In the game, when someone becomes a l'cie (sp?), if they fail their focus they become a Corpse, but if they succeed they become crystallized? A no win type of deal? XD
question about FF13
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It's probably some new status effects. I wouldn't know personally but that is what it sounds like to me.
no, its story related. All the main characters are what are called l'cie (pronounced Luh-see) and they are feared by the citizens of cocoon, because they could turn into monsters.Sasquatch99 said:
I was confused at first, but yes, that is basically the deal, which is why the L'cie are NOT at all happy with their current living arrangements.
If they fail, they could turn into monsters and would have to be killed. If they succeed, the government does away with them.
At I think that's what is up.
yeah from all the past games this sounds like a new status effect...which blows, i already hated some of those, like "stone" or w/e that was, that one pissed me off before i had the magic to get rid of it
nooo... >_< ALL the main characters. Lightning, Sazh, Snowe, Vanille, Fang, Hope, they are ALL l'cie. Its not a status, that's what they are. The story surrounds the issues of the l'cie trying to live peacefully in cocoon... but definitely are not able to.gmaverick019 said:
no prob, the way he said it even had me confused and thinking it was a status effect at first.Sasquatch99 said:
*sigh* im made for this year. Mass effect 2 is just around the corner, and Final Fantasy XIII coming March 9! (please don't be like X-2 or 12, pleeeease...)
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Whoops, sorry to post twice!
hmm well i guess ill just have to see for myself when i play it then, if i dont like the game or that then ill just sell it back, no big deal, ill get a different game since there are tons of games coming out that im looking forward to this yearWillSimplyBe said:
As am I. It's just FF XIII but still.WillSimplyBe said:
And I've got to rebuy FF X-2. I believe I may have been blinkered over it. FF X still in my mind when I played it.
not to get into things here, and no disrespect but... its ALWAYS political drama!lordlee said:
Vaan was a horrible protagonist(IMO he had next to nothing to do with the plot), half the cast had such a minor amount of importance in the overall story. The only one stayed extremely relevant was Balthier, (Basch as well to a lesser extent) he should have been the main character. But then again, anyone would be better than Vaan... i'm sorry, I just feel that way. Also, the license system was... just completely stupid... The whole thing would have been much better with a job system, the gambit system was not nearly good enough.
Interesting ideas with crappy follow through are still just that, Ideas. It could have been nice, with a job system, better protagonist, better gambit system if they wanted to use a faux realtime fighting system...
I'm sorry man, you are entirely entitled to your opinion of this game, i definitely found it to be a low point in the series, and that isn't from someone who just played 7, 8, and 10. I've played EVERY final fantasy game in the main series and most of those outside of the main series.
Since it's not a spoiler (it's in the trailers) you see Serah becoming crystallized when she fulfills her focus.
I just finished watching the Japanese playthrough. I think this looks to be a great game!
I just finished watching the Japanese playthrough. I think this looks to be a great game!
All i mean is that most start off as a political drama, no matter what. And yeah, its a pretty shitty idea to make the player character NOT the main character. And yeah, everyone agrees he isn't because it was a bad idea drummed up to try and have the protagonist be a "character the target audience could relate to." Vaan (not going to even mention penello) shouldn't have even been in that game, much less be the character you play through the game as.lordlee said:
They redid the game to try and give it a job system, but that version of the game is not widely available to everyone, especially since it wasn't distributed stateside. Even you haven't actually played it. It also was still the license board system, just with a face lift. They also only added it because they were getting so much flak for the system of FF12.
It had good ideas, but failed to deliver.
You are entitled to your opinion, but these are mine, so please don't suggest I'm under the influence of a substance for expressing them.
5 really was the hallmark of the FAMOUS Final fantasy Job system and tactics is filled with dangerous amounts of awesome (and boy was I glad to get my hands on a copy of the psp version. 2 new jobs, cel shaded cutscenes with voice overs, and balthier. Truly, Final Fantasy Tactics is still one of the best turn based strategy games.lordlee said:
*Shakes lordlee's hand* Truce.
In fact, this link sums this whole thing up quite nicely.
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=245
the middle part of the strip.
CIVILITY!!!
Not sure if that'll be any help, nor can I truly compare FF13 to other FF games much, having only played FF7 and FF8 without much enthusiasm, but still, in my own opinion FF13 is much better than 7 or 8 if you take it for its entertainment value.
I'm just going to list few things which stood out for me:
* FF13 is very linear, by that I mean, it can't be any more linear than it is.
* There is no world map at all, no cities and after certain points you can not go back.
* Without going in depth, combat system is changed, it feels more fluid, you only control 1 character directly others are controlled by AI based on your Optima setup. No more tedious action menus.
* It is very slow paced on difficulty curve, and it takes more than 2/3 of the game before you get full control over your party.
* If you play it right, you don't have to grind to get past certain encounters although skipping stuff you encounter on your way may cause some difficulty issues later on.
* There are no dialogues where you have to click through, everything is done with ingame scripted cinematics or CGI movies, none of which are very long or unskippable(you will have to replay few moments unless you are perfect and manage not to die while playing it).
* Every character have few roles they can fill, like healer, "tank", two types of damage dealers, buffer and hexer types. you can switch the role setups or so called Optimas mid battle.
* Leveling is pretty fluid as well, that is if you decide who will focus on which role and won't try to level every role available for every character in your party to the maximum level.
* All characters gain "experience" equally, even if you are not playing them or they are not available because of the plot.
* Levels are capped relatively to your progress through the game
* There are no random encounters, you can see every monster and if you "hate" some particular types you can easily skip them if you use special item (sneak smoke, not sure what it'll be named in US version)
* Like other FF titles this game got some depth to it and it won't be easy to 100% it. But this is completely optional and does not hinder your game at all, you wont miss pretty much anything by just playing through as it goes.
Story is much better than other FF games I played, probably because it is linear. My only issue with it is that for the first 2/3 of the game you get thrown between different party setups too damn often(in some cases it literally takes 3-4 fights before you get your party completely swapped), the game pretty much forces you to control every character before it lets you pick your favorite for the rest of it.
But no matter how good this game looks, and it does look gorgeous most of the time, or how much you liked the story, most likely after you finish it you will not want to play it again, this is when linearity is bad.
I'm just going to list few things which stood out for me:
* FF13 is very linear, by that I mean, it can't be any more linear than it is.
* There is no world map at all, no cities and after certain points you can not go back.
* Without going in depth, combat system is changed, it feels more fluid, you only control 1 character directly others are controlled by AI based on your Optima setup. No more tedious action menus.
* It is very slow paced on difficulty curve, and it takes more than 2/3 of the game before you get full control over your party.
* If you play it right, you don't have to grind to get past certain encounters although skipping stuff you encounter on your way may cause some difficulty issues later on.
* There are no dialogues where you have to click through, everything is done with ingame scripted cinematics or CGI movies, none of which are very long or unskippable(you will have to replay few moments unless you are perfect and manage not to die while playing it).
* Every character have few roles they can fill, like healer, "tank", two types of damage dealers, buffer and hexer types. you can switch the role setups or so called Optimas mid battle.
* Leveling is pretty fluid as well, that is if you decide who will focus on which role and won't try to level every role available for every character in your party to the maximum level.
* All characters gain "experience" equally, even if you are not playing them or they are not available because of the plot.
* Levels are capped relatively to your progress through the game
* There are no random encounters, you can see every monster and if you "hate" some particular types you can easily skip them if you use special item (sneak smoke, not sure what it'll be named in US version)
* Like other FF titles this game got some depth to it and it won't be easy to 100% it. But this is completely optional and does not hinder your game at all, you wont miss pretty much anything by just playing through as it goes.
Story is much better than other FF games I played, probably because it is linear. My only issue with it is that for the first 2/3 of the game you get thrown between different party setups too damn often(in some cases it literally takes 3-4 fights before you get your party completely swapped), the game pretty much forces you to control every character before it lets you pick your favorite for the rest of it.
But no matter how good this game looks, and it does look gorgeous most of the time, or how much you liked the story, most likely after you finish it you will not want to play it again, this is when linearity is bad.
But, but, but, FF6!lordlee said:
It has HADOUKEN!!!!~!!~!!~!!!!eleven!!!!~!
Although I've loved every 8 and 16 bit FF except 2 and I haven't played any of them past 6, so I guess I can't really be definitive.
Im going to stop you right there.Bad Cluster said:
Please lets not turn this thread into a "This game is better than that one!" thread. It almost did, but that was avoided. So please don't let this spark a flame war now, guy. I will not comment any more on your post.
Yes, FF6 is the best, kept in good company by FF5 and Tactics. Im blowing my posting limit and my standards by still doing this even though I said I wouldn't. G'bye thread. ^_^Ridonculous_Ninja said:
Must I feel guilty for having my own opinion or what? If that little of it what was said, after a warning at the beginning pretty much saying that you should not take that opinion seriously, can start a "flame war", then I'm truly sorry for the people involved in it.WillSimplyBe said: