'Real' Dubstep

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asacatman

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I put the real in quotation marks because it's obviously a subjective thing, although I think my definition of dubstep makes the most sense. This thread was born out of another one discussing the genre, which was full of misconceptions.

Dubstep grew out of a scene in south london combining elements of uk garage, 2-step and dub. It's charactaristics are sub bass (not that skillrex grimy sound, sub bass, the kind you need a sub woofer to hear properly), a synchopated 2 step rythmn (not the deadmaus/skillrex four to the floor dance beat.) and dissonant melody (not, again, the melodic techno sounds of skillrex ect.)

I think the sound, spearheaded by skillrex, which is called 'brostep' by those who want to differentiate, is not really what the genre was originally about, and it's an insult to the pioneers of the sound to associate them with their commercial offspring.

Now some examples:
Digital mystickz, one of the originators of the genre. Notice there's not a noticable drop or wob wob bass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mOIXdC4rgA

Here's one by benga. The bass sounds closer to brostep, but there's no hint of a melody or a drop, it's all very dissonant. (I personally don't like this style.):http://www.youtube.com/watchv=yNoj2Y0iHxw&feature=related

I have to throw in some burial. It doesn't have all the things I mention that should be in dubstep, but this music is so good, and it's nothing like brostep, so it's a good indicator of where the south london sound leads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ijVnXIWBk

I have nothing against brostep (other than thinking it sounds kind of stupid :p) and I know the names of things shouldn't matter, but it's just annoying seeing a british thing being taken over by an inferior (ok, it's only inferior in my opinion.) american counterpart, and no one seeing the two things as different.
 

W8NKA

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To call dubstep a real genre is insulting to music. Just my opion thats all.

Though i also hate it when the americans ruin stuff. eg torchwood.
 

Dr Pussymagnet

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It isn't the kind of music I'd ever listen to on my iPod, but if I'm at a club when some dubstep comes on, I'm gonna fucking get down.
 

weker

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Really there is such a thing as real "Dubstep", Personally it's only a few inches from just being noise, and is barely music half the time.
 

TerribleAssassin

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Proper dubstep is the stuff you could only really get on 7" vinyls between 2000-2009, it annoys me when I see so many little dipshits comment on a Jamie xx track (ok, it's not old-school, but it's basically an updated version) saying it's not dubstep because it doesn't have about 90 layered modern talking synths.
 
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Heheh, I love that comic.

OT: I actually like dubstep when it's 'done properly', i.e., not wubwubwubwub for three minutes.
 

anthony87

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W8NKA said:
To call dubstep a real genre is insulting to music. Just my opion thats all.

Though i also hate it when the americans ruin stuff. eg torchwood.
....There's an American Torchwood? Surely it can't be as bad as American Shameless or American Skins can it?
 

TerribleAssassin

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TomLikesGuitar said:
TerribleAssassin said:
Proper dubstep is the stuff you could only really get on 7" vinyls between 2000-2009,
That's the most hipster thing I've ever read in my life. Lol.
If you have a problem, please address it properly and not be an immature arse who cannot deal with their problems.

Good day sir.
 

razer17

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Daystar Clarion said:
Heheh, I love that comic.

OT: I actually like dubstep when it's 'done properly', i.e., not wubwubwubwub for three minutes.
I love that comic! I used to have it as my wallpaper because someone sent me it saying that it reminded him of me.


OT: I like all sorts of dubstep. I suppose their are new "subgenres" like brostep or whatever you want to call it, but I don't care. I'm happy to differentiate between house, dubstep, rock or whatever, but when you start getting down into the really fine details your just being picky.

Also, to all the people saying dubstep is just noise, or not real music, cut it out. You don't like it, fine, not everyone will, but don't completely dismiss it because of your own tastes. I wouldn't go into a death metal thread and start shouting about how it sucks and is just noise. If that's what you want to listen to fine.
 

JesterRaiin

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Sooooooooooo...
Yet another thread regarding genre that's supposedly non existent. :)

Remember guys : if it's on YT - it's not hipster/niche/elitistic enough. ;)

http://soundcloud.com/quacky-1/quacky-creation
http://soundcloud.com/sokos-1/sokos-si-a-w-basie-ty-kutasie
http://soundcloud.com/savinglivez/cpt-carnage-jeba-acta-kurwa
 

Xaio30

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People are just pulling something out of their asses these days and calls it a new genre.
I'm tired of it.
 

ChaoticKraus

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Seriously... Bro-step? Thats probably the douchiest term i ever heard in my entire life. Just because a genre you liked evolved and became popular doesn't mean you have to go elitist and scream about how it isn't real deal.
 

Smooth Operator

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This is just hilarious, do kids now rename techno on a daily basis?
Then again I probably went through 3-5 renames of the same electro pounding when I was going to clubs.
 

tacotrainwreck

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Think of 'bro-step' as hair metal or nu-metal. Give it some time, let the pop culture stuff wash over it for a bit, and when it's forgotten by the mainstream, it will probably get cool again.
 

Antag

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I'm not a huge dubstep fan, but I still get annoyed by the 'bro-step' (yes, it's a shitty name, but at least most people get what is meant by that). I think this quote gives a good idea why a lot of dubstep fans hate it:

That's why brostep is so repulsive to proper dubstep fans. Not only is it very musically different and deserves distinction because of that, but the culture behind it is also very different. Real dubstep is "meditate on bassweight", while brostep is "yeah d00d, this shit i ripped off youtube is so filthy coming from my skullcandy headphones WUB WUB".
It is completely different music. And that's fine, but suddenly the music that you listen to is associated with something else. Even that wouldn't work me up too much, but if you're at a good dubstep party and enjoying the music to suddenly have some annoying teenagers yell at the DJ that he should play 'real' (with which they mean Skrillex crap) dubstep it can get on your nerve. Things like that are can easily seen as a danger to the scene.

Btw, the popularity isn't really a problem for dubstep fans. Have you hear any of them rage against James Blake?

Btw, one of my favorite tracks. Just listen to this and you'll understand why 'brostep' is a completely different genre.

 

AnarchistFish

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A lot of what people call dubstep isn't even dubstep anyway, a lot is electro house or drum and bass. Either way, you really need to separate the two "types" of the genre though because they sound nothing alike and wubwubwubstep has really tainted 'earlier' dubstep's name.

Btw I was listening to Burial as I saw this thread on the main page, lol.

Oh and I can't stand James Blake.


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