Prostitution: immoral or in demand

[ramboondiea]

What? Paying for sex is ILLEGAL. Isnt it? You can call it "Escorting" or "Massage parlour" But that is illegal....

OP; If you want to pay for sexy time, go ahead, i wont stop you. I'd do it if i saw a realllllly beautiful women.

no paying for sex is legal, the only law against it is paying for sex with someone being forced to comply (human sex trafficking) and its only been that way since 2009

the things that are illegal are advertising sex, soliciting, kerb crawling, and beckoning from within a house

 

[HyenaThePirate]

Isn't prostitution legal in Las Vegas or Nevada? They don't seem to have a problem, and their prostitutes have to undergo strict mandates and testing for disease if I recall correctly.
Problem is, all those "clean" prostitutes raise the price for *ahem* service considerably. I've never been so hard up for sex that I'd drop a grand or two for what amounts to 10 minutes of pleasure...

 

[ramboondiea]

Sex slavery=bad

Sex working=fine, potentially liberating

Unfortunately, it's hard to legislate, so it's generally banned on grounds of safety etc. Which doesn't necessarily work

actually it would be very easy to legislative, but its an unwillingness, no political party wants to touch the subject, atleast not possibility of legitimising it, its why so many tolerance and management zones proposals are turned down

 

[Sneeze]

I can't see why it's illegal, it's completely stupid. It's argued it's because it's "dangerous" which is bullshit, it's only dangerous because it's illegal. If it was run by a legit legal business with regular doctors checks to prevent STDs, enforce contraception, have the deed done in a safer location other than a car seat by a lake, heck search all clients when they book to be extra safe. There really isn't a real argument for it to be illegal other than the "objectification" of women (how is porn different) and lets just disregard male prostitutes exist with that one...

 

[Gaderael]

George Carlin said it best. "Selling's legal. Fucking's legal. Why isn't selling Fucking legal?!"

If it's two or more consenting adults, and they work out some sort of financial agreement, then it is none of my business. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it, and leave your religious beliefs out of it (this is where most folk who condemn prostitution get there ire for the craft).

Making it legl would slowly remove the stigma of paying for sex, and I think that we'll see a further decline in rapes, sexual assault, and other crimes of a sexual nature if we do this.

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

There's two types of morality:
External morality (stuff that affects others)
Personal morality (either affects the individual only, or affects multiple people, but with their consent)

Personal morality shouldn't be worked into legislation. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it. The prostitutes will get better treatment for what they're already doing, and we get tax revenue. Everyone wins.

 

[mjp1701]

i think that if it was made legal and monitered and regulated well it would help cut down on the sex slave trade as it would give the criminals who form these slave trades less places to hide and cut down on the demand for illegal sex trafficing as well as making sure that those who become prostitutes are not doing it because they have to by force or other means . also if it is monitered and controlled it can provide a safe and clean environment for both the sex workers and their customers as for the stigma in this country that comes with pepole going to prostitutes i think is unfair if someone wants to pay for sex then let them as long as nobody is being vitimised or hurt and its all safe and clean for all partys involved whats the problem . i think that if it was legalised and properly monitered it would be a huge blow to organised crime which is allways a good thing . hope that made sence .

 

[templargunman]

The system we have now in the U.S. is the best. Escort services allow men to take attractive women on dates, and women have the choice to sleep with the men, but they can't be forced. If prostitution was legal, even more women who couldn't make ends meet would turn to prostitution, and it wouldn't really be by choice, but because they would need the money they would be far more likely to do it if it was legal.

 

[Sikachu]

hey escapist just a little question,

im in the middle of a assignment on prostitution for my university course, and all my readings on theories talk heavily of public perceptions, decisions, and opinions as a bases of a lot of arguments.

so i thought id take a little consensus of what your opinion on prostitution is and how you think it should be dealt with.

so my questions are;what are your feelings on prostitution?. why do you think people become prostitutes?. id you think there should be harsher punishments in place? should it be legitimised as a business opposition. what your opinion on managed and tolerance zones?

also a little side note, here in the UK, prostitution is technically not illegal, just the things associated with it.

For someone who appears to be a native speaker of the language, your English is inexcusably bad. If you want people to bother giving you useful responses, put a little effort into making your post clear and easy-to-read.

Prostitution, in my opinion, should be treated no differently to any other act where people sell their bodies to be disposed with by other people. In other words I refuse to pretend there's a difference between taking a cock for money and breaking your back working in a mine for it. Neither are something I would usually do by choice, and so incentivising me to do so financially seems equally exploitative either way.

Human trafficking/slavery is really where my objections to prostitution lie. But I don't think that these HAVE to be a feature of a well-implemented sex industry (see Nevada as an example of this rather than Amsterdam, which is a terrible example).

 

[LaughingAtlas]

I've always hated prostitutes, I often go out of my way to do them harm in any game in which they appear. Thing is, I don't quite understand why. Something seems inherently wrong with licentious nightwalkers making a mockery of love, but really, so do "wholesome" relationships, as far as I've seen.

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I'm pretty sure that romance is dead, that most couples don't realize that people change as they age and they may not still love who their partner's become a decade or so later, the grand joke that is love between a man and a woman. (for lack of better words, no discrimination intended) It seems a harlot is at least honest, and, in a way, purer in his/her intentions that the average fornication junkie.
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So, responding to a natural human urge by soliciting the help of a prostitute and paying them for their service? Probably better for the soul (if we have them) than an actual relationship. Besides, I've heard a few tales about people using whores as cheap psychiatrists, some with positive results.

EDIT: Forgot this bit, choosing to sell your body seems fine, that sex slave shit is most certainly a problem. (along with any other forced servitude)

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

If it's a personal choice, not forced, it's fine. It should be legitimized as a business mostly because that way, they can get health check ups without lying and get them more often.

It's one of the oldest jobs in the world and let's be honest, sometimes they're more available.

this by far. its doing something perfectly legal, and getting paid for it, which i don't see the problem with.

but once again, it must be of free will and not forced/etc..

granted..i would not dare touch a prostitute, i don't have a single problem with them actually being there and earning a living.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Legalize it. And then tax the fuck out of it.

Pun intended.

 

[Sim4500]

The system we have now in the U.S. is the best. Escort services allow men to take attractive women on dates, and women have the choice to sleep with the men, but they can't be forced.

I don't think that's how it works. That might be what escort services write on their websites, but in reality it's just like every other escort service in the world: Men don't pay just for spending time with a girl, they pay for sex. The women either takes the money and fucks the customer or turns on her heels and goes home if she doesn't want to. (unless there is a pimp who beats her for not making money.)

As far is I understand it, escort services and private escorts are not legal in the US.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

so my questions are;what are your feelings on prostitution?. why do you think people become prostitutes?. id you think there should be harsher punishments in place? should it be legitimised as a business opposition. what your opinion on managed and tolerance zones?

I have no problem with prostitution IN THEORY.

The problem is, it's rare that prostitution is done well. Both Nevada and Germany have difficulties monitoring conditions and making sure that prostitutes are treated fairly and given proper wages.

Now, if it were legalized and Unionized, with fair representation that put the power into the hands of the women (and men) working as prostitutes, then I'd be all for it.

The likelihood of that actually happening? Very very low. **sigh**

 

[ramboondiea]

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For someone who appears to be a native speaker of the language, your English is inexcusably bad. If you want people to bother giving you useful responses, put a little effort into making your post clear and easy-to-read.

Prostitution, in my opinion, should be treated no differently to any other act where people sell their bodies to be disposed with by other people. In other words I refuse to pretend there's a difference between taking a cock for money and breaking your back working in a mine for it. Neither are something I would usually do by choice, and so incentivising me to do so financially seems equally exploitative either way.

Human trafficking/slavery is really where my objections to prostitution lie. But I don't think that these HAVE to be a feature of a well-implemented sex industry (see Nevada as an example of this rather than Amsterdam, which is a terrible example).

and how is it inexcusably bad? because i have used some short hand here and there? or using bases instead of basis perhaps? and i have had plenty of useful responses thank you very much so i believe people haven't had any issue with it and neither do you as you all so managed to answer the question? or may be because i didn't post it as a large formal question as i just want some opinions to see how accurate many of the statements within my readings are accurate?

 

[DarkRyter]

All women be hoes. Actual hoe's are just more up front with it.

 

[Verlander]

Sex slavery=bad

Sex working=fine, potentially liberating

Unfortunately, it's hard to legislate, so it's generally banned on grounds of safety etc. Which doesn't necessarily work

actually it would be very easy to legislative, but its an unwillingness, no political party wants to touch the subject, atleast not possibility of legitimising it, its why so many tolerance and management zones proposals are turned down

To an extent maybe, but the studies in Amsterdam ahve proven that sexual slavery and pimping don't stop, regardless of the law. In fact, in certain case, it was made worse, as pimps tried to compete with the legalised brothels

 

[Ekonk]

Everyone here keeps jabbering about 'willingly'.

Truth is it's only in very rare cases willingly. Most prostitutes over here in Holland are foreign girls who have fallen into the claws of human traffickers, pimps, or organized crime. They have no way to get out of their miserable situation and get mistreated and forced into sex regulary.

It's a pretty horrid thing.