PS4 Online Multiplayer Requires PS+ Subscription
- Thread starter Steven Bogos
- Start date
It still sucks.
The reason people aren't that mad about this is because PS+ is known right now for adding great value to your subscription, by giving you freebies. Well, they only give you free stuff because that's how they're selling the service right now, the day you have no other way to enjoy your games but to pay a monthly fee than they don't need to give you free stuff.
The reason people aren't that mad about this is because PS+ is known right now for adding great value to your subscription, by giving you freebies. Well, they only give you free stuff because that's how they're selling the service right now, the day you have no other way to enjoy your games but to pay a monthly fee than they don't need to give you free stuff.
Sucks. I don't really consider PS+ worth it right now just based on the fact that you can't choose what goes free and what gets discounted, so the PS+ library right now has only like 2 titles I have actually played. It also looks great on paper, but they typically only add about one AAA title a month for free, so the existing library gets stale extremely fast.
This really isn't justified at all. It's not terrible, it's nowhere near as bad as Xbox Live yet, but there's still absolutely no reason to charge for online play on top of the internet bill one already pays. There's no reason they can't just leave PS+ separate from online play. It's simple money grubbing.
It sucks because this was one of the big advantages Sony had over Xbox this generation, a big feature they could promote was the fact that you don't have to pay for something you're already paying for.
Consoles are doing a great job of making the PC look so good right now.
This really isn't justified at all. It's not terrible, it's nowhere near as bad as Xbox Live yet, but there's still absolutely no reason to charge for online play on top of the internet bill one already pays. There's no reason they can't just leave PS+ separate from online play. It's simple money grubbing.
It sucks because this was one of the big advantages Sony had over Xbox this generation, a big feature they could promote was the fact that you don't have to pay for something you're already paying for.
Consoles are doing a great job of making the PC look so good right now.
If this means that the online servers will be of higher quality, then call me a convert. Considering the only games I'm really looking forward to next generation is Destiny and Dark Souls 2, which are both going to be multiplatform, there really is nothing that makes me want the Xbone. Microsoft is really fucking up on this one.
I kinda figured this would happen anyway. As someone who has taken occasional advantage of a three month period of Playstation Plus, it's not a bad service. There's a lot of fun stuff you can get, between whole games and 25-50% off buying price, and that's fine. Needing it to go online, something you know they wanted to do for the PS3 but couldn't implement it part way into its life cycle, is not that big of a deal, seeing as that's been the norm for the 360 since it was the 360, if you see what I mean. Since I'm not that big of a multiplayer guy, this news doesn't break the bank for me, but a Plus subscription is hardly a nuisance, considering the other benefits it provides.
You can get a PS card somewhere else to use on the PSN. It's what my wife and I use and it's pretty widely available (we pick it up at the grocery store from that gift card kiosk).lunavixen said:
I will say that with their network actually making them money, we're likely to see a lot better security from them. Also, if you didn't notice, with the invention of PS+ on the PS3 we saw a dramatic increase in the network performance too. So we stand to have some significant advantages with this move. Basically, the ps4 is competing with microsoft on every front that gamers care about and even exceeding expectations. As I look at every category comparing the two systems I can't help but thinking that microsoft failed here even on the specs alone without regard for DRM and all that crap we didn't want/ask for. You can't be a weaker console with a weaker games catalogue and price your system higher. At least the ps3 was considered a more powerful console back when it released (even though we have since learned that it's ridiculous asset categories all but crippled developers in making games for it).
I've been on PS+ since the service started, so this doesn't effect me much at all, still I understand the annoyance for those it does effect, sure the other bonuses are worth it, but if you're not interested in them I can see how it would be a problem, not for me though, I'm perfectly ready to accept this
Well I can't call this unanticipated. It costs an assload of money to keep the multiplayer systems running; and with the PS4's increased power and added features, it will no doubt increase server stress. I was honestly surprised Sony was able to hold out his long without charging a fee.
Something also tells me this news is Sony pressing their current PR advantage over Microsoft to get the pricewall in place while people are still hailing them as the saviors of mainstream console gaming. Who knows?
Something also tells me this news is Sony pressing their current PR advantage over Microsoft to get the pricewall in place while people are still hailing them as the saviors of mainstream console gaming. Who knows?
My main problem with this is that my credit account is totally incapable of paying for PS Plus, not for funds but because my account does not enable address verification and thus denies any charges. Not even buying prepaid cards works for PS Plus because you HAVE to have a card verified in order for it to be accepted, which has prevented me from signing up in the past.
As long as they have found a method that includes all account types able to pay, it's not as bad; however, PS Plus was originally meant to supplement online features like early access, discounts, etc but now they've turned it into a near-mandatory service, considering the myriad of titles these days being multiplayer-integrated experiences.
As long as they have found a method that includes all account types able to pay, it's not as bad; however, PS Plus was originally meant to supplement online features like early access, discounts, etc but now they've turned it into a near-mandatory service, considering the myriad of titles these days being multiplayer-integrated experiences.
Pity Sony chose to go down this route. I generally don't play online, so this doesn't affect me, but I sympathize with those who do care.
At least PS Plus has something to offer besides online mp. It might not be up to par with Steam sales in terms of money potentially saved, but there's some sweet deals to had. Gotta find solace in something.
At least PS Plus has something to offer besides online mp. It might not be up to par with Steam sales in terms of money potentially saved, but there's some sweet deals to had. Gotta find solace in something.
Damn. I was gonna actually get the PS4.
Guess I'll just stick with mah computer. Paid a thousand euros to build the thing, might as well play with it.
I mean there's really no incentive now. I was going to get the console so I could play with my some random fps with friends but the PC is free so... Tough shit I guess. There's exclusives, but I'd actually have to get through all the games I've bought on steam before I'll allow myself to buy anything new that I haven't played the previous installments in.
This really just sucks
Guess I'll just stick with mah computer. Paid a thousand euros to build the thing, might as well play with it.
I mean there's really no incentive now. I was going to get the console so I could play with my some random fps with friends but the PC is free so... Tough shit I guess. There's exclusives, but I'd actually have to get through all the games I've bought on steam before I'll allow myself to buy anything new that I haven't played the previous installments in.
This really just sucks
Like many many others have said. As long as the PS+ remains the same as it is, this is not bad news. The only reason I don't currently have it, is that I rarely download anything off PSN. But now, I see it as nothing but good news. Fine I need PS+ to play online with my friends. But if I can also download free games, DLC, themes, and other content, I don't lose anything. And PS+ more than pays for itself in the freebies and discounts.
This isn't bad news. It's simply news. Maybe even good news. As long as Sony keeps being as awesome as they have been the last 24 hours, I still plan to buy a PS4. And as long as PS+ remains largely the same, I'll pay for it with a smile.
May even go preorder a PS4 this weekend.
This isn't bad news. It's simply news. Maybe even good news. As long as Sony keeps being as awesome as they have been the last 24 hours, I still plan to buy a PS4. And as long as PS+ remains largely the same, I'll pay for it with a smile.
May even go preorder a PS4 this weekend.
This makes the subscription service between Sony and Microsoft a bit closer but the former still takes the cake based on the benefits of the paid service.
I had a slight anticipation that Sony would stop free online gaming because it seemed from a business point of view, a natural progression to move to and therefore I wasn't as surprised (still unfortunate though). I've always considered getting a Plus subscription and I guess this makes the final push for me. Luckily I feel that the features of Plus help ease the pain of having to pay for the one of the features that made Sony popular last generation.
I also assume that PS3 online gaming will remain free.
I had a slight anticipation that Sony would stop free online gaming because it seemed from a business point of view, a natural progression to move to and therefore I wasn't as surprised (still unfortunate though). I've always considered getting a Plus subscription and I guess this makes the final push for me. Luckily I feel that the features of Plus help ease the pain of having to pay for the one of the features that made Sony popular last generation.
I also assume that PS3 online gaming will remain free.
Not at once, but often once I fill up my allocation of 20 characters or 50 mechs or whatever, I have to move on to a different account if I want to make any more without deleting them. The PS+ apparently only does one account, although I might be able to use that across multiple 'users', but even so, sometimes I do have different accounts for different things. Oh well.Strazdas said:
Yeah, it's a pretty arbitrary limitation, especially considering you can start a game on a new account anyway.
Alright, I love free things as much as the next guy. Free online gaming is the main reason I bought a PS3. But I'm okay with this. I already had PS+ and it was pretty good. Free games, demos, and so on. So yeah, if PS+ remains as good as it is right now, I won't mind. Hell, I'm paying MS to play online anyway and I'm not getting anything out of it.
*Shrug* So what? i'll be saving £5 a month or so by cancelling my Xbox Live subscription so for me its more like migrating to another service than having an extra cost.
As long as they continue to give free games and such like they currently do its a win still IMO
As long as they continue to give free games and such like they currently do its a win still IMO
I used prepaid cards bought from retail, now moving to Paypal as it looks like it's finally an option.lunavixen said:
At least the F2P MMOs (Planetside 2, DCUO...) will not require PS+ and some other games decided by publishers. Yoshida confirmed thisdeadish said:
It looks like things are going to move to that direction, Yoshida says that the strategy this gen will be different from PS3's "lower costs and cut corners to keep services and features cheap" tactic they used post-launch. Only time will tellTh37thTrump3t said:
"Our plan is to continue to invest in the future, but investing like this is not compatible with our previous policy that involved reducing costs by every mean to keep the service free. [http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/12/e3-2013-sonys-shuhei-yoshida-shares-relevant-details-on-playstation-plus-requirement-for-multiplayer-on-ps4/]"