PSOne vs. N64: Which was the better system?

[cj_iwakura]

The true winner.

 

[RagingMetrosexual]

The PS1 was probably the better system but the N64 had far better games.

My life would not be the same had it not been graced by Banjo Kazooie.

 

[Lazy Kitty]

N64 had Zelda.
N64 wins.

I did own both, though.

I agree, even though I didn't own either (wouldn't know where to get one, but that's what emulators are for, some friends of mine used to have them though).

 

[phoenixbeast]

I have to go with the N64...When I was growing up, there was a group of friends...2 ad N64s (1 being me) and 2 had PS1s...Which one did everyone always have a more enjoyable time on...The N64s...Everyone could play at the same time...Cause I noticed everyone in this thread forgot the single greatest party game of all time...MARIO PARTY (1 or 2, take your pick)...If I missed someone saying that I'm sorry...But who didn't enjoy an all night 50 turn game that lasted forever and came down to the final few turns...And lets not forget Smash Bros...Multiple times we would set up 10-50 stock matches and just go to town...

Then games like Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask...Those were games that we didn't mind watching and taking turns...Cause they were awesome even if you only got to play every so often...Heck, I didn't even play (I wasn't confident with my gaming skills and always watched) Ocarina of Time until after the gamecube was out...I played it through AND after all this time still loved every moment of it...

Last year a friend and I did a 100% run through of Mario 64...Still as great as it once was...Then theres Kirby 64...Where with the right combinations you could give Kirby exploding throwing stars, a giant flaming sword, or a double bladed lightsaber...Pokemon Stadium is still a blast, and Rogue Squadron is still one of the greatest Star Wars games of all time...

I could go on but this post is getting long...My vote N64...

 

[EzraPound]

Is this a joke? FFVII, MGS, Tekken 3, Castlevania SOTN, Abe's Odyssey, Abe's Exodus, Speed Freaks, Crash Bandicoot 1 2 and 3, Heart Of Darkness, Spiderman(the good version), Kurushi, Next Tetris, Wipeout 3, Blood Omen Legacy Of Kain and Soul Reaver, Gran Turismo, Croc 1 and 2, Bust A Move 3, Rollcage, Rollcage Stage 2, Crash Team Racing, Muppet Racemania, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Street Fighter Ex2 Plus (Garuda will stitch your face off), Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Silent Hill...

Ummm... the N64 had that many good games. And while the PSX beat the hell out of the 64 in terms of JRPGs, 2D platformers, and tourney fighters, crap like Crash Bandicoot was a joke compared to what 3D platformers the N64 had to offer, the 64 had superior shooters in the Turok series and GoldenEye/Perfect Dark, and it featured as many good sports games (the PSX had more, but the 64 got ports of alot of them - NHL '99 and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 & 2, for example - and the 64 had wonderful stuff like Mario Tennis and Mario Golf):

- StarFox 64
- Paper Mario
- Super Mario 64
- Pilotwings 64
- Body Harvest
- Space Station Silicon Valley
- Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
- Sin & Punishment: Successor to the Earth
- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
- The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
- Conker's Bad Fur Day
- Turok 2: Seeds of Evil
- Turok: Rage Wars
- Harvest Moon 64
- GoldenEye 007
- Perfect Dark
- Blast Corps.
- Duke Nukem 64
- Resident Evil 2
- Pokémon Puzzle League
- Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
- Star Wars: Episode I: Battle for Naboo
- Bust-A-Move 2: Arcade Edition
- Rayman 2: The Great Escape
- Rocket: Robot on Wheels
- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
- Beetle Adventure Racing!
- Super Smash Bros.
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Banjo-Tooie
- Mario Kart 64
- Wave Race 64
- Spider-Man
- Mario Golf
- Mario Tennis
- Shadow Man

 

[slopeslider]

Way to address my points. I guess then the NES is superior to the ps3. Cause the vijeogamez define the system. When the 360 first launched, the atari 2600 was suprerior to it thanks to its diverse catalog of awesome games, right?

This discussion amuses me. I wish to hear more of your replies.

Except you have nothing to discuss. The thread is about the merits of the PS1 vs the N64. You're just taking the argument into an extreme after realizing that you were wrong just so you can feel like you actually have `some ground to stand on (which you do). For this to be an actual discussion, both of us have to have legitimate points. I dont have any. I'm just an idiot. With bad grammar.

YOU, SIR, ARE MISTAKEN.
I used your argument about how the games make the system, and now its invalid? Because you deem it extreme? I deem your point of the games making the system invalid.

'Would you rather play tony hawk pro skater 2 on ps1 or on n64?'
Now your answer is dependent on which is the better system and not which has the better library of highly rated games.
LIKE I SAID.
-_-
Quickly now, reply. I grow impatient.

 

[Go Fighting In The War Room]

Dreamcast.

/thread
OT: to me they both were strong in different ways so I cannot give a definite answer so... both (dreamcast still wins)

Fellow Sega Fan? [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Escapist-Sega-Fans] High Fives!

 

[cj_iwakura]

Except Saturn was around during the N64/PS1 era, only everyone ignored it.

I have more Dreamcast games than Saturn ones, but the Saturn gems are so amazing that they make it essential.
(Dragon Force alone = life.)

 

[katsabas]

Ummm... the N64 had that many good games. And while the PSX beat the hell out of the 64 in terms of JRPGs, 2D platformers, and tourney fighters, crap like Crash Bandicoot...

Agree with the post except that one point.
Crap? Ha ha, good one. Care to justify?

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

The PS1 had a ton of great RPGs, and a couple of good platformers.

The N64 had a ton of great platformers, and very few good non-first party games.

I give it to the PS1, just for the sheer mass of great games of nearly all genres.

Fighting: Soul something...not calibur, but its predecessor.
Platforming: Spyro, Crash
RPGs: FF7, 8, 9, Chrono Cross, Legend of Mana, Dragoon, and SaGa Frontier 1+2. Even more.
Racing: Gran Fucking Turismo

 

[TOGSolid]

Way to address my points. I guess then the NES is superior to the ps3. Cause the vijeogamez define the system. When the 360 first launched, the atari 2600 was suprerior to it thanks to its diverse catalog of awesome games, right?

This discussion amuses me. I wish to hear more of your replies.

Except you have nothing to discuss. The thread is about the merits of the PS1 vs the N64. You're just taking the argument into an extreme after realizing that you were wrong just so you can feel like you actually have `some ground to stand on (which you do). For this to be an actual discussion, both of us have to have legitimate points. I dont have any. I'm just an idiot. With bad grammar.

YOU, SIR, ARE MISTAKEN.
I used your argument about how the games make the system, and now its invalid? Because you deem it extreme? I deem your point of the games making the system invalid.

'Would you rather play tony hawk pro skater 2 on ps1 or on n64?'
Now your answer is dependent on which is the better system and not which has the better library of highly rated games.
LIKE I SAID.
-_-
Quickly now, reply. I grow impatient.

Except:
A) I never owned either system.
and
B) Now you're just trying to frame your original horseshit ramblings in the frame of a more pertinent question, in which rather than just try and start a discussion, you'll just sit there and go "aha" and attempt to feel smug. However, the answer you were hoping for is not the answer you're going to get. If I had to pick, I'd pick the N64. Why? Because I preferred that system's game selection. Goldeneye ftw. Am I just answering this way to be a dick? Nope, that's just how I pick my consoles. For instance, back when the 360 and PS3 were new, I picked the 360 because it had the games I wanted to play. Not because the hardware was better or worse, but because it had the selection I wanted. As I've said a million times over, a console without games is just a useless brick.

Now, once again, do yourself a favor, read the original post, and then remove yourself from the genepool due to your mental handicaps. Thanks.

 

[the_dancy_vagrant]

Meh, in retrospect both systems had a crapload of shovelware out for them... but that's gonna be true for any console that's ever been or ever will be. I tend to go for the PS1, though, because I have fonder memories of a lot of the games that were out for it at the time. I also had an N64 but I didn't really like too many games that came out that weren't developed by Nintendo.

Dancy_vagrant does like the following:
On the PS1 - Castlevania:SOTN, Metal Gear Solid, Legacy of Kain: soul reaver, FF7 & FF tactics, Resident evil 1,2,& 3, Gran Turismo 1&2, Rival Schools, Tekken 3, Einhander, wipeout, tenchu, armored core...probably tons of others I can't remember.

On the N64 - Mario Kart 64, Zelda: OOT, goldeneye, Starfox 64, Extreme G. Probably a few others, but not many.


That's about the size of it. Lots of games for the 64 that I played I either couldn't get into or outright hated. The thing that really made me angry was the sheer price of new N64 games...$79.99 or more, and them's 1997 dollars mind you. By the time it got to the graphics cartridge upgrade I'd already pretty much given up on the system as being too expensive and far too often hit or miss for games I actually liked.

 

[slopeslider]

Way to address my points. I guess then the NES is superior to the ps3. Cause the vijeogamez define the system. When the 360 first launched, the atari 2600 was suprerior to it thanks to its diverse catalog of awesome games, right?

This discussion amuses me. I wish to hear more of your replies.

Except you have nothing to discuss. The thread is about the merits of the PS1 vs the N64. You're just taking the argument into an extreme after realizing that you were wrong just so you can feel like you actually have `some ground to stand on (which you do). For this to be an actual discussion, both of us have to have legitimate points. I dont have any. I'm just an idiot. With bad grammar.

YOU, SIR, ARE MISTAKEN.
I used your argument about how the games make the system, and now its invalid? Because you deem it extreme? I deem your point of the games making the system invalid.

'Would you rather play tony hawk pro skater 2 on ps1 or on n64?'
Now your answer is dependent on which is the better system and not which has the better library of highly rated games.
LIKE I SAID.
-_-
Quickly now, reply. I grow impatient.

Except:
A) I never owned either system.
and
B) Now you're just trying to frame your original horseshit ramblings in the frame of a more pertinent question, in which rather than just try and start a discussion, you'll just sit there and go "aha" and attempt to feel smug. However, the answer you were hoping for is not the answer you're going to get. If I had to pick, I'd pick the N64. Why? Because I preferred that system's game selection. Goldeneye ftw. Am I just answering this way to be a dick? Nope, that's just how I pick my consoles. For instance, back when the 360 and PS3 were new, I picked the 360 because it had the games I wanted to play. Not because the hardware was better or worse, but because it had the selection I wanted. As I've said a million times over, a console without games is just a useless brick.

Now, once again, do yourself a favor, read the original post, and then remove yourself from the genepool due to your mental handicaps. Thanks.

Tl;DR
I wonder how many more times I must post before you stop replying.
And for all that talking you didnt go anywhere. You like n64 more? At least we agree on that.

'A console without games is a useless brick'
SOOO I guess a ps3 with no games is COMPLETELY USELESS, nevermind the online stores and blu-ray player. As is my ds with r4 in it, which hasn't been used other than listening to mp3's for 3 months.
Your logic does not hold water when applied to the real world, I demonstrated it earlier with the NES huge library against the ps3's but you said it was an extreme example. Most likely because it showed the flawed foundation of your argument.
And you STILL
STILL.
didnt answer which you'd rather play tony hawk on. Your answer would be dependent on which was the better system, not which had the better library. Which is why you avoided it and instead wasted time with insults. I however will not stoop so low as to insult strangers on the interweb.
guy 1:"So which is the better pc system; Mac OSX or the original windows?
guy 2: 'Which has more good programs?'
guy 1: You can EMULATE windows on mac OSX!
guy 2: I REJECT YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN.
Kowaika?

 

[funguy2121]

And once again, hardware is useless without games. Look at the very first post of this thread. Tthe OP was talking about the games released for each system and their overall quality.

You seem to be just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

IM not arguing, the title says best system and not best library.
Or else I could say the snes is a better system than the ps3 beacause it has more games rated better than the ps3 library and has more split screen multiplayer. But that would be crazy. Maybe you can say the games are better, you like it more and it helped expand the gaming market more than the ps3 did but it's not the better system. And I didn't even say which of the 2 consoles was better, only the strengths of each.

I wonder if all that fog would have been abated/eliminated had Nintendo (wisely) decided to go to disc with the '64. Aside from that, the system embodied the first real jump into 3D and the first console to have real 3D FPS's. What's a real 3D FPS, you ask? Why, it's one where an enemy or a tree actually has a back and 2 sides and a top and isn't a paper cutout like in Doom (much love), and there are actually different levels so you're not just constantly turning right or left.

My problem with the PSOne is that it never seemed to generate many good games, not even many 3D games even though it existed in the era of 3D. The developers could have capitalized upon the N64's shortcomings and really pushed gaming forward (like dozens of PS-TWO games did), but instead they focused on churning out the world's first big batch of shovelwear for the world's first casual gaming machine.

Oh look, the OP was all about the merits of the hardware and the issues with the game library from a specific console generation.

Enjoy your fail.

You two calm down or I'll make you both sit on your hands. Don't make me come back there!

 

[Dark42]

N64 hands down!

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

Nintendo 64... I owned both systems, but I only recall playing the original Crash Bandicoot on the PS. Meanwhile, I had Starfox 64, Mario 64, Mariokart 64, Golden Eye 64, Banjo-Kazooie and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time on the Nintendo 64.