Judging by your posts, I'm going to jump to conclusions and conclude that you're a Sony employee.AnythingOutstanding said:
PS3 "Other OS" Removal May Violate Norwegian Law
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Yeah while I haven't personally been screwed over by EULAs (that I'm aware of) I definitely think it's time we get some power in the consumer's corner. I personally think it's bullshit that for one, I have no technical ownership over a game I buy and for two, it's apparently illegal for me to modify my game console of choice if I so choose.
The fact that any of you guys would actually try to defend Sony's actions is really just stupid. Honestly, you bought a product with features X, Y, and Z. The people who made the product decide to release an update to remove feature Z, but you don't have to download it, you just won't be able to use feature X anymore if you don't. Either way, the customer is having something they paid for taken away from them. Plenty of people bought the PS3 on the pretense that they could use it to run Linux, and now they cannot. Good on Norway for stepping up and telling Sony "Hey, you just can't do that, it's breaking our laws." I hope they win, and set a precedent to keep this thing from happening again.
Well, there's a reason so many people and organizations use PS3s as supercomputers.GrammarLad said:
The PS3 is one of the cheapest ways to calculate things en masse. This is possible because of the OtherOS.
If eight PS3s can make a damn supercomputer used by astrophysicists, then one box would be a nice little calculator for a tech-savvy individual who likes Linux and gaming. Its like how people get the Kinect for the Mo-cap capabilities but also play compatible games with it. Except, instead of Mo-Cap, you get some nice processing power and the entire PS3 library, and it was an advertised feature.
I'm not trying to say, "Oh, you're WRONG" here or anything, but the OtherOS is just something so incredibly wonderful in my eyes, and for them to be taking away an advertised feature because a few people were abusing it is about as cruel as some sort of DRM in which you had to chose between only using your PC, or only playing games on it popping up out of the blue.
cynicalsaint1 said:
I said that in the first part of my reply. But I still didn't get a concise response.
Was the functionality all that necessary to begin with?
Sony vs. Norway
Status: None as of yet.
I cant really draw up anything decent to say on this, but that would be boring.
Soa country thats really only notable for bieng frozen for the greater part of the year Norway is sueing a worldwide entertainment giant over a law that doesnt apply to the other 99% of the world.
Fuck ive seen worse legal craziness.
Also i still dont see why youd want to turn a PS3 into a working computer or anything else. For that there are computers available with linux and most of them are a damn sight cheaper than the PS3 is.
On a note i wrote this up as a counter argument for the majority of pro-Norway people on this thread so far. I guess it didnt turn out well.
/flameshield
Status: None as of yet.
I cant really draw up anything decent to say on this, but that would be boring.
So
Fuck ive seen worse legal craziness.
Also i still dont see why youd want to turn a PS3 into a working computer or anything else. For that there are computers available with linux and most of them are a damn sight cheaper than the PS3 is.
On a note i wrote this up as a counter argument for the majority of pro-Norway people on this thread so far. I guess it didnt turn out well.
/flameshield
My thoughts exactly.Grey_Focks said:
I don?t have a PS3 and I'll admit I think the Other OS feature is rather silly. However this was marketed as a feature so I don?t see how it can simply be removed later on. As you say the option to not accept the firmware isn't much of an alternative given that it blocks you from other basic features.
All I'm going to say, is I'm GLAD GLAD GLAD Linux is gone from my PS3. I've been forced to use Linux for my day-to-day career for the last 6 years, and I hate every flavour OS to the very core of my being. No matter how benign one individuals intentions may be, other people will exploit and ruin, so I've seen what homebrew leads to on my PSP, and I don't care for it.
As a console consumer, I'm GLAD to see them closing the door on this whole subject, and keeping the gaming consoles exactly what their title is.. A GAME CONSOLE.. In my humble opinion, if you want to code your own software and run Linux, don't buy a game console. Buy a PC.
That's just my opinion as another game console consumer. Aaaand, I'm not budging from it either.
As a console consumer, I'm GLAD to see them closing the door on this whole subject, and keeping the gaming consoles exactly what their title is.. A GAME CONSOLE.. In my humble opinion, if you want to code your own software and run Linux, don't buy a game console. Buy a PC.
That's just my opinion as another game console consumer. Aaaand, I'm not budging from it either.
Can you give any evidence where or how it was a marketed feature?Hungry Donner said:
On no box, official site or ad was Other OS EVER advertised or marketed. Ever.
Sorry, it was not a marketed feature of the PS3. Like many features of the PS3, you had to go out of your way to find out about it. Or if you are an enthusiast, you'd hear about it from third parties, but never from Sony.
I still have my 60GB PS3 box and there is no mention anywhere on it that says you can install Linux on it. To claim that it does is a pure fabrication.
Does it matter? They essentially downgraded their product for all users.Sovereignty said:
And in all honestly it really depends on what you were doing with it, just because you or I didn't do anything with it, doesn't mean that there weren't people out there who had a use for it. I mean there are plenty of things you could do with a Linux box - if nothing else it'd be a cheap way to set up a server of some sort.
If you don't like it, don't use it, but other people do like it. There is no reason to be happy it is gone even if you don't use it because it is optional.Andy Powell said: