Racist tram woman watches video evidence; denies everything
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And what would you have them wear to "respect our culture"?Volf99 said:
Do give me a good example of what the UK has to offer in terms of culture.
Broad sweeping terms with nothing behind them really offers nothing of value, what you just said was a complete smear on a community because of a dress, basically.
Impress me and you could win a £10 J.D sports voucher.
I don't know. I don't know what they'll do with her. But I'd like to see something done (what I don't know yet)Cephei Mordred said:
And it's hardly mere words; She verbally assaulted people with racial slurs. And she endangered her child, anyone on that tram could of attacked her and injured him (good job they know not to go to her low level) I don't see why the public should have to put up with something like that while on public transport.
And that's terrible.FamoFunk said:
But yelling mean, horrible, cruel things at people shouldn't really be illegal, shouldn't it?
As for endangerment, I'm not sure I'd really consider it in this case.
What? So people should be targeted and live there life having racial slurs hurled at them just because they were born Black, or White for example? Whoa. What a wonderful place that must be to live in. Good job you can get arrested for it.Cephei Mordred said:
Really? What if 5 people on that tram attacked her at the same time, you're telling me that child would of come to no harm?
Is that really such a bad thing though? Don't get me wrong, I understand the logic perfectly. Why go to a country if you don't want to be part of its culture? The burka is a religious thing though, if I understand it right, would you be just as opposed to seeing an Orthodox Jew from Israel walking down the street?Jazoni89 said:
strictly speaking the UK has no (written) constitution, and or freedom of speech originally came from common law and now we use the article 10 of the European convention (freedom of expression) which doesn't protect racist or threatening speechPlazmatic said:
I hope you recognise the Daily Mail has a right to say what they say without being branded racists.Hoplon said:
Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
That does NOT include merely suggesting that immigration policies might be an issue worth reconsidering, as Jazoni did there. Don't make a straw man argument including every racist excess and fallacy just because they dare to challenge the status quo on an issue that happens to include an aspect of race. But not hugely, Polish people are largely White Europeans, how is this a race issue?
As a society we MUST be able to approach the issue of immigration without accusations of racism.
You seem to mistake me for a man who said that people 'should' be subjected to racist abuse. Read again, carefully.FamoFunk said:
As for the child, you seem to be suggesting that those being subjected to slurs are of low enough character and impulse control to resort to violence over mere words.
Please enlighten me of what, "Mean, horrible, cruel" things you're referring to, because it's easy to put racial slurs under this.Cephei Mordred said:
A lot of people will resort to violence over 'mere'words, go look at the bullying thread for example if you really want one. People are not machines, they will react.
Your mistake is in thinking my saying 'shouldn't be illegal' is the same as 'saying mean, horrible, cruel things is right.'FamoFunk said:
See, my belief is that we shouldn't be locking people up over mere words when there are real criminals who need arresting.
And 'not machines' is a fine excuse for not engaging in perfect impulse control as all human beings are required to.
The sheer amount of racism, idiocy, bigotry and xenophobia in this thread makes me want to go curl up in a ball somewhere. 
Usually, I'd launh off into a rant, and quote half a dozen people, telling them that they're idiots, or that they're pathetic human beings, or whatever, but I'm on my phone, so I'll keep this short.
A popular conception about the woman in this video - look at the Youtube comments - is that she has the cojones to stand up and say what everyone has been thinking. To those people, I say get your head checked. This woman, this evil hag, is not in any way talking about immigration. She does not mention illegal immigrants, and she does not express discontent with the government. What this woman does is stereotype and generalize in the most utterly hateful way possible. She says that the 'blacks' are ruining the country. She tells them to go back to 'n- nig - niggafrica'. When confronted with a black woman who's been British all her life, she denies the woman's right to be a citizen - to her face. Look closely class, because what we have here is nit a hero. What we have is an utterly fucking worthless human being, a prick whose presence makes us all the poorer. Unfortunately, she is also symptomatic of the diseased culture of intolerance and bigotry still so depressingly prevalent in the modern day.
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Shouldn't be illegal though. Kick her off the train, sure, or maybe give her a warning for disturbing the peace, but to actually take her to court? Damn.
Usually, I'd launh off into a rant, and quote half a dozen people, telling them that they're idiots, or that they're pathetic human beings, or whatever, but I'm on my phone, so I'll keep this short.
A popular conception about the woman in this video - look at the Youtube comments - is that she has the cojones to stand up and say what everyone has been thinking. To those people, I say get your head checked. This woman, this evil hag, is not in any way talking about immigration. She does not mention illegal immigrants, and she does not express discontent with the government. What this woman does is stereotype and generalize in the most utterly hateful way possible. She says that the 'blacks' are ruining the country. She tells them to go back to 'n- nig - niggafrica'. When confronted with a black woman who's been British all her life, she denies the woman's right to be a citizen - to her face. Look closely class, because what we have here is nit a hero. What we have is an utterly fucking worthless human being, a prick whose presence makes us all the poorer. Unfortunately, she is also symptomatic of the diseased culture of intolerance and bigotry still so depressingly prevalent in the modern day.
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Shouldn't be illegal though. Kick her off the train, sure, or maybe give her a warning for disturbing the peace, but to actually take her to court? Damn.
Weird, cause I know I didn't quote you. Hell, the post it links to doesn't even have that text in it. All I did was delete what I didn't need to quote, so I don't really know how it ended up linking to your post. It was all correct when I posted, so I don't have an explanation. I've gone ahead and fixed it, even though the guy I directed the question at won't get a notification now.Daystar Clarion said:
The fact that they are treated as some horrible blight because the are not from this particular part of Europe is racism, I'm sure you and your ilk would like to pretend it's some higher debate about "lax" immigration laws, but it's not.Treblaine said:
The only way people like wouldn't think it was lax is if everyone not of British birth was ankle tagged at all times if they where allowed in at all.
I find it particularly distasteful in a country that should have such very close ties with the polish, the town I grew up in is host to a massive polish war graves cemetery, most of them where airmen who died defending Britain even after they're own nation had been over run.
You and yours are disgusting bunch of closet racist hiding behind another issue pretending that's all it's about.