PSA: Blizzard Authenticators now Vulnerable to Keylogging

Altorin

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John Funk said:
Altorin said:
Hey Funk, was that Thanks to Proteus214 for the Update? If it was.. wtf?

ehh, whatever, my life will go on I suppose.
No, for the original post.
it's all good, my objection came off more serious then I meant for it to be :p
 

Bigsmith

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I think blizzard need to add something else and i no exaclty what, when u go to log in u type in ur user name and pass word, ur authenticator is u have one. But then a numpad appears on screen with the numbers 1-9 on in a random order, u then using mouse only click in your 4 digit code with the order of the numbers changing every time u press one, in order to log in.
U would recieve this number as an email a few days b4 the system comes out.

anyone who has played Runescape members should no what im talking about. the runescape bank pin.
 

WhiteTigerShiro

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Mornelithe said:
Not worried, my authenticator is safely retired along with my copy of wow.
Sadly, the only way to be safe from having your WoW account attacked.

Frankly, I saw this coming a couple years back when I first heard about the Authenticator. Not that I don't applaud the effort, the authenticator is an awesome idea (though I don't want a lot of companies to start using the idea, lest I be running around with 20+ authenticators), but I knew it would only be a matter of time before the gold farmers found a way around it.

But again, as the MMO Champion article says, it isn't any reason to not have an authenticator... at least for the time being. Those gold farmers are tenacious little fucks, so we can (uneasily) rest assured that this is only the scouting party, with the army just beyond the horizon.
 

jerrrry

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Khell_Sennet said:
My bank account is really, really secure. And just recently, my bank gave out new cards with these handy-dandy chips embedded in them to make it even MORE secure. Didn't have to pay ten bucks for the card, and if anything goes wrong with my account for reasons beyond my control, THEY have to make it right again.

Maybe Blizzard's authenticator wouldn't piss me off so much if it didn't cost the end-user, since we already have to pay monthly fees for the game. If you're charging for the software itself, then charging for monthly access, I'd damn well expect better security as part of the deal. But then, if you charge a further amount for that better security, it had better be 100% foolproof. 99% doesn't cut it, 75% doesn't cut it, 100%! Otherwise, if someone has the authenticator, and it fails, Blizzard had better be willing to refund the cost of the damn thing, plus refund the full amount paid for the services and software, because 3 years of gameplay can be wiped out faster than you can say "Mumorpeger".
There is no such thing as a 100% secure system. Enough time and money (and ingenuity) can break any system. A system is also only as strong as it's weakest part. In the case of WoW authenticator, the weakest link is arguably the Windows OS. They have done a lot to make it a non-trivial issue to crack someone's WoW account, but there's plenty of ways to get into a person's computer to see what they are doing or take control, so for any way they try to make it more complex to log in to WoW on your PC, there will be ways to break the system for people who want to badly enough.

By the way, your bank account is secure partially because you don't insert your debit card into your PC. If you used online banking (which is currently very popular and has much more at risk then a WoW account...at least for people with what most would consider normal priorities in life) then it would not be much more difficult for someone with a key-logger on your system to get your account ID and PIN for your bank account. If you are not careful with your system, bad things can happen no matter what anyone else does to try and guard their software against it.
 

FBPH

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Aura Guardian said:
FBPH said:
Aura Guardian said:
chippa6 said:
Khell_Sennet said:
All that's left is a smattering of indie developers and Nintendo.
You talk about Blizzard making a cash grab, what about Nintendo making you buy mountains of plastic crap every month for some new game that just ends up gathering dust.

I don't think there are many publishers with Blizzard's track record of extremely polished and enjoyable games.
May take a longer time but it is worth it
All they made was a wheel,motion plus,wii mote and a nun-chuck. You're talking about the 3rd party stuff.
What about the mandatory Motion Plus for certain titles? What about the Wii Fit? Or the weird health sensor thing coming up? Hell the Wii "controller" is a wiimote + peripheral nunchuk.
A lot of new title will be needed it. So it's not a waste. What about the Wii fit? Play Skate it or Shaun White. They are a blast. Not out yet so I have no comment. And...you need those to play the games. What about them?
Well seeing as those peripherals are needed, wouldn't that be more of a cashgrab? And I had only intended to give other examples of official Nintendo peripherals
 

WhiteTigerShiro

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Mornelithe said:
You know what's wierd, I've never actually had any account hacked, wow, email, anything. The only reason I got my authenticator for WoW, was because I was a high officer with full access to the guild bank, and several officers had their accounts hacked, the GM included. Even after I became guild master, still never got hacked, but the authenticator was more for the 7.5K gold I'm walking around with ;)
For the most part (I'm sure there are exceptions), you have to do something stupid to get your account hacked. And by "stupid", I mean that you have to fall for one of those links they like to spam around the WoW Forums that are usually pretty obvious once you've seen more than a few of them and know how they look. Admittedly they do get tricky about it. Last I checked (which was about a year ago), they were actually using multiple accounts to post mock conversations. The first one would be a guy making the topic with the link that would put a key logger on your system, then they actually put the effort into having about 5 or 6 follow-up accounts all post replies to what's supposedly inside the link. They actually noticed how people will read a topic before going to a link, and learned from it. Granted it was still a lot of broken english and the link still looked like a key-logger link, so it was still easy to spot if you were looking for it, but it really goes to show you how much they'll adapt to try and attack people's accounts.

Anywho, that tangent aside, unless you go to a site that sneaks the logger into your system, there's really no way they can attack your account. This is why sharing your account is considered a bad idea: You don't know if the other person (or people) is going to get a key logger on his system. Like this one guildy of mine; smart guy when it came to avoiding key loggers, except that he shared his account with a couple friends. So despite his own ability to identify and avoid key logger sites, he still ended-up having his account attacked because one of his friends must have done something stupid.
 

crimsonhawk

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they actually have 15 seconds to hack your account. authenticators rotate their 6 digit number after that amount of time.
 

DragonChi

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My Wow Account has been hacked into twice. the first time made me stop playing and I lost 90% of my original interest in the game. but after the second time...I was like..ok..that's enough. i bought the authenticator. it is a little annoying having to type in extra stuff to get in my account. but given what ive been through. all my stuff sharded twice. i feel safer with this thing than without it. and I have 2 REALLY good anti-viral softwares running. so while i will be more conscientious with this new key logger. I feel pretty secure.
 

Litchhunter

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Khell_Sennet said:
So let me get this straight...

Blizzard comes out with this stupid fucking device that you use to access your games, which the player has to pay for, but it promises that your account will be secured against account theft... Then, their ten-dollar cash-grab doesn't even fucking work?

Between this, the splitting of Starcraft II, the huge delays on Starcraft II, the lack of LAN in Starcraft II, The whole "it's too colorful" fiasco of the still decades-away Diablo 3, and the new (and horrible) Battle.net system that is being forced on us for even single-player use AND webstore purchases... I have literally ZERO faith in this company these days, and my WoW plushie order that I am waiting on will probably be the last Blizzard product I ever buy.

So the boycott list to date is UbiSoft for their excessive DRM plan, 2K/Take2 for their DRM offenses which were most notable in the Bioshock series, the vast majority of EA titles for their criminal use of SecuROM and that travesty called EA Downloader, Valve for mandatory Steam, and Bungie for their refusal to make XP compatible PC games. Fuck, if it weren't for Squenix and GPG working on SuCom2, I'd say I've pretty much written off gaming entirely. All that's left is a smattering of indie developers and Nintendo.
I'm praying that this new found failer of Blizzard's is due to being with Activision, which hopeful will go down the shit pipe soon if IW gets their way, and even if they don't, thats still alot of bad press.
 

Danpascooch

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That's pretty ingenious.

Seriously though, it seems like all of these damn malicious files are .dll extensions, I wish there was some way I could get my computer to ask permission every time a .dll file is going to be added, since they aren't common file extensions to be added to your computer regularly, it'd really cut down on infections.
 

cefm

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Better yet, stop downloading so much porn.

It's not like they can just put this virus on your computer from orbit - you have to download something that has it and install it.
 

Antari

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Step #1 .. right click gold spammers name
Step #2 click on report spam
Step #3 don't visit the website they were spamming

Problem solved. I know its 3 steps and it can get pretty difficult ... but its worth it.