Quentin Tarantino Halts The Hateful Eight Over Script Leak
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Yeah, mine is a little more "somebody who hasn't stabbed me in the back yet".Flames66 said:
Unless somebody is a bit of a dick then you get on with just about everybody, so friends are just accumulated like snow round a rolling rock. Then the inevitable back stab comes and you go your separate ways after a handful of weeks of unpleasantness. Then you make new friends and the cycle continues ...
Kind of a vicious cycle really.
For most people who criticize Tarantino, the problem isn't the fact that he has his own style. The issue they have is that he repeats that style in all of his movies. Think Bioware with characters. It's great if you like their characters, but if you don't, you'll run into trouble, since Bioware has a tendency to stick to templates in order to make their characters. They may warp the template a bit, and they definitely do a good job of making the characters developed rather than cardboard, but that doesn't change the fact that if you don't like, say, HK-47 in KOTOR (trust me, it is possible. I think. Maybe.), you aren't going to like Shale in Dragon Age, because they are almost identical.reiniat said:
In other words, "having your own style" is only the first step. The more important step is to make that style work. Maybe play with it a little, develop it. Tarantino really doesn't do that. He'll change settings, but all of his movies are painted with the same brush, so to speak. And if you don't like that brush, you aren't going to like Tarantino's movies.
Interesting world view. It does seem rather cynical to me, but then I suppose my approach of only counting a very few people I trust as friends could also be viewed as cynical. I suppose you have the advantage of betrayal being less damaging as you are already prepared for it.omega 616 said:
Hope Tarantino changes his mind on this, I like his work and it'd be a shame to see the film get put down because of this.
And I doubt anyone will come forward with the leak, it could very well kill their career. Hollywood's all about who you know and Tarantino's a well respected and famous director, you don't want him damning you.
Also a couple people have said Madsen may have done it, but Tarantino says he gave it to 6 people while the article only mentions 4 (Roth, Madsen, Dern and Hudlin). I don't think Madsen did it, he was in Tarantino's early work, they've history and Tarantino wouldn't have given him an early script if there was bad blood. Maybe it was one of the unnamed people whoever they may be.
Anyway, hope Tarantino cools off and has a change of heart and decides to go ahead with the film anyway.
And I doubt anyone will come forward with the leak, it could very well kill their career. Hollywood's all about who you know and Tarantino's a well respected and famous director, you don't want him damning you.
Also a couple people have said Madsen may have done it, but Tarantino says he gave it to 6 people while the article only mentions 4 (Roth, Madsen, Dern and Hudlin). I don't think Madsen did it, he was in Tarantino's early work, they've history and Tarantino wouldn't have given him an early script if there was bad blood. Maybe it was one of the unnamed people whoever they may be.
Anyway, hope Tarantino cools off and has a change of heart and decides to go ahead with the film anyway.
Bah, things like that are never that simple.
Maybe someone forgot their bag on the subway?
Or the nice cleaning lady noticed the script sitting on someone's desk?
Jumping from a leaked script to betrayal seems pretty irrational.
Maybe someone forgot their bag on the subway?
Or the nice cleaning lady noticed the script sitting on someone's desk?
Jumping from a leaked script to betrayal seems pretty irrational.
Ugh? that sucks.
I really don't blame him though. It's a real bummer to think that you can trust people with something. I've had to sign a bunch of NDA's and secrecy contracts working in this (film) industry, and it's never been an issue for me to keep my mouth shut. But it happens all the time. I can give you an example:
(Don't worry, the project is done, and the NDA is expired)
I was called on to play a soldier in August: Osage County. (I don't know if it's any good or not, as I haven't seen the film, nor do I have any idea of I'm in the final cut). The casting director called me the week before I was to be fitted (unusual because this type of communication typically happens over email) and tells me to be ready to go at a moment's notice. A few days later, he calls again and gives me a time and place. The time was later that day. A few days later I get another phone call with another time and and place, which I was to be at the next morning (the call was around midnight). This practice was done with every person on the set, and the location was still leaked. It doesn't bother me to keep secrets. I'm former military, so it's no big deal for me to operate in a world where you can say nothing about what you're actually doing. My family jokes that I actually work for the CIA.
Needless to say, some people just can't keep their mouths shut. And they really need to.
Especially if we're going to lose films like Hateful Eight. I was looking forward to that one.
I really don't blame him though. It's a real bummer to think that you can trust people with something. I've had to sign a bunch of NDA's and secrecy contracts working in this (film) industry, and it's never been an issue for me to keep my mouth shut. But it happens all the time. I can give you an example:
(Don't worry, the project is done, and the NDA is expired)
I was called on to play a soldier in August: Osage County. (I don't know if it's any good or not, as I haven't seen the film, nor do I have any idea of I'm in the final cut). The casting director called me the week before I was to be fitted (unusual because this type of communication typically happens over email) and tells me to be ready to go at a moment's notice. A few days later, he calls again and gives me a time and place. The time was later that day. A few days later I get another phone call with another time and and place, which I was to be at the next morning (the call was around midnight). This practice was done with every person on the set, and the location was still leaked. It doesn't bother me to keep secrets. I'm former military, so it's no big deal for me to operate in a world where you can say nothing about what you're actually doing. My family jokes that I actually work for the CIA.
Needless to say, some people just can't keep their mouths shut. And they really need to.
Especially if we're going to lose films like Hateful Eight. I was looking forward to that one.
I feel like it's getting more tiresome with time. His movies feature clever directing, intriguing casting choices, etc.., but not being a film studies or Hollywood buff, those things just don't interest me all that much. To me, his movies offer very little to treat the intellect, often going the opposite direction and pandering too hard (i.e. the director's puerile approaches to 'mature content'). The same goes for Robert Rodriguez and Eli Roth, who wouldn't have careers if audiences weren't addicted to pornographic nonsense. Thinking back on Tarantino's films, I feel like I might enjoy 'Jackie Brown' if I saw it again, but I could probably go the rest of my life without seeing any of the others.thebobmaster said: