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Zacharine

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Okay, barely a month ago I stated quite boldly on the "Do you hate JRPGs"-thread that

"Nowadays it's just the combination of poor/barely acceptable story, uninnovative characters and a combat systems that is old (granted, it works, but I'd expect someone to try something new every now and then) in addition with unskippable attack animations. Put it together with crayon-bright colours and you usually end with a product that's practically a clone of the other who-knows-how-many JRPGs out there.

It's not that they're all bad, it's just that we've seen everything they have to offer at least 5 times already. I feel like the JRPG genre is afraid to try anything new and that it has been stagnating for the past decade or so."


and said that I'd be willing to try one or two games during summer months, recommended to me with the intent of proving me wrong.

Here it is ladies and gentlemen. After having played both Tales of Vesperia and The Last Remnant (though only Vesperia all the way through at this point) I will humble submit that I was wrong. A month was all it took.

I WAS WRONG.

Indeed, I'm not entirely too sure what it was about those games but they have sparked a renewed hope and even, on some level, admiration for the JPRG-genre. Having thought that I'd see it all with the decline of FF series, I was pleasantly surprised by these games. The Last Remnant certainly was over-the-top (way, way over the top)but it was fun, perhaps more because of that instead of despite it. Perhaps it was also the few years of hiatus from JRPGs that also helped. While there certainly were issues and some of the things I hate about JRPGs stay persistently, the games were at least innovative and mostly even fun, allowing me to dismiss and ignore the more boring parts. Vesperia consistently even made me keep playing for that dreaded 'one more hour', despite an already short sleep cycle.

So, thank you Escapists for managing to turn my stiff RPG-loving neck 180 degrees and special thanks to all who recommended games to me back then. I feel like I'll be buying a few more JRPGs in the months to come.

No other point to this thread, just needed to admit that as per the unspoken and unwritten agreement made a month ago.
 

Legion

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SakSak said:
So, thank you Escapists for managing to turn my stiff RPG-loving neck 180 degrees
Your welcome. I am totally not taking credit for doing nothing.

Also, it's nice to be proven wrong in instances like this isn't it.
 

Librarian Mike

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Thanks for that post. You have totally made my day, and given me hope that people can talk about videogames without it degenerating into a flamewar.
 
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Someone´s actually admitting he was wrong. Now here´s a refreshing display of honesty and humility. Glad you learned something new from your personal endeavor.
 

Zacharine

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I know I'm a recent addition to the Escapist Mag Community, but come on, it's not like this level of basic maturity can be this unexpected?

It can't, right? You're just pulling my leg, right?
 

megapenguinx

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gigastrike said:
This is probably the first time I've seen a thread on this subject in my life.
It's weird to hear someone say they were wrong on the internet.
Oh and OP: be careful, not all JPRG's are created equal.
 

Zacharine

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megapenguinx said:
It's weird to hear someone say they were wrong on the internet.
*Checks around to see if stupid idealism and enrequited hope for humanity remain.* Yep, still got them.

Oh and OP: be careful, not all JPRG's are created equal.
Oh I know. But it seems like there are indeed some gems among the fools gold. Just gotta find the gems...
 
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SakSak said:
I know I'm a recent addition to the Escapist Mag Community, but come on, it's not like this level of basic maturity can be this unexpected?

It can't, right? You're just pulling my leg, right?
It must be a happy world you live in.
But seriously, maturity isn´t completely lost in here, (far from it, I say) but there are certain topics in which maturity is easily forgotten, one those topics being the eternal WRPG vs. JRPG struggle. Your recognition is a fresh breeze in that particular subject.
 

Daveman

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SakSak said:
I WAS WRONG.
Admitting you're wrong is for other people. Anyway, I can't comment on JRPGs as my eyes and the other sensory areas of my body wouldn't forgive me. No FF for me thank you very much.
 

Zacharine

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Daveman said:
SakSak said:
I WAS WRONG.
Admitting you're wrong is for other people. Anyway, I can't comment on JRPGs as my eyes and the other sensory areas of my body wouldn't forgive me. No FF for me thank you very much.
That's precisely what I thought before playing Tales of Vesperia
 

DM.

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Just remember OP, JRPGs have a wider spectrum of good and "so terrible it isn't worth pirating" then WRPGs.