Prove me wrong

[yosophat]

I'm thinking there has to be flaws to my logic. If you can find them please point them out.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that all the religions say that only their religion is right and everyone else's is wrong. If so this can only mean that there are definitely people who have created religious beliefs, whether god exists or not.

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

Buddhists don't believe their religions is the only "way". Religion Doesn't get you closer to God N00B it only tells you what you have to do to get closer to God and essentially all major religions tell you to to be good to others and yourself and that's not "too risky". If you picked the wrong god or religion, oh well what you gonna do about it when you're DEAD. If we knew for certain that there is no god at all then we might as well be cunts and douches to each other. At least in my opinion.

 

[Xero Scythe]

I'm thinking there has to be flaws to my logic. If you can find them please point them out.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that all the religions say that only their religion is right and everyone else's is wrong. If so this can only mean that there are definitely people who have created religious beliefs, whether god exists or not.

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

here, you want us to point out your flawed logic?
... you are a brave, brave man.

pointing time. one: if the mind creates god, who creates the mind? two: even if the mind creates the god, you cant really be screwed. the god would have to take you up to paradise, because his existence depends on your continued good will, which essentially makes you a god.
3: if there is no god, then you are not screwed. you will just feel silly for a little while as you walk the earth forever (or cease to exist- at least this way you wont feel silly)4: if you do choose the wrong god, and wholeheartedly believe in him, no matter what, don't you think the correct god will look kindly upon you for your loyalty? Look at catholism, we have something called baptism of belief (Discaimer: not flaming, not trying to spread my belief, not trying to do anything to get me banned or whatever) which means if you do not know that God is the true God, but would become Catholic if you did know, you are still saved. also, look at Christ on the cross. he welcomed a man who stole and sinned and killed for a living, and because he said he was sorry and meant it, he was welcomed into paradise.

 

[Xero Scythe]

Just go with the majority religion. Its probably safest.
HELL YEAH! CHRISTIANITY!

i dont think that is wise. the Nazis were the majority party in Germany in the 1940's, does that mean it was safest to side with them?

 

[Arqus_Zed]

I'm thinking there has to be flaws to my logic. If you can find them please point them out.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that all the religions say that only their religion is right and everyone else's is wrong. If so this can only mean that there are definitely people who have created religious beliefs, whether god exists or not.

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

Ahhh, yes... The basics of atheïsm...

Look, I've got an enormous interest in theology, mythology and even demonology - which is sub-category of the previously mentioned, really...

I've read John Milton's Paradise Lost, Dante Alighieri's Divina Commedia and quite a lot of bible passages. I can start taking things like this to a degree that it simply isn't funny anymore. I've had that before so... I'm just going to spare all of you the annoyance.

Let me just say this:
I am the keeper of my mind, but I am wicked, if I did not have my faith, I would go mad, my morality lets me know good from evil, my religion shares this vision, because the core of every religion is the same: go forth and do what is right, everything not parallel to this statement has been influenced by human hands tainted by betrayal and thus is corrupt.

Do some research and you'll realise that the whole 'everyone else is wrong'-mentality something was that people with power added to abuse faith. Use it as a weapon, 'opium of the people'. They betrayed their religion for personal gain, you know where betrayers go to? The ninth circle of hell, that's where!

N.B.: I don't really believe Dante's vision of a hell divided in circles and sub-circles, but the delicate way he delivers latent information and visions along with it... Magnificent.

 

[Xero Scythe]

Religion thread! TAKE COVER!!

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So, you're saying that wrong religions are wrong? Am I missing something?

I know green=dummy ammunition, so what does a brown cartridge indicate?

live rounds.

 

[Skizle]

I'm a Taoist in philosophy, but not in actual religious practice. Some religions advocate a very good way of life, but they still are total bogus when it comes to spiritual beliefs.

