Wow he was annoying as hell. While I agree with SOME of what he says, I can't watch him without wanting to stab someone.
Can't roleplay in DA 2. The game punishes you with its friendship/rivalry system the same way ME2 punishes you with it's paragon/renegade system. You can't make character decisions.Feylynn said:Three easy steps to enjoying Dragon Age 2.
-Play on Nightmare.
No other difficulty is cannon, nor is it a game, normal is the difficulty equivalent of getting to sleep within a time restriction of 48 hours.
-Try to roleplay not metagame.
You need to work to color these games, the developer cannot make them perfect, or even really good compared to a novel when they need to account for a billion whiny fans and 47 flavours of player character. They will always be bad it is up to you to think out side of the box and color inside the lines.
-Remember that no matter how much you glorify Origins it was very very VERY flawed, that didn't stop us from loving it.
Bad, slow, terribly balanced combat that closer resembled MapleStory's potion chugging contest than a game, or even tactics.
Glitches and graphics and inconsistencies that make grown men cry. Still we loved it, get over DA2's flaws if you want, or don't, It's not changing my experience with the game.
That said, he had many good points. Be vocal, less of an idiot maybe, but vocal.
BioWare needs to be told where they went wrong here, hopefully they listen and fix it.
Actually he did. He has a review of DA:O and calls it the best RPG he's played this decade. True he could have lied but according to that logic everyone on the entire internet could be lying. Yahtzee's favorite game could be Halo and Moviebob could just be watching the previews and reading other reviews to do his reviews. I take things at face value over the internet due to not being constantly paranoid that I'm being lying to. Although I will admit that I've been proven wrong many times over....sorry for the speech.(Just going to get on topic now so no need to read if you don't feel like it)Neosage said:This guy obviously didn't play Dragon Age: Origins.
Wow, thats a lot of venom there. No one cares if you like it either. Its not perfect and no one is saying it is. But if this is your definition of a bad game then boy you've seen nothing. I would totally agree that this is the worst Bioware game I have played, no doubt. That is like saying its the crappiest Da Vinci painting. I hate it when people assume their opinion is the right one and everyone else is just in denial or something. Some people liked it, good for them, trying to convince them otherwise is both stupid and mean spirited.jonyboy13 said:I wuv him<3
The review concludes in "If Dragon Age 2 isn't a bad game then wtf is?"
It was one of the worst games I have ever played and PLEASE, people who defend it, put your bs aside because no one cares if you like it or not. The fact is, it's a shitty game that fails at everything it tries to accomplish. You can like it, you can even love it and worship it as a God but it doesn't change the fact that it is a BAD GAME.
I haven't played the game so I might be off the mark, but I'm a firm believer that there's a huge difference between "bad" and "poorly made". From what I've heard, from fans and non-fans alike, Dragon Age II falls into the latter category.pixiejedi said:Wow, thats a lot of venom there. No one cares if you like it either. Its not perfect and no one is saying it is. But if this is your definition of a bad game then boy you've seen nothing.
Friendship renegade doesn't punish you. Sometimes, people just completely disagree with your answers, and the times you disagree are the times they disagree. In DA2 rather then have them leave in a huff they stick with you like friends would, but they are just a little bitter that you don't find some of their plights nearly as important as they do.Trolldor said:Can't roleplay in DA 2. The game punishes you with its friendship/rivalry system the same way ME2 punishes you with it's paragon/renegade system. You can't make character decisions.Feylynn said:Three easy steps to enjoying Dragon Age 2.
-Play on Nightmare.
No other difficulty is cannon, nor is it a game, normal is the difficulty equivalent of getting to sleep within a time restriction of 48 hours.
-Try to roleplay not metagame.
You need to work to color these games, the developer cannot make them perfect, or even really good compared to a novel when they need to account for a billion whiny fans and 47 flavours of player character. They will always be bad it is up to you to think out side of the box and color inside the lines.
-Remember that no matter how much you glorify Origins it was very very VERY flawed, that didn't stop us from loving it.
Bad, slow, terribly balanced combat that closer resembled MapleStory's potion chugging contest than a game, or even tactics.
Glitches and graphics and inconsistencies that make grown men cry. Still we loved it, get over DA2's flaws if you want, or don't, It's not changing my experience with the game.
That said, he had many good points. Be vocal, less of an idiot maybe, but vocal.
BioWare needs to be told where they went wrong here, hopefully they listen and fix it.
Also, Combat in Origins was far superior. Tactics, placement, abilities, they all mattered on all difficulties. Easier difficulties just meant you could move more slowly, issue orders more slowly. DA 2 is a button masher until nightmare, but that leaves casual gamers - and those less skilled - with just a button masher.
The Friendship/Rival system punishes you because you will lose characters from your party if you weren't "consistent" which puts you at a severe disadvantage when you get to the final battle.Feylynn said:Friendship renegade doesn't punish you. Sometimes, people just completely disagree with your answers, and the times you disagree are the times they disagree. In DA2 rather then have them leave in a huff they stick with you like friends would, but they are just a little bitter that you don't find some of their plights nearly as important as they do.Trolldor said:Can't roleplay in DA 2. The game punishes you with its friendship/rivalry system the same way ME2 punishes you with it's paragon/renegade system. You can't make character decisions.Feylynn said:Three easy steps to enjoying Dragon Age 2.
-Play on Nightmare.
No other difficulty is cannon, nor is it a game, normal is the difficulty equivalent of getting to sleep within a time restriction of 48 hours.
-Try to roleplay not metagame.
You need to work to color these games, the developer cannot make them perfect, or even really good compared to a novel when they need to account for a billion whiny fans and 47 flavours of player character. They will always be bad it is up to you to think out side of the box and color inside the lines.
-Remember that no matter how much you glorify Origins it was very very VERY flawed, that didn't stop us from loving it.
Bad, slow, terribly balanced combat that closer resembled MapleStory's potion chugging contest than a game, or even tactics.
Glitches and graphics and inconsistencies that make grown men cry. Still we loved it, get over DA2's flaws if you want, or don't, It's not changing my experience with the game.
That said, he had many good points. Be vocal, less of an idiot maybe, but vocal.
BioWare needs to be told where they went wrong here, hopefully they listen and fix it.
Also, Combat in Origins was far superior. Tactics, placement, abilities, they all mattered on all difficulties. Easier difficulties just meant you could move more slowly, issue orders more slowly. DA 2 is a button masher until nightmare, but that leaves casual gamers - and those less skilled - with just a button masher.
It is far from perfect, it's almost poor, but if you are walking around avoiding stepping on toes you are meta gaming.
Mass Effect however does punish you because your charisma is tied directly to being locked in one persona. That is wrong, DA2 didn't do it.
The only glaring issue with F/R is that neutral isn't addressed properly, they should move on from this system with the next iteration of the game in my opinion, but it isn't as bad as people make it out to be here.
The issue people 'should' really have with conversation is lack of flavour. No religious answers, no shy, outgoing, crazy, whatever. No nice refusals for relationships, really no 'nice' caring dialog for flirting either. They needed Flirting/Loving Gentle/***** depicted by say a Full Black/Red Heart, then broken Red/Black heart respectively.
They put to much a restriction on Hawke by doing this and didn't make it any less mandatory to roleplay and rewrite the story for yourself.
Fair enough, DA1's lower difficulties still offered a challenge and could be considered gameplay. But it also had some of the most atrocious game balance ever concieved.
Roll Blood Mage Arcane Warrior=Solo Nightmare without even getting beaten by the 'unwinnable' fight thus avoiding the prison level entirely.
In my pinion Nightmare in DA2 was significantly better, so I'm happy with it, I personally can't give any points to origin there save the ability to spec any party member any way. But that is what console commands are for.
Let me give you the other side of the arguement:Calibretto said:snip
Trolldor said:The Friendship/Rival system punishes you because you will lose characters from your party if you weren't "consistent" which puts you at a severe disadvantage when you get to the final battle.
But... he didn't really make any points. iIt was just ten minutes of him screaming "RAWR I HATE DRAGON AGE 2!"Can we just have a legitimate discussion on some of the points he made?
*gasp* You mean if you flip-flop around like an indecisive douche with emotional problems then people won't respect you enough to risk their lives for you? My word, how terrible!The Friendship/Rival system punishes you because you will lose characters from your party if you weren't "consistent" which puts you at a severe disadvantage when you get to the final battle.