Really Sweat Surgery?!?

[Demagogue]

So I'm not sure how many have heard of this but on my way into the office today I saw an ad for excessive sweat surgery... (Their site: http://sweatsolutions.ca/ I haven't gone because screw them, but I guess for more info)

Like how petty are we getting as a species that sweating, something that we all do as a function to cool ourselves off has become something people are judging appearances based off of?

I'm just floored.... and so I wanted to ask what other people thoughts on it are. Additionally, does your region have any crazy cosmetic surgeries that you know of.

edit: to fix the link. GG Dema with the comma. >.<

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

So I'm not sure how many have heard of this but on my way into the office today I saw an ad for excessive sweat surgery... (Their site: http://sweatsolutions.ca/, I haven't gone because screw them, but I guess for more info)

Like how petty are we getting as a species that sweating, something that we all do as a function to cool ourselves off has become something people are judging appearances based off of?

I'm just floored.... and so I wanted to ask what other people thoughts on it are. Additionally, does your region have any crazy cosmetic surgeries that you know of.

Actually this is not really what one would consider " petty", those with severe perspiration issues can have it affect their employment, opportunity for advancement and relationships severely. Considering this is an issue that can affect their career and relationships, this would be less of what I would consider a " cosmetic surgery", as usually those seeking these surgeries are not doing so for cosmetic reasons, but rather an issue of odor, hygiene and the discomfort of being excessively wet covered in sweat. Some of the people with this issue are forced to change their clothes every few minutes or they are soaking wet. Being excessively sweaty can cause issues increasing their risk of staph infections as well as repugnant odors that affect not only those in your work environment, but also your recreational life as well.

 

[Demagogue]

Fair enough regarding those that do have a physical condition that causes them to sweat more than others. I mean I know I generally sweat more myself, while doing nothing if the room I'm in is more than 23-24°C generally it is just on my head which is why I tend to keep short hair to help dissipate that quicker (mind you longer hair hides it better and soaks up more of it too)

However those with a medical condition for it have had it for countless years, and most likely have had alternate solutions in place if it was a major issue as a result of working with their doctors. I call this cosmetic surgery, because I recognize the place that does it. It is a plastic surgery shop in the next town over that does everything from breast implants/reduction, rhinoplasty, de-aging to the lap-band gastric thing that was really big a few years back, laser hair removal, and now apparently sweat gland surgery.

I'm not saying that there isn't a reason for any of those types of services to be available for those with medical conditions. Eg a trans person getting implants during their transitioning. (although I'm not sure if they just develop them naturally with hormone replacement) and burn victims needing skin graphs or people with nasal issues needing rhinoplasty. These surgeries are needed to aid a percentage of the population that require them for medical reasons. However those people generally are getting referred to a specialist in those fields by a doctor.

This was an ad on the back of the bus... it was targeted at the generally population that may not like pit stains on their shirts from time to time in the summer because it is +40°C out and it is hot.

 

[Jack Action]

This was an ad on the back of the bus... it was targeted at the generally population that may not like pit stains on their shirts from time to time in the summer because it is +40°C out and it is hot.

Or because depending on how failed your genes are, deodorant won't help at all with preventing smell from excessive sweating.

I mean yeah, sure, you could say it's not a big deal, but we hairless apes are much more sensitive about smelling bad than we are about being ugly.

 

[Demagogue]

Or because depending on how failed your genes are, deodorant won't help at all with preventing smell from excessive sweating.

I mean yeah, sure, you could say it's not a big deal, but we hairless apes are much more sensitive about smelling bad than we are about being ugly.

Umm... go back and read the REST of that post you quoted... I already covered off legitimate medical reasons for it, and how those people would be find services/specialists through their doctor / a specialist, not off an ad on the back of a bus.

 

[Jack Action]

Umm... go back and read the REST of that post you quoted... I already covered off legitimate medical reasons for it, and how those people would be find services/specialists through their doctor / a specialist, not off an ad on the back of a bus.

I'm not sure people who have unpleasant body odor would actually go to a doctor for it, hence the ignoring that part part. Granted, my perspective's probably skewed, but generally from what I know people don't go to doctors unless it's something generally accepted to pose a severe health risk.

If what lil'd says is true and excessive sweating increases staph infection risk, I don't think people would know that and go talk to a doctor about what they can do to fix it, never mind fixing the smell.

 

[Demagogue]

Maybe I just grew up with a different mentality and that's why this is so out there for me. I mean I have a family doctor, and I've gone there for some pretty weird things in the past, but that is why I have a family doctor. It isn't something that you'd go to the hospital for, and I personally don't like walk-in-clinics because then you have medical records all over the place, but they would do if you can't find a family doctor at least.

However, my doctor is why I know I have sleep apnea, and have the means to correct and control it. It is how I got my jaw fixed so that it would stop clicking and driving my mother crazy when I was in high school. If I thought I was sweating or smelling to the point that was effecting my job, life, etc. I'd be talking to him about it and seeing what could be done / if there was a problem.

I mean I've had the conversation with an employer about odor before, it was embarrassing as hell, but it wasn't malicious either. Additionally, because the guy who was my boss was a bigger guy as well he was able to give me a few tips as well, and it was simply a change of habit. I am an 'active' sleeper in that I move around along when I sleep. I used to shower at night before bed to essentially wash away the day's everything. A simple shift to showering in the morning was all I needed.

And sure maybe I have a mild case of hyperhidrosis (which is apparently what makes you sweat a lot according to the site) and sure there are people who probably have much worse cases, but again those people I doubt would be looking for solutions on the back of a bus. I broke down and checked their site... essentially if you answer yes to three of the following questions, they say you may have hyperhidrosis. Yes to 3 of 7 questions, that are crazy broad, yeah that's pretty likely.

Does sweating have an impact on your lifestyle?
Does embarrassment or nervousness cause you to sweat?
Do you worry that others may notice your sweat marks?
Do you carry deodorant with you on daily basis?
Do you avoid light coloured clothing because you tend to have sweat marks?
Do you avoid physical contact with people because of your sweating?
Are you only able to wear certain materials to avoid sweat marