I suppose it depends on your definition of soon. Even saying a price drop could occur within one year might be optimistic, because whether or not a price drop happens won't solely be because of production costs, but will largely come down to demand. If the console is meeting or exceeding Sony's expectations in terms of demand, then the price is likely To remain the same, because the market is suggesting that it can take the price. If however, during the first year, their overall sales are below their expectations, you might see a price drop. Considering the head start they seem to have, current signs point to not expecting price drop until year two or so.darthzew said:
PS4 Manufacturing Costs "Much Smaller" Than PS3
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Actually, Sony probably should go with such a strategy because of its plans for the PS4. By next E3, the PS4 will most likely have Gaikai streaming of PS3 games (a big draw for me) and user-generated video production via PS4 for videos up to 15 minutes long. Now, I doubt Sony can directly reference the XbOne's shortcomings in these fields (no backwards compatibility of any kind and video production of up to 5-minute-long videos), but just explaining how they work as implemented would put the PS4 in a shining light.StewShearer said:
It was and it wasn't, the WaW on PS2 was the same game in name only, the actual campaign was entirely different. Which is where this gen could get interesting, we already see this to an extent with things like Battlefield fielding smaller maps, will the next gen games like Titanfall be similarly cut down to work in the current gen's limited RAM? Probably.T3hSource said:
Historically Sony have made a price cut nine months to a year after release on their console, they held out for almost two on the PS2 because it sold so rapidly (30million units/ 125k units a month for two years at full price!). For everything else it's come sooner. I don't see the PS4 making those crushing numbers in it's release year as it's $100 more than the PS2 was and the market is more saturated now.darthzew said:
Of course if the Xbone bombs as badly as some are predicting price cuts could come as soon as the first quarter of 2014 as Microsoft tries to jump start the hardware and Sony looks to maintain it's price advantage.
The people who swear allegiance to one company are not the same people who would just buy the cheapest console or the ones their friends have. The people who are into games enough to care about one company more than the others will likely be the same people who buy all three consoles before the generation ends.Adam Jensen said:
they're run by investor pandering chumps, the theory being money grubbing anti-consumerist behaviour 'bad-news' for customers = good news for investors ( because they get the grubbed money! )ravenshrike said:
unfortunately they went so far with it, that it bit them in the ass. ( good thing too, cause gamers are already the industry's c*^"k wh^£%" and buy up any rotten code they can find! )
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That position was exactly what Sony needed to convey. Exactly. Not sure how they could have done it any better.StewShearer said:
It does what a console should do. I'm not sure what else a console can claim to do other than not be restrictive and to come up with a decent lineup of exclusives. A console's job is to be a platter on which desirable things may be appropriately displayed for consumption.
Since both products are generally competing along the market differentiation of quality (as opposed to price differentiation), all they can do is compare what one can do to what the other can't. By all means, if you can think of a marketing strategy that does better then please go into Marketing.
Well, maybe that's because at the time of its launch, the PS3 was using premium, custom-hardware that outmatched most PCs. Of course it cost a lot to make. Now, the PS4 is using components that have already been eclipsed by even entry-level PC hardware; old components tend to not cost much. Why is this news...
I agree the consoles are very similar, especially post Xbox 180. But almost every category they are similar the PS4 comes out as the slight winner, and in the big difference: price...PS4 come out huge.
Here's some other examples: PS4 doesn't require an adapter to use old headsets/ XB1 does.
PS+ $50/yr and isn't needed for Auto Update, Netflix, Skype, PS Share function etc/ XB Live $60/yr required to use anything online related.
PS4 doesn't require a camera peripheral to be always on and monitoring the living room/ XB1 does.
PS3 had better quantity and quality of exclusive games and 1st party devs over Xbox 360...That'll most def continue.
Both have cloud plans/ XB1 does have the upper hand in this though being available at launch.
Here's some other examples: PS4 doesn't require an adapter to use old headsets/ XB1 does.
PS+ $50/yr and isn't needed for Auto Update, Netflix, Skype, PS Share function etc/ XB Live $60/yr required to use anything online related.
PS4 doesn't require a camera peripheral to be always on and monitoring the living room/ XB1 does.
PS3 had better quantity and quality of exclusive games and 1st party devs over Xbox 360...That'll most def continue.
Both have cloud plans/ XB1 does have the upper hand in this though being available at launch.
Honestly I don't think the mobile console is an issue as much as it having few well known games on it. This is being fixed eventually though. It's always been fun playing PS1 games on PSP and the Vita will continue that with some extra games added on, which is really all I'm after myself.Colt47 said:
As for the PS4, glad to see Sony has hired some intelligent managers that have both made a system that offers useful and interesting features for gamers (even if not everyone will use all features) and keeping it within budget and a good price while offering good hardware (yes yes I know it's not a top of the line PC but frankly consoles never have and never will be, that's not the market they aim for).
Wait, comments on an entertainment website forum cause you to lose your faith in humanity?
Me, too!
Wait, you would lose your faith in humanity because of a comment in an entertainment website forum?TomWiley said:
Me, too!
So far it looks like the playstation 4 will even in america will sell very very well. And that is good news, personally I want a 50/50 situation so we don't end up with situations like PS3 Bayonetta. Ahum thank you thank you very much.
But Sony always sold better in asia. In europe it also sold quite well only in america it had to deal with the xbox that was homegrown. I think this run xbox might even lose their own home grounds. Or at least hoover around 50/50.
And that is good for gamers! No more bad ports! No more "Oh yes the DLC for Skyrim, eh yeah.. not coming to PS3"
But Sony always sold better in asia. In europe it also sold quite well only in america it had to deal with the xbox that was homegrown. I think this run xbox might even lose their own home grounds. Or at least hoover around 50/50.
And that is good for gamers! No more bad ports! No more "Oh yes the DLC for Skyrim, eh yeah.. not coming to PS3"
I'm not that concerned about a price drop. If it drops from $400 to $350 in a year, was it really worth waiting a year for $50? I don't think so. I want to pamper myself and have as much of this goodness as soon as possible. This is my top vice and it isn't as expensive as owning a boat or a camper.darthzew said:
RROD is a much bigger concern (And PS3 had yellow light of death, Wii had wiimotes that sucked: they needed that attachment which should have been standard from the start. Any problems with Wii U?).
If I'm waiting, it is because I worry they'll rush and poorly build early editions of this system, though, because of the simpler architecture of this gen and that Bluray is now old technology (remember when just a player cost $500?) I do think PS4 will be a more solid system at launch than was the PS3.
I'm not surprised that it's cost less but I'm glad to see they haven't poured all the money they earned from the PS3 on this console like they did with the PS2 - PS3.
PS2 WaW was actually much different to the 7th Gen game. A better example would be 2010's Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, or the fact that FIFA14 will apparently be on PS2.T3hSource said:
This is a thing? Wasn't this obvious? Using off the shelf parts and not having to recoup so much R&D expenditure on a novel architecture will naturally lead to lower production costs. Good for Sony, I'm glad they've gone this way.