PS3 Picked to Pass 360 in 2011

[Xanadu84]

Both 360 and PS3 have done well enough that they are both quite happy. I really doubt that the companies are that concerned with beating the competition, they're concerned about having a bigger profit.

 

[Jumplion]

I don't really care who overtakes who anymore, especially since they're really only a paltry 3-4 million units away. They're both fine consoles in their own right, but I prefer the PS3 overall. It's been gaining steam for the past year or so, and it's really getting off to a great start with their "slow and steady" approach. The Wii is already the "winrar" of this generation, but I won't get into that.

So long as I get the PS3 games that I've come to expect from Sony, Killzone 3, LittleBigPlanet 3, Uncharted 3, Gran Turismo 5, The Last Guardian and Team ICO Collections, etc... then I'm happy with my fill.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

Wouldn't surprise me at all.
I have to say that the list of exciting exclusives next year for the PS3 dwarfs that of the 360. I think Microsoft put all their eggs in one basket with Kinect and didn't funnel enough of their money into landing decent exclusive titles. Gears O War 3 is the only one to spring to mind. Increased sales might go to 360 owners picking up a PS3 for their exclusive titles. I can't see a better framerate on multi-platform titles and Kinect being enough of a draw for PS3 users to shell out for a 360.

While exclusives seem to slowly going the way of the buffalo I think they do influence the "on the fence" gamer a bit. Then again if you've waited this long to make a choice either way you've already lost out.

 

[Random Name 4]

It's funny that even with them this close, most software is still sold on Xbox

 

[Danpascooch]

If it ever overtakes the 360, Microsoft will just release the next Xbox a year later and get all of the sales back, face it Sony, you made a damn good machine, but you made it too hard to code for and just when it's starting to hit its stride it's going to be left behind.

Not to bash you for this but there are some rock-hard stellar titles out there that show the PS3's true power. Then again, those are 1st party devs and get paid money and given time to do so.

Most multi-platform games are designed with the 360 in mind, which has always some kind of superior quality to it than the PS3 counterpart unfortunatly. Eh, we will see how this works out.

I know there are some amazing games for the PS3, but the average 3rd party developer is just getting the hang of it.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

It's only taken two thirds of this generation to do it...

My thoughts exactly.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

If it ever overtakes the 360, Microsoft will just release the next Xbox a year later and get all of the sales back, face it Sony, you made a damn good machine, but you made it too hard to code for and just when it's starting to hit its stride it's going to be left behind.

I highly doubt that MS would just up and release a new Xbox just because the PS3 passes them in sales. Especially not right after releasing Kinect. That's just illogical to even think that would happen.

That and the "PS3 is too hard to code for" was really an excuse for smaller companies to fall back on when their bad games didn't sell.

It's already been said that this console generation will be the longest ever, and everyone can see why. This gen may last 10 years due to the power of both consoles increasing so well, and the use of DLC. We're 5 years into this generation, we're only halfway through, especially if major attachments are just being released now.

First of all, I don't think Microsoft is going to make a new one solely for that, my belief is that they are already well into the development of the next xbox and will release it around the time the PS3 exceeds the 360

Also, it's not an excuse at all, it's true, it's hard to make games for due to its unnecessarily complex nature, the structure of its cells is unlike anything out there, and it deviates from established norms without a clear reason.

Microsoft is not well into developing a new console. They just released Kinect, why would they be? They also JUST started making a profit off of the 360 just over a year ago. They wouldn't be willing to make another billion dollar investment to make a console that would easily cost $600. As I said, this is going to be the longest console generation EVER. Console gens usually last 6-7 years. We're on year 5 and we JUST got major accessories for both consoles. Making a console right now would be a waste of money.

And the PS3 being hard to code for IS a sorry excuse. When smaller companies like ATLUS or the devs that made X-Blades can make multiplatform games with no bitching, the, "it's too hard" complaints are mute. Especially since there have only been a handful of companies complaining. The devs who made HAZE complained about the PS3 being hard to code for a full year after their game flopped. Valve complained because they didn't try. Now the PS3 is getting Steamworks and Portal 2. It's just a poor excuse. Borderlands can out the same day for both consoles. So did GTA IV. I didn't hear whining from Gearbox or Rockstar.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

It's only taken two thirds of this generation to do it...

My thoughts exactly.

And the 360 only had a year jump on the competition...

 

[Exort]

If it ever overtakes the 360, Microsoft will just release the next Xbox a year later and get all of the sales back, face it Sony, you made a damn good machine, but you made it too hard to code for and just when it's starting to hit its stride it's going to be left behind.

I highly doubt that MS would just up and release a new Xbox just because the PS3 passes them in sales. Especially not right after releasing Kinect. That's just illogical to even think that would happen.

That and the "PS3 is too hard to code for" was really an excuse for smaller companies to fall back on when their bad games didn't sell.

It's already been said that this console generation will be the longest ever, and everyone can see why. This gen may last 10 years due to the power of both consoles increasing so well, and the use of DLC. We're 5 years into this generation, we're only halfway through, especially if major attachments are just being released now.

"PS3 is too hard to code for"
is a fact, kid. But that is no excuse for Sony, since they are the one made it so hard and un-user-freindly.
First off, PS3 run on 7 cores, find me a other common computer that run on 7 cores. Poeple are used to progarm Mutlitrend for 2 cores because it is easier to manage. (note: most PCgames run only one 1 cores, for example Starcraft 2)

Then it never tell you things like you run out of registry space. Programs should have a big error message when encounter that problem, or how should the programer know whats wrong when the game is laging or crashed.

I remember someone in Valve talking about it.

 

[Danpascooch]

If it ever overtakes the 360, Microsoft will just release the next Xbox a year later and get all of the sales back, face it Sony, you made a damn good machine, but you made it too hard to code for and just when it's starting to hit its stride it's going to be left behind.

I highly doubt that MS would just up and release a new Xbox just because the PS3 passes them in sales. Especially not right after releasing Kinect. That's just illogical to even think that would happen.

That and the "PS3 is too hard to code for" was really an excuse for smaller companies to fall back on when their bad games didn't sell.

It's already been said that this console generation will be the longest ever, and everyone can see why. This gen may last 10 years due to the power of both consoles increasing so well, and the use of DLC. We're 5 years into this generation, we're only halfway through, especially if major attachments are just being released now.

First of all, I don't think Microsoft is going to make a new one solely for that, my belief is that they are already well into the development of the next xbox and will release it around the time the PS3 exceeds the 360

Also, it's not an excuse at all, it's true, it's hard to make games for due to its unnecessarily complex nature, the structure of its cells is unlike anything out there, and it deviates from established norms without a clear reason.

Microsoft is not well into developing a new console. They just released Kinect, why would they be? They also JUST started making a profit off of the 360 just over a year ago. They wouldn't be willing to make another billion dollar investment to make a console that would easily cost $600. As I said, this is going to be the longest console generation EVER. Console gens usually last 6-7 years. We're on year 5 and we JUST got major accessories for both consoles. Making a console right now would be a waste of money.

And the PS3 being hard to code for IS a sorry excuse. When smaller companies like ATLUS or the devs that made X-Blades can make multiplatform games with no bitching, the, "it's too hard" complaints are mute. Especially since there have only been a handful of companies complaining. The devs who made HAZE complained about the PS3 being hard to code for a full year after their game flopped. Valve complained because they didn't try. Now the PS3 is getting Steamworks and Portal 2. It's just a poor excuse. Borderlands can out the same day for both consoles. So did GTA IV. I didn't hear whining from Gearbox or Rockstar.

I didn't say it was impossible I said it was unnecessarily difficult, I don't know where you're getting your information but I have the sneaking suspicion you are saying "it's a sorry excuse" based on no research or tangible evidence, it is in fact much more difficult to code and/or port to the PS3 over the 360 or Wii, and if you want I can post the citations that prove it.

It's not that it can't be done, it's just that it's excessively difficult to the point that many developers consider it not worth it, the last year or two the PS3 finally started getting a steady stream of quality third party titles because developers are just getting used to the strange structure of its cells.

You're saying since Gearbox and Rockstar did it it can't be hard? That's interesting logic, You know people have climbed Mt. Everest right? It must be easy. Go try it.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

If you take into account the 360 had a years head start, the PS3 has beaten it since release...So to be overtaken by a console that was released a year later shows a nice cock up by MS.

I would have said that year gap was good for PS3...

In my opinion, the cheaper price of the 360 may have swayed more people that way.

I could see that if they released at the same time the PS3 may have had a slightly embarrassing release.

Still we don't really know.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

And the 360 only had a year jump on the competition...

Looks like that year jump paid off.

 

[Mysnomer]

I guess I hang around anime forums and stuff too much, because when I see DFC, my mind instantly translates it as "Delicious Flat-Chest."

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

Not really...Being into tech as well as a lot of other people who want the best, when you compare the PS3 to the release 360, apart from the price, it was clear that the PS3 was the far better purchase - bluray, Cell B.E., HDD, standard wireless internet, six-axis, HDMI port and so on. The 360 for me and a lot of other people was simply not a leap enough in technology to warrant a purchase, but the PS3 was.

Oh I'm not disagreeing any of that.

But as a general standpoint.

If we imagine that 98% of people who own a console don't post on forums/keep up to date with gaming news/understand the tech inside said console then they won't care. They're looking for the cheapest item.

I think among the 2% who speak to each other about things like that then yes the PS3 would have prevailed, but among most other lower/middle class families/people I think the 360 would have outsold the PS3 with ease.

 

[the_pleasure_is_mine]

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[Rad Party God]

I sold my 360 about 6 months ago and I'm still glad I did. Now I want a PS3.
So yeah, I'd be glad if the PS3 outsold the 360, even if Sony had a slippery start.

 

[dark-amon]

Never gotten the console-race. The only good thing about it is that competition forces companies to try to innovate new, quality products. (though this year we haven't seen many).
One thing that makes the console-race redundant is that most of the good games are multi-platform. Making the race into a fanboy trollfest