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Frezzato

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So I just bought an old game through Steam and it took some tinkering to get it to work. If you must know, I had to find a way to keep the 'black screen' from appearing when launching Still Life.[footnote]I really love it so far. I just hope the main character tones down her "Like, ya know?" attitude.[/footnote] And this got me thinking about the things I've heard about GOG and how they apparently go through great pains to ensure that an older game will run on a modern PC.

Can anyone verify this? Are the rumors true? Did I imagine all of this?

To be fair, I've also read that some games purchased through GOG don't really work all that great either.

Yeah, so is there really less tinkering involved with GOG?
 

Silentpony_v1legacy

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From what I've experienced, yes. I have a few games off GOG namely the Myst series and Dungeon Keeper 2. And they've all worked, no problem.
Now GOG's library is pretty damn small, all things considered and there's a decent chance the old game you want isn't on there. But for the games they DO have, from my experience, yes its no muss no fuss.
 

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Silentpony said:
Thanks, man. I've had payment trouble with GOG in the past but I guess I could just use Pay Pal. I've had issues with Pay Pal as well but maybe I'll give them another try. That or I'll test my theory about GOG and a disposable prepaid card.
 

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Frezzato said:
So I just bought an old game through Steam and it took some tinkering to get it to work. If you must know, I had to find a way to keep the 'black screen' from appearing when launching Still Life.[footnote]I really love it so far. I just hope the main character tones down her "Like, ya know?" attitude.[/footnote] And this got me thinking about the things I've heard about GOG and how they apparently go through great pains to ensure that an older game will run on a modern PC.

Can anyone verify this? Are the rumors true? Did I imagine all of this?

To be fair, I've also read that some games purchased through GOG don't really work all that great either.

Yeah, so is there really less tinkering involved with GOG?
I had problems getting Still life to run. Apparently there is a well known issue with the "splash" folder. Just go into your Steam folder, find the steamapps/common/Stilllife folder and find the "splash" folder and rename it "Splash1" or something similar. It worked for me after that (win7 64 bit).


In terms of Gog they tend to better than steam at old games because it's their bread and butter. That said it's done for a price point so its not a 100% guarantee but the odds are better than buying the same game on steam.
 

DoPo

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Frezzato said:
Yeah, so is there really less tinkering involved with GOG?
I've never had to tinker with anything from GOG.

I've also never had to tinker with anything from Steam, though.

But, still, in theory GOG should be the safer bet. They do actually personally ensure the games work on at least the systems they support, which is, so far, Windows XP, Vista, 7, I believe. There is a somewhat limited, but growing, support for Linux (Ubuntu and Mint, specifically). GOG also have their 30 day money back guarantee - if a game doesn't work for you, you contact support, they'll try their best to assist you with getting the game working, if it still doesn't - you get your money back.

By comparison, Steam just offers offers the vanilla installation of a game, without changing anything - so if a game came out for Windows XP back in the day, it is not guaranteed to work for Windows 7 (unless the developer/publisher patches it)[footnote]Saying that, in practics a lot of them do work, at least to varying extent, but that's down to Microsoft trying hard to not lose the gamer demographic, thus including some support for the more popular titles in Windows 7.[/footnote]. So, in theory, in 20 years time, when we are all using Microsoft Windows Skynet, say, Fallout 4 may not work on it, if bought from Steam, but GOG would try to make it work. As they are being hunted down and killed by terminators[footnote]Yes, the GOG team is exactly THAT determined[footnote]that may have been a joke[footnote]The GOG team determination part, I mean - not the terminators[footnote]Their official name would be Xbox Singularity[footnote]OK, that's enough jokes about Microsoft[footnote]And quite enough footnotes[/footnote][/footnote][/footnote][/footnote][/footnote][/footnote].

Do note, though that GOG doesn't cover totally everything - I know of at least two games that do need some extra stuff installed. Well, not to work, but still:

- Arcanum Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura works really better with the Unofficial Patch for it [http://terra-arcanum.com/drog/dest/uap.html].
- there is a fix for the opening cinematic for Soul Reaver (which I'll try to find). I don't know if it has been fixed already but basically, for some reason, the GOG version had an early version of the cinematic itself, which meant the sound was different. Namely, some effects were missing. Not a huge issue - all the lines were there, but it was just odd for some fans, since the cinematic was so iconic. The "fix" was just the actual cinematic from the CD version.

Still, all in all, GOG should have the better track record for games working. Again, I've not had issues with either, but there you go.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot - there was also Dungeon Keeper 2 - I've got it, I've got like three differnt versions of it, and the GOG one is by far the most stable on Windows 7. It does actually occasionally crash and there is some somewhat odd occasional flickering of the screen but, all in all, works great. Saving often (and there is a quick save key), works around the crashes. I'm not entirely sure what GOG did to make it work (I've seen something that looked similar in Blood 2) but, still, it's way more than what the vanilla game or various other patches managed to do.
 

Frezzato

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albino boo said:
I had problems getting Still life to run. Apparently there is a well known issue with the "splash" folder. Just go into your Steam folder, find the steamapps/common/Stilllife folder and find the "splash" folder and rename it "Splash1" or something similar. It worked for me after that (win7 64 bit).


In terms of Gog then tend to better than steam at old games because its their bread and butter. That said it's done for a price point so its not a 100% guarantee but the odds are better than buying the same game on steam.
Thank you. I just got it to work about an hour ago and I don't even remember how. All I know is I can't launch it from the desktop shortcut. I simply have to go through Steam. I'm keeping your instructions though, just in case.

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DoPo said:
Three votes for GOG is good enough for me. You did get me thinking though. What if my copy of No One Lives Forever won't install in Windows 10??? *Sigh* All good things...
 

The Madman

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As others have mentioned GOG generally tries to ensure games work on modern computers before selling them, unlike Steam which simply sells whatever they're given but the devs/publishers and lets the seller sort out the details. I've got... hmm, 50 or 60ish games on GOG and haven't had any trouble getting any to run to date.

That doesn't mean they run perfectly mind you, I've still had trouble with some older games purchased from GOG and there are games even GOG hasn't gotten running fully on modern computers, but if you're ever unsure look to the right on the store page and along with the details like publisher and languages you'll find something that says which OS GOG has made sure it works on. The GOG forums are also a decent place to look for tech support as they tend to be more active than other community sites, especially for more obscure and largely forgotten games.
 

Steve the Pocket

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It definitely depends on the game. I've had issues with the first two RollerCoaster Tycoon games out of the box, and had to install some third-party mods to fix them. It also forces me to run the games in Administrator mode and disable Aero effects for some reason. Based on what I understood about GOG, I'd have expected them to at least adopt those mods and incorporate them into the games, but they haven't. There's also an official patch for System Shock 2 that's rolled out for Steam users but never got added to GOG's version. Why? Who even knows. But if you're buying something really old, like something that has to run inside an emulated DOS machine, GOG will generally have better configurations out of the box than Steam.
 

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I'll jump on the "GOG is great" bandwagon. I've downloaded multiple games from them, some as old as MS-DOS games, and I've never had a single issue with any of them.

Honestly, even if you did have an issue, GOG is so customer friendly that I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest if they just refunded your money if you absolutely couldn't get a game to run.
 

JohnnyDelRay

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Echoing the same here, I've played games from newer titles right back to King's Quest early titles, and none of them have given me issues. Also the old Wing Commanders, and a bunch of other adventure point and click titles, and some really old 3D shooters. Quite amazed how they managed to get the whole thing going that well in fact, I noticed they mostly use Dos-box wrapper, no issues with sound or anything, they even run at the correct speed.