PS4 The Playroom Being Used by Some People for Live Sex Shows

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Madame_Lawliet

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I didn't know it was that kind of play room!
*bu-dum-tiss*

In all seriousness this was not a matter of if, it was a matter of when. It will be interesting to see what kind of PR speak Sony wheels out to sidestep any kind of controversy though, but I doubt this'll blow up.
 

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Alex Co said:
Just imagine what the little robots are feeling while they're exposed to people doing the nasty live.
"Please, won't somebody think of the robots?!"

Xsjadoblayde said:
Wait, little robots? What exactly do you mean? Like a sort of microsoft office screen companion such as the paperclip? I can just imagine the various speech bubble advice coming from it already.
It looks like you're trying to OH MY GOD MY EYES I CAN'T UN-SEE IT...
 

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putowtin said:
Am I the only one thinking "I'd have cleaned the room before hand!?"
why clean it. show off your peasantry in full swing!

also the kind of people that would stream their sex live are unlikely be the ones that care that strnagers see some trashi n thier room.

Raziel said:
Why do I only ever hear about this on the playroom? Shouldn't this be a problem on kinnect too?
Kinect does not have a "just couple clicks" way of streaming kinect camera to twitch. PS4 has via playroom.

Jamash said:
When people are broadcasting themselves having sex and other's are watching the Playroom streams, which country's legal age of consent has jurisdiction and decides whether or not they're broadcasting underage pornography?

For example, if a Playstation 4 owner in the UK had sex with his 16 year old girlfriend on Playroom, but that was viewed by someone in America, would he be breaking US laws despite not breaking UK laws, or would only the US Playstation 4 owner be guilty of possessing or viewing child pornography?

On the other hand, since Sony is a Japanese company and this is a Japanese console, is this all governed by Japan's age of consent of just 13, and have the potential to get a lot of Western doors in the US and UK kicked in and have a lot of Western PS4s seized by the police because their owners had stumbled into a Playroom featuring the sex antics of a 13 year old Japanese girl?

How long is it going to be before some angry parent sues Sony for easily allowing their son or daughter to accidentally view under-age porn, or for supplying their household with unsolicited and unwanted child porn? After all, I'm pretty sure that nowhere on the PS4's packaging does it warn purchasers that it can be used to view live sex shows, so at the very least Sony could be sued for irresponsible advertising or not warning parents of the pornographic capabilities of the games console they bough their children for Christmas.
when it comes to streaming, its the countries where the stream is hosted laws. Since Twitch is US based, they have to oblidge to US laws, and thus means US age restriction. Unless they got a branch-company that hosts servers in UK or something, in which case it gets more muddy. This is also why me posting from europe still have to follow US law because escapist is hosted in US.
the console is just a tool. They cannot be held responsible just like a camera manufacturer cannot be held accountable for somoen using it to film a murder.

Xman490 said:
Anyone else find it incredibly funny how people find live porn so objectionable? Sure, set such streams aside and away from people who do not want to see it, but banning it is just mean-spirited towards people who watch them. It even goes against the business interest of increasing viewership.

Such is the plight of the Western culture we have today. Hey, it could be worse.
I think its not so much as its a live porn but as it is using a game streaming feature for nongaming content thing. they are basically misusing the tools. There is also a thing that Twitch has a 13+ age rating instead of 18+ which get some peoples panties in a twitsh because 13 year olds can only see brutal killing and not sex.
 

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Welp, this was about as inevitable as the tides xD

Seriously, did Sony expect anything less? Camera + live streaming options = pornography.

...Actually, scratch that, camera = pornography. Yeah, I'm surprised we didn't hear about this earlier.
 

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I remember reading articles on the Internet about people exposing themselves on Xbox Live UNO using the Xbox 360 Vision Camera.
Funny **** truth be told.
 

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Alex Co said:
PS4 The Playroom Being Used by Some People for Live Sex Shows

Arguably, putting a camera and an audience to people might mean that live sex shows are inevitability, but at this day and age, what's the point? Just by using your browser or going to Google alone, people can be exposed to as much nakedness, and porn as they want. Then again, with the "shows" gaining traction, that might be the answer why some people do it. I do feel bad for Sony, though, and I can see them acting swiftly to take action against offenders. Let's hope they don't outright discontinue The Playroom itself for the sake of those using it legitimately.

Source: Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/hey-sony-people-are-having-sex-live-on-the-ps4-1561594024?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow]

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Proofread? Nothing is misspelled, but this paragraph suddenly got sloppy with a couple of missing words and an incorrect word (if I'm going to pick nits), while the first paragraph was fine. Did The Playroom become a distraction?

OT: It's a strange phenomenon, I think. Are the participants broadcasting monetized "performances"? Or, are they doing this simply for fun, and exhibition for exhibition's sake. If both, I'd like to see a comparison between the two to see which is more common. If the latter is more common, I wonder what - if anything - that says about human sexuality and the desire to see and broadcast sexual activity.

Also, as the photo would indicate, these individuals represent the peak of human evolution. If only all of us were walking petri dishes -- I mean -- * so gifted *.
 

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fix-the-spade said:
Well that's a surprise.

Said nobody outside of Sony HQ ever

Seriously, give humans a method of communicating and sooner or later it will be used for sex. How could they not see this coming? More pertinently, why did they include either an adults only partition for the service or put it in the TOS that everything uploaded has to be PG13 or M rated on pain of having yor PSN account closed?

I can' wait for Fox to get a hold of this, it'll drive PS4 sales through the ceiling.

Tonight! Porn Station Fourplay as Sony's flagship device is exposed for the lewd and disgusting perveyor off free pornography that it is

One week later.

Tonight! Sony reports Playstation Four sales exceeding all forecasts as factories strain to match demand, claim a six month waiting list
I remember Fox News article on the Mass Effect "alien sex" thing and they called the Xbox 36o a Sexbox 360.
 

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vagabondwillsmile said:
Alex Co said:
PS4 The Playroom Being Used by Some People for Live Sex Shows

Arguably, putting a camera and an audience to people might mean that live sex shows are inevitability, but at this day and age, what's the point? Just by using your browser or going to Google alone, people can be exposed to as much nakedness, and porn as they want. Then again, with the "shows" gaining traction, that might be the answer why some people do it. I do feel bad for Sony, though, and I can see them acting swiftly to take action against offenders. Let's hope they don't outright discontinue The Playroom itself for the sake of those using it legitimately.

Source: Kotaku [http://kotaku.com/hey-sony-people-are-having-sex-live-on-the-ps4-1561594024?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow]

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Proofread? Nothing is misspelled, but this paragraph suddenly got sloppy with a couple of missing words and an incorrect word (if I'm going to pick nits), while the first paragraph was fine. Did The Playroom become a distraction?

OT: It's a strange phenomenon, I think. Are the participants broadcasting monetized "performances"? Or, are they doing this simply for fun, and exhibition for exhibition's sake. If both, I'd like to see a comparison between the two to see which is more common. If the latter is more common, I wonder what - if anything - that says about human sexuality and the desire to see and broadcast sexual activity.

Also, as the photo would indicate, these individuals represent the peak of human evolution. If only all of us were walking petri dishes -- I mean -- * so gifted *.
has one not heard of dogging? This must be for the agrophobic doggers.
Humans will get off on all kinds of crap. This is hardly the tip of the seedy iceburg, my beautifully innocent friend ;)
 

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Once again a corporation is blindsided by a basic tenet of human psychology: When confronted with a new technology or object, one of the two primary questions your average person will ask him- or herself is "can I use this for sex?". (The other is "can I use this for killing?".)
 

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As distasteful as it is to use Playroom for this kind of thing, there is something rather hilarious about the image of the little robot dude to standing there, dumbstruck, at all the sex going on.
 

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Forgive my ignorance (I am still "current" gen), but there's a room for people to watch people playing games and not the games they are playing?

Exactly how bored are these viewers?
 

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A few days ago, a friend linked me one of these videos. It showed a man playing vidya while his heavily pregnant girlfriend, as drunk as the sea is wet, swayed next to him while drinking a beer. I presume she was his girlfriend; we weren't actually told in the video. Nonetheless, it was pretty disturbing.

I would have rathered that they'd just fucked instead.
 

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kaizen2468 said:
Just another way ps4 wins
Actually, I'm inclined to agree

Putting aside my heartily admitted enjoyment in the sight of wanton & free sexual expression, I don't think this is a "problem to be fixed" for Sony, so much a market to be properly implimented

Implement some sort of "NSFW; 18 only" message before entering channels that opt into it (& I know not everyone will opt in, but you'll have that) & you've more or less solved the dilemma. PSN already takes age verification when you subscribe, so it could even be automated

"Problem" solved
 

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Xman490 said:
Anyone else find it incredibly funny how people find live porn so objectionable? Sure, set such streams aside and away from people who do not want to see it, but banning it is just mean-spirited towards people who watch them. It even goes against the business interest of increasing viewership.

Such is the plight of the Western culture we have today. Hey, it could be worse.
One could say the reverse too. "Anyone else find it incredibly funny how people find forcing live porn [on others] so objectionable?" Personally I'm in my twenties and I don't want to see idiotic masses of flesh griding against other, which is why I stay away from certain sites and why I would find something like this rageworthy.

Such is the plight of Western culture. We're not allowed to force pornography on people who don't want it or shouldn't be seeing it in the first place.

Such is the plight of Western culture, isn't it funny how people find real images of beheadings and brutality so objectionable?

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Quite frankly I hope the idiots that do this get perma-banned. I'd rather them be thrown in a pit and left to die, but such is the plight of Western culture.

Yeah, it's always about the West as well isn't it?
 

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Funnily enough, an earlier survey said something about PS4 users being more likely to use their PS4 to watch others do the nasty except not with something the console was intended for.

Life isn't a paint advertisement; if people can think of a way they can broadcast themselves doing the dirty then they'll probably do it. Because they're human
 

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Treeberry said:
Xman490 said:
Anyone else find it incredibly funny how people find live porn so objectionable? Sure, set such streams aside and away from people who do not want to see it, but banning it is just mean-spirited towards people who watch them. It even goes against the business interest of increasing viewership.

Such is the plight of the Western culture we have today. Hey, it could be worse.
One could say the reverse too. "Anyone else find it incredibly funny how people find forcing live porn [on others] so objectionable?" Personally I'm in my twenties and I don't want to see idiotic masses of flesh griding against other, which is why I stay away from certain sites and why I would find something like this rageworthy.

Yeah, it's always about the West as well isn't it?
Note that my second statement there was against forcing such material on people. Be careful not to go by the kind of fallacy Rush Limbaugh fell into when insulting Sandra Fluke. Even though I don't think pornography should be banned, I don't think everyone should be subjected to at least noticing it.

I'd like to see you come up with a better name for the culture that originated in Great Britain and has thus moved even farther west from Greece and Italy into the United States.
 

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Sony deserves it. Really, I was excited for "Playstation Home" when it was first announced because their original idea was to pretty much give users access to a free "Second Life" type experience through their console, where the users could do pretty much whatever they wanted, wherever they wanted. Needless to say someone then looked at "Second Life" and said "well, except for the naked people in the sky" (that was close to an exact quote). Then someone realized "well hey, if we let people create all their own stuff like Second Life, and don't charge premiums for storage space we're missing out on a potential goldmine. It's actually just easier if we let users create nothing and then sell all the clothes, furniture, and add ons ourselves and pocket the money. For a while they held onto video streaming but then as people make it clear "Oh cool, I'll stream my porno collection in my online suite for anyone that wants to see some truly demented stuff" they decided to pretty much kill the idea of video/audio sharing as well.... and to be honest
I've never logged into Playstation Home as a result.

The fact is that people are going to express themselves, and that means sexually, and sexual expression can get fairly warped. It's part of the human condition, and really people need to get use to it. Anyone who doesn't think any communications tool isn't going to be turned to communicating perverse material is fooling themselves. Really the oddest part of this is a company as paranoid as Sony never thought that a webcam attached to their consoles wouldn't be used for the same things webcams are used for on computers (and indeed some advertising campaigns have even revolved around the implied erotic uses).

Personally I still maintain the internet should be about freedom, and corporations, government censorship, and everything else can basically go pound sand somewhere. My basic attitude is that if you don't like it, create your own little virtual bubble somewhere and stay in it, and let everyone else have their fun. If your a parent, put your children into that "online bubble" and actually be a parent in policing it.

The thing that kind of gets me here is that I have no real interest in tracking down Playstation webcam porn (I mean I'm an adult, I can get as much porn as I want... and truthfully the fascination/urgency with porn for me passed long ago), but at the same time I kind of feel that if this is really want people to do with their time, go for it. Just label yourself appropriately, I mean you don't want to have some girl filming herself being triple penetrated show up as a file pretending to be footage from an "E" rated educational game for example. The people who do that (ie use the internet to expose themselves to children) are a separate situation, but again a lot of that comes down to parents not doing their jobs and screening material.