Once you really start to study science, I'd say, you really just stop believing in religion. It happened to me and most people I know. Religion is just filling a void, and people cling to it because they are afraid of death, where you rot and have no consciousness.

wow i didnt think anyone else here had any remote knowing of Taoism

 

[CrashBang]

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

You raise an interesting point about the mind creating god. I'm a humanist and as such I know that man is greater than any ficticious 'higher being' religious folk choose to worship. If a person's mind can create god then that helps back up the fact that man is stronger than god (what that means is that as a species united we are stronger than a groups faith in the higher being they worship)

 

[clicketycrack]

Just go with the majority religion. Its probably safest.
HELL YEAH! CHRISTIANITY!

i dont think that is wise. the Nazis were the majority party in Germany in the 1940's, does that mean it was safest to side with them?

you fail by godwin's law

 

[FallenRainbows]

I'm thinking there has to be flaws to my logic. If you can find them please point them out.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that all the religions say that only their religion is right and everyone else's is wrong. If so this can only mean that there are definitely people who have created religious beliefs, whether god exists or not.

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

Buddhism. Religion. No god. Consider yourself wrong proven.

 

[Mojave]

Because the alternative scares people more.

But why not point your argument a different direction? If the mind is capable of creating god, what are the limits to all the beautiful things it can create?

 

[Akai Shizuku]

I do believe that there is a god, because when a rabbit runs through the snowy forest, it inevitably leaves tracks behind. And a hunter can always tell when a deer is around by finding its droppings.

Although it's obvious some people are just making stuff up with all the wacky new religions coming out. Did you know there's actually a religion based on following Jedi teachings?

 

[Frankydee]

I'm a (less than devout..) LDS follower myself and it's our belief that other religions aren't necessarily wrong but rather they have what I can only explain as "parts."

This be it doctrinal beliefs or moral grounds.

Apologies that I don't have a better explanation for it.

 

[Superhyperactiveman]

Generally, the religions themselves don't say "I'm right; you're wrong". Their official statement is "Religious tolerance" It's just that every single group has its idiots... And then they start flinging their poo and their rocks and their grenades.

Personally, I'm just against organized religion. I think believing in God or gods should be like a political party. You believe or you don't, and that's the extent.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

there could always be multiple gods you know, so no matter what you lose.

 

[Reklore]

I'm thinking there has to be flaws to my logic. If you can find them please point them out.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that all the religions say that only their religion is right and everyone else's is wrong. If so this can only mean that there are definitely people who have created religious beliefs, whether god exists or not.

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

Buddhists don't believe their religions is the only "way". Religion Doesn't get you closer to God N00B it only tells you what you have to do to get closer to God and essentially all major religions tell you to to be good to others and yourself and that's not "too risky". If you picked the wrong god or religion, oh well what you gonna do about it when you're DEAD. If we knew for certain that there is no god at all then we might as well be cunts and douches to each other. At least in my opinion.

I don't believe in god and I don't be a **** or a DOUCHE to people. I?m good to people because i like to see them happy. If someone NEEDs religion to be good, there not truly good

 

[Tdc2182]

I'm thinking there has to be flaws to my logic. If you can find them please point them out.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that all the religions say that only their religion is right and everyone else's is wrong. If so this can only mean that there are definitely people who have created religious beliefs, whether god exists or not.

If the gods that we speak of do not exist then you would have to agree that the mind created god. If it is possible that the mind could create god then I think it's too risky to choose one of the religions and spend your whole life worshipping that god when you could find out that the chosen god is the wrong one or there might not even be a god.

how about...Yah, how about we STOP MAKING FUCKING RELIGOUS THREADS! iT IS NOT A GOOD TOPIC. I REPEAT, IT IS NOT A GOOD TOPIC.

 

[Silver Scribbler]

I suppose it's rather sad that a thread about religion is deigned to turn into a flame war by most people, but then who am I to deny this, with my limited experience.

OT, while your logic MIGHT be sound, religion is an idea that evidently defies logic. The fear of mortality has nothing to do with logic, and so why should many people's solution to it have anything to do with logic?
Just to be clear, I am not being anti-religious. I completely respect anybody's belief in any religion, even if I am a devout atheist myself.