Yes, the autodetection settings are very well done.Nimbus said:Wow. It took me all of 30 seconds to set up wireless for my PS3.
Yes, the autodetection settings are very well done.Nimbus said:Wow. It took me all of 30 seconds to set up wireless for my PS3.
A home broadband system will generally have one external IP address. Multiple IP systems are for larger networks in business environments.SinisterDeath said:Oh, so thats why the cable companies advertise something along the lines of 'maximum of 3,5,10 IPs' with your 3/5/10Mbit connections?
It uses DHCP like anything else. It asks the access point for an IP address, the access point gives it one.THe PS3, is 'aggressive' when it comes to connecting with WiFi, I used the word AGGRESSIVE, because most other 'wifi' devices, will attempt to connect to ANY IP, on the router its connected to. The PS3, is 'stubborn' if you want to call it that, it WANTS to only connect to the 1st IP, regardless if its available or not.
You probably just have a rubbish router.You've never had to deal with any connections issues obviously.
It also depends on WHAT cable company you go through.
Mine sucks, Thusly I have to go through a SUCKY method of getting everything to hook up.
Rubbish router. A home router should be able to assign 254 unique IP addresses (unless you've been fiddling with it's DHCP range). These IP addresses are completely different to the ones given out by your cable company.Heres a clue.
One time, My router was only giving 1 IP address between 2 pcs.
Everytime my mother wanted to get online, I'd get booted.
Everytime I tried to do something online, she'd get booted.
Effectively we kept playing tag!
MY pc stole her IP and knocked her off, her pc stole my IP and knocked me off.
Then you throw in a PS3 in the mix, and ORIGINAL MODELS tend to want to get the '1st' ip, and not the 'first available' ip.
Wireless Zero Configuration connects to networks in order of preference, it does not change networks unless the preferred network becomes unavailable. It will stay on a network with a shitty signal if you've told it that's the preferred network. Wireless Zero Configuration is far simpler and more stable than any manufacturer shipped wireless configuration client I've encountered (and supporting home wireless networks is my job).Laughing Man said:In doing so they added a service called WZC (Windows Zero Configuration.) Now the idea behind this was to allow you to move around with your lap top and have it automatically find the strongest Wifi signal to lock on to. Great for a laptop suck ass for a desktop. WZC works by checking ever so often for a better network signal strength. When it does this your network is dropped for a split second. Gamers will see this as a noticeable sharp and short increase in their Ping.
Uh that's actually wrong on two countsWireless Zero Configuration connects to networks in order of preference, it does not change networks unless the preferred network becomes unavailable.
Second I didn't say it was connecting to another network or even trying to connect I was saying that WZC roams for stronger AP signals and it is well documented that this roaming function is a cause of headache for an awful lot of people. Resulting in; lag, high latency and unexplained disconnects (although I did say that when it goes roaming it disconnects and the way I described it it could be read that it does this by design rather than because it's a massive cock up that MS won't own up too.)When your Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 1 or Service Pack 2 (SP1 or SP2)-based Wireless Zero Configuration (WZC) client computer is in the proximity of two wireless access points, and one of the access points is broadcasting its Service Set Identifier (SSID) but the other is not, your computer always connects to the access point that is broadcasting its SSID. This occurs regardless of the preference order of the networks that are configured on the Preferred Networks list.
Additionally, when your computer is connected to an access point that is not broadcasting its SSID, and another access point that is broadcasting its SSID is enabled nearby, your computer automatically connects to the access point that is broadcasting its SSID.
So just because MS disclaim any problem with WZC you can't ignore the numerous amount of people who have solved wireless network problems by simply disabling WZC.Further evidence indicates that there is significant cause to believe that a station can be disassociated from its access point entirely at random by a probe request sequence initiated from the WZC client.
While the issue has persisted with considerable evidence to warrant a closer look, Microsoft maddeningly denies any issue. As early as 2004, Microsoft?s lead product manager in Microsoft?s Windows division remarked that ?[They] don?t have data that suggests Windows XP drops wireless connections more than any other system.?
First, that wasn't what you were originally claiming, and second, you're still wrong. Read what you posted again, this only happens when WZC first starts and looks for networks to connect to. If there are two networks in range, and both are in the preferred networks list, WZC will use the one that broadcasts it's SSID in preference to the one that doesn't. Nothing to do with it disconnecting from one network to connect to another with a stronger signal, and not something which is going to be relevant in a great many cases.Laughing Man said:Uh that's actually wrong on two counts
First it WILL drop a network if it has a hidden SSID in favour of a network that has a broadcast SSID. Irrespective of weather the hidden network SSID is the preferred one or not. Even Microsoft say that http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811427
It will only roam between multiple access points on the same network. It will not automatically disconnect from one network and connect to a different network because it has a stronger signal.Second I didn't say it was connecting to another network or even trying to connect I was saying that WZC roams for stronger AP signals and it is well documented that this roaming function is a cause of headache for an awful lot of people. Resulting in; lag, high latency and unexplained disconnects (although I did say that when it goes roaming it disconnects and the way I described it it could be read that it does this by design rather than because it's a massive cock up that MS won't own up too.)
1. Would ditch the cable company, if they weren't the best one in my area...- Ditch the cable company, they sound shite
- Get a better router, it sounds shite
- Disable WZC on any wireless PCs (services.msc right click the WZC and select not to start at boot) You will however have to use the software provided with your wireless receiver to set up your PCs network connection (unless you're happy doing it through Windows)
Same dude.Nimbus said:Wow. It took me all of 30 seconds to set up wireless for my PS3.
My experience with manufacturer provided software has been horrible. Used plenty of sticks with different brands. Always went back to WZC.GloatingSwine said:The only other thing you have is your anecdotal evidence which is worthless to prove a problem with WZC as a whole. I have anecdotal evidence as well, which is that it's much easier to configure and more stable than any manufacturer provided software.
Pfft, routers are for suckers.Jalhalla said:Same dude.Nimbus said:Wow. It took me all of 30 seconds to set up wireless for my PS3.
If it's disconnecting all the time, just change your router or try to find the problem.
WLAN in the PS3 is really stable and gets updated with firmware anyway.