Sniperyeti said:
Warachia said:
You still didn't answer the question, of all people, "Why David would infect Holloway?"
Why not some random crew member? And I think you are putting too little importance on them, if it wasn't for them they never would have been on the planet in the first place, and it wouldn't be too hard to see what the liquid would do to human blood just by testing it in a lab, also why did the blonde (forget her name) immediately decide to burn the one guy alive? They know he's sick, take him into sickbay, find out what's wrong, one of my favourite moments was the surgery scene, it was so dumb that the blonde woman had a surgery machine in her room that was apparently only calibrated for males, or she just forgot to switch it.
A bigger problem for me was the final section of the movie, David thinks the alien is going to destroy earth why? There was that galaxy map, but David is the one who selected earth from the map in the first place, I thought the alien woke up, saw something he didn't know in front of him, realized everyone he knew was dead, and wanted to go home.
The funniest bit was the end of the movie, they decide to head to the alien planet, to find out why they want humanity dead, aside from the fact that they have no evidence that the aliens want humanity dead, what do they expect to happen to them when they get there? If the aliens want humanity dead, they'd kill them on sight, and if they didn't want humanity dead, then they'd probably kill or imprison them when they learned what they did to the engineer.
Hmm, I don't think you looked at either the film or my post very closely my friend. Let me try and explain my point of view on some of these issues for you.
Why would David infect Holloway?
Because Holloway has treated David like trash for the entire film for apparently no reason, and David clearly resents him for it. Holloway is the 'loose cannon' taking his helmet off, disregarding other's instructions and drinking heavily (at various seperate parts of the film) making him the prime candidate for an 'accident'. David sees an opportunity to experiment on Holloway so goes ahead and takes it - it corresponds to his instructions, gives him personal satisfaction and comes with the 'permission' of Holloway himself ("how far would you go" etc).
"Like trash"? You have some very odd standards if you think he treats him like garbage, sure he wasn't kind to David, but he never abused David, he was mostly apathetic towards David, "we built you because we could" he didn't care whether or not David was there or what he did.
Why not some random crew member?
In effect, Holloway was a random crew member. Sure he's a lead in the film until his death, but of what real use is he? Your claim that 'if it wasn't for them they'd never be there in the first place' is purely emotive - so they were going to build a spaceship themselves? This is Weyland Corp's show, and they're the mascots.
So let's look at the science crew on board, you have the geologist, who won't help you with studying the aliens, you have the biologist, who would be great for studying how the aliens work but can't tell you how they talk or how their machines work, then there are the archaeologists, who could possibly tell you how the aliens talk and how their machines work, you could argue the David could have replaced one if not both, but he only learned how their machines/language works by studying their theories, if something went wrong, then the people you would want alive are the archaeologists, because they could figure out what they got wrong and try to fix it.
Why did 'the blonde' burn someone alive?
Because he was clearly heavily infected with an alien subject and dying, and she would not allow quarantine procedures to be breached in allowing him onto the ship. Welcome to sci-fi horror movies, ref. Alien for what happens when people ARE allowed on against orders.
How would she know he was infected with an alien subject (he wasn't, his cells were being changed) and dying? There are so many viruses and bacteria on another planet that your immune system would not be familiar with. If you just kill anyone who shows any symptoms then you aren't going to figure out how to cure it if it happens to you, and you will not learn anything new from studying its effects on human cells (which should have been like Christmas to David). It seemed to me to be a case where a character was an asshole/idiot without any other justification.
Incidentally, in alien (in the context of the movie) they did the smart thing, bringing the guy back onboard for study, killing him would have been the dumbest possible thing they could do, they wouldn't learn anything, they wouldn't know what to do if this happened to them, and they wouldn't know what they should do if there were other creatures like this in the galaxy.
"it was so dumb that the blonde woman had a surgery machine in her room that was apparently only calibrated for males, or she just forgot to switch it"
Yeah, it's almost as if there was a frail, high value male cryogenically frozen on the ship who might need some very expensive medical attention at some point.
Fair point.
Why does David think the alien is going to destroy Earth?
The Alien places the 'Earth ball' into some sort of targetting computer, and begins to try and lift off. Given that the ship is a biological doomsday-device carrier that was only stopped from departing for Earth by an outbreak of it's own cargo thousands of years ago, I suspect the Promethean didn't just "want to go home". Also note that David has an understanding of the machine's workings not represented to the audience (he uses the flute, brings a Promethean out of hyper-sleep etc), so for all we know his disembodied head could have seen what the alien was programming and recognised the instructions.
He figures out it's going to destroy earth before waking the alien up, that's why he tells the others who decide to wake up the alien anyway, that's what I was referring to, which makes no sense, when he brought up the galaxy map he's the one who selected earth.
Why do they head to the Promethean home planet?
Well to address your first sub-issue, ref above for my opinion that yes they did have evidence the Prometheans had planned to wipe out life on Earth from a very long time ago. The main character would have a variety of reasons for not wanting to return to Earth, the most obvious being the extremely dangerous cargo those ships are carrying. Where to go from there except to the alien home planet? With a ship carrying life-eradication weapons of that type, she might even pose a threat - or could travel there only to find the entire race had died out a long time ago.
There's a variety of reasons not to go to earth, but not any good ones for going to their home planet, deciding to take their cargo just in case she wants to kill all of them makes her as bad as the engineer.
