Talk about a buzzkiller.

Have you any idea how annoying, arrogant and off putting it is to have someone barking orders at you in an online game?

 

[Zer_]

The fact that they think having skill in a pointless activity makes them something special is what makes them pathetic.

An athlete at least has athletic skill; you dopes can push buttons really fast.

Okay this is just a spawn of pure ignorance. Competitive gaming on the highest level is an achievement like any other. I play Quake III a lot... I play it hard, and I play it fast. I don't really care if I lose when nothing is really on the line. If you have some cock getting angry because he lost on a PUG, then he needs to fuck right off. When there's prize money at stake, then yes I can understand being a bit irritated when you lose.

Personally, I'll only get pissed when I know that my own performance isn't at the level it should be. I like to consider myself quite skilled at Quake, but while I can definitely kick ass, I know that my inconsistency is my achilles heel. It is the one thing that has prevented my from competing on a professional level in fact. Trying to get passed my inconsistency has been a huge struggle for me and I try to outdo myself every day while getting over the inconsistency. I try to discover techniques to ensure that I am always at the top of my game.

I've participated in local tournaments for Quake 3 CTF and TDM, although I've never broken through to the international level. If you do not understand what it is to compete on the higher levels, then do not make assumptions about it. If you're too closed minded to at least acknowledge that a professional gamer has legitimately achieved something in life then you can fuck off.

Competing on a higher level with any videogame requires quick reflexes, huge amounts of hand-eye co-ordination and it requires some acute knowledge of the game you are playing so you may better use the game mechanics to your advantage.

 

[Gigaguy64]

I have nothing against pro players. What I dont like are people who think they are pro. Case in point, myself and a few freinds decided to play CoD:WaW. Our team consisted of a rank 50 3rd prestige (me, Im not that great), a rank 45 1st prestige(my freind Kevin, better than me), a rank 20, and a rank 8. We were pitted against a team of 4 rank 65 10th prestiges. After a stressful and hard fought battle we win, much to the dismay of the other team. Not only did they call us n00bs and haxors, but rubbed our noses in their K/D spreads, none of which were better than my freind Kevins. I should also point out that none of us were using weapons that were considered noobish. Thats why I hate "pros," even if they're people my age they still end up sounding like 5 year olds when they lose.

PREACH IT!!

its really only a discredit to your self if you lose and respond with cussing and trash talk.
go pratice.
the real jerks are the one's ( good or poor players ) who quit if they loose.
on Bleach: Dark Souls, like many other nintendo games, when you play a ranked battle you get points at the end of the fight. if you win you get some, and points get taken away if you loose.
i cant stand it when i get up agenst a high ranked player who wins a few times and then when i win they cut the connection so i cant get my points.
they loose half of their points and their red number (number of Quits) increses.
but it makes me so angry when i keep getting the same person and they continue to quit.
especaly when the points i would of gotten would of upped my rank a lot.
sigh.....
I truly think that if you are a elite or even just a good player, that you should be an example of good, fun, game play.

 

[Jumplion]

I don't care about pro gamers that much, they can do what they like.

My thoughts on "professional gaming" and the like is that if you can earn money doing something you love, whether it's poker, chess, soccer, fly fishing, curling, or any other excuse for a "sport" nowadays, then go for it, more power to you for earning money on something you love.

I don't see why video games can't be considered a "sport", hell DDR is considered a sport in Norway. We have chess, poker, black jack, curling, hell even bass fishing as sports, why can't video games be the same? It's just playing in a more serious manner, just like any other "professional sport".

 

[jh322]

to be professional have you looked up the definition? We play to win were good at the game and yes we do have skill. if theres something you can do better than someone else can then you have skill. we dont try to make a living off it we all have jobs... or go to college or do something other than play games all day.

You don't understand the definition of professional. Sorry, but if I had some sort of banner, sticker, or certificate for MOST STUPID ESCAPIST THREAD EVER I'd use it here. Go away, leave the website I love alone. Plase.

The reason I'm being so abusive here is the same reason I'm reporting you. I geniuinely think, like several other posters, that you're trying to subtly advertise "cevo".

 

[Zer_]

*snip for space*

You haven't legitimately achieved anything. You've pushed buttons faster than the other guy. When you can run a four-minute mile, run a marathon or you've taken part in a triathlon or decathlon, get back to me.

I'm a gamer, and a pretty involved one, but I'm never going to pretend it makes me anything special.

Just because I achieved something doesn't mean I'm special, they are two completely different things. But hey I got a sponsorship deal for a year, and got some free computer gear out of my gaming... So yeah, I can easily say I've achieved something. Yet I digress.

How is it different from learning to program? Someone who programs a simple AI may not make money off of it, but it doesn't change the fact that he achieved in creating a functional AI program. You can't go and say the guy wasted his time, that's just being a prick.

 

[Merteg]

No group is only jerks, as being a jerk is subjective.

I have went to a couple of tournaments and lot's of people were nice. That is till I owned them. Then they.... were still pretty nice.

Of course, those were low-key tournaments.

 

[Jirlond]

I don't get involved - I play games for fun, console gaming and CCG gaming. Most pro's I have ever played with are dicks who only care about winning and then claim that I cheat if I beat them because I am not a "pro".

 

[Da_Schwartz]

Am i the only person that gets humbled or even amused while getting "Pwned" by someone lightyears better then me at a videogame? There's nothing to take personal. It's almost like looking back at a highschool fight 15 years later and being like damn i got my ass kicked lol. Hey you win some you lose some. Thats life. I wouldn't expect myself to be able to hit off a major league pitcher either. With success comes confidence which rides a fine line with arrogance. So know your role and play the damn game. Some people have devoted alot of hard work and energy into their craft, gaming or not and deserve the right to gloat sometimes.