R.I.P. Flareon

[Plurralbles]

Yeah I always wanted to us a Tauros but NOOoooo. Douchebag nintendo/gamefreak.

 

[Amyler]

I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.

Check out the UU tier. Venasaur is a beast among its bretheren. Swords Dance + Power Whip = Murderous bastard. Add in Sleep Powder and you're more or less garunteed the power to set up and sweep.

Myself, I love Flygon. It's not that he's bad ... but really guys? Another Ground/Dragon in the next generation with higher base stats in Everything and a better movepool? Bah.

 

[dancinginfernal]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that there is waaaaaay too much math in a game supposedly made for children.

It's easy for kids to learn, and complicated enough to keep grown men interested.

What does that say about it?

Kids should not bother entering real life tournaments.

And they don't. I meant a kid could pick it up and beat it with basic knowledge of "Water beats fire."

Once you get online however...

 

[subtlefuge]

Oh, Flareon.

Even if you did receive Flare Blitz, you'd still be middle of the pack NU.

At least 2 of the Eveelutions are viable comp team members, but I haven't checked that with the Gen V stuff yet.

 

[inuyasha dude]

aipom but its just so hard to find

 

[SilverUchiha]

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To be honest, from what I've read and seen, the Eeveeloutions seem rather underpowered. I'm not saying they suck. They all are pretty good and, if trained right, could make an exceptional team. But they really aren't all that great in the grand scheme of the Competitive-Pokeworld (of which I've only dabbled in and never actually played competitively).

That being said, the Pokemon I like that sucks would have to be... Hm... I have a tie!

Kingdra kinda sucks because while he has a decent movepoool and an excellent type combination, his Physical attack is awesome... but its the physical movepool that's rather lacking. Tons of special attacks to work with, but that's not entirely helpful. Everything else about him is pretty solid.

Second is Togekiss. I say this because Togekiss is fine but one of the best movesets insists on it having Tri-Attack for a STAB bonus while using Serene Grace to increase the chances of an additional effect. Unfortunately, the only way to get such a Togekiss is to play the shitty game "Pokemon XD" and transfer it into a GBA game and THEN transfer it into a Gen4 game. This pokemon sucks in the sense that one of the best movesets takes this much work to get. GRRR!

 

[open trap]

I remember when I was a kid and stats didnt matter, it was all about just having the coolest looking pokemon, and the highest leveled ones. What happened to that?

 

[SilverUchiha]

I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.

Check out the UU tier. Venasaur is a beast among its bretheren. Swords Dance + Power Whip = Murderous bastard. Add in Sleep Powder and you're more or less garunteed the power to set up and sweep.

Myself, I love Flygon. It's not that he's bad ... but really guys? Another Ground/Dragon in the next generation with higher base stats in Everything and a better movepool? Bah.

Actually, Gen 5 is adding a shit-ton of dragon-types. Check out the list on Bulbapedia. And a lot of them are Pure-Dragon. There is a Dragon-Ice, Dragon-Electric, Dragon-Fire, Dragon-Dark... It's pretty crazy. Last Gen was the highest number of legendaries. Now we get dragons. It's insane.

 

[pretentiousname01]

BTW, fav pokemon who sucks? Ditto.

actually dream world ditto is being listed as one of the top teirs in 5th gen.

Also glaceon sucks.

 

[LeafofStone]

Ok favourite pokemon that sucks has to be either Lanturn or Spheal. I would ALWAYS catch these two and use them in R/S. However just putting this out there, but does Lapras just really really suck? I mean i can put up with a Lanturn in my team and i cant stand having it in my party!
And funny thing is that my favourite eeveeloution was the one that no body ever got, Leafeon. I mean i mean at lvl 30 it had more defence than a lvl 45 Aggron without EV training.

 

[Miniges]

soooo many less-than-god-tier pokemon i love with all my heart.
-Zangoose
-Scyther
-all those shitty normals in the first area

 

[Amyler]

Actually, Gen 5 is adding a shit-ton of dragon-types. Check out the list on Bulbapedia. And a lot of them are Pure-Dragon. There is a Dragon-Ice, Dragon-Electric, Dragon-Fire, Dragon-Dark... It's pretty crazy. Last Gen was the highest number of legendaries. Now we get dragons. It's insane.

I've been following it closely, and I'm trepadatious but excited all the same. Not just dragons, either; have you seen how many freaking fightings we're getting? Plus, revamps of old mon's much? Blaziken. Speed Boost. Goodbye Infernape, goodbye Pokabu! You were never as cool as the kickboxing chicken! >=D

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Milotic still takes home my "my most loved pokemon" title of Generation 3 (?) to this day. However, I still could never find fucking Feebas. Did anyone actually manage to catch the SoB?!

..I really want to get back into this series, damnit! >_<

I need money. And a DS. NAOW!

 

[Supp]

Who uses flareon anyway?

BTW, fav pokemon who sucks? Ditto.

Actually, gen 5 Ditto is pretty awesome. Its ability automatically copies stats/moves so you can take out your opponent's strongest pokemon.

 

[Defense]

I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.

Check out the UU tier. Venasaur is a beast among its bretheren. Swords Dance + Power Whip = Murderous bastard. Add in Sleep Powder and you're more or less garunteed the power to set up and sweep.

Myself, I love Flygon. It's not that he's bad ... but really guys? Another Ground/Dragon in the next generation with higher base stats in Everything and a better movepool? Bah.

I didn't mean in UU, I meant in general. Yeah, it may be viable in UU, but no one in their right mind will use Venusaur in OU. It's outclassed by other pokemon.

I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.

Check out the UU tier. Venasaur is a beast among its bretheren. Swords Dance + Power Whip = Murderous bastard. Add in Sleep Powder and you're more or less garunteed the power to set up and sweep.

Myself, I love Flygon. It's not that he's bad ... but really guys? Another Ground/Dragon in the next generation with higher base stats in Everything and a better movepool? Bah.

Actually, Gen 5 is adding a shit-ton of dragon-types. Check out the list on Bulbapedia. And a lot of them are Pure-Dragon. There is a Dragon-Ice, Dragon-Electric, Dragon-Fire, Dragon-Dark... It's pretty crazy. Last Gen was the highest number of legendaries. Now we get dragons. It's insane.

Did someone say legendary?

But yeah, I agree, it's pretty crazy.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Dear Game Freak,

Can you stop making Flareon suck? Can you at least give it Earthquake or Flare Blitz? Or some kinda decent physical attack moves? Flareon has a massive attack stat, and absolute nothing to do with it. Flareon is actually better off using a special attack based moveset, and that's a damn shame. Super Power ain't enough. No STAB. Stat drop after use, and poor type coverage.

All the other Eeveelutions are totally viable in one way or another.

Espeon is Psychic death. Umbreon can tank and stall. Vaporeon can tank, sweep, stall, heal, and do it all. Jolteon is fast as fuck, and an exceptional Baton Passer. Leafeon has a great attack and defense stats, and a varied movepool to go with it. Glaceon is a pretty damn good Ice type, with good special attack.

It's Generation 5.

You have actually had 6 chances to fix Flareon merely by adding a few moves...Gen 2. Gen 3. Fire Red/Leaf Green. Gen 4. Heart Gold/Soul Silver. And now...Gen 5. And you still make Flareon suck.

R.I.P. Flareon

And F.U. Game Freak.

Worst Wishes,
Onyx
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STAB = Same Type Attack Bonus, meaning that if a pokemon is the same type as the move it used, it does 1.5x damage. 1.25x for dual type pokemon.

For some discussion:
What's your favorite pokemon to use that actually sucks?

Onyx...You know my PBR teams I've made. You know who I use and what tier they fall in.

 

[1000000]

Let's see. I don't know much about the pokemon competitive meta so bear with me. I mostly just pick pokemon based on looks and uniqueness so let me just throw some of my favorites out there under the assumption that they probably suck:

Farfetch'd
Parasect
Wobbuffet - although I hear tell wobbuffet is actually good and sometimes banned? is that true?

 

[Gxas]

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Spoiler: Too, too, too, too, appropriate.

 

[Pinstar]

Go for a Ninetails
Flamethrower
Hypnosis
Energy Ball
Nasty Plot

Can put them to sleep, set up with a Nasty Plot, and the Grass attack energy ball takes care of waters, grounds and rock types that would other wise counter it.

Ironically, the only type she's weak against is other fire types.

I do agree that flareon needs some help. Anyone know what moves it can learn in B/W?

 

[Zoose]

Porygon was always my favorite back in the day. I have heard about the new evolutions for it, but the original Porygon will always be the best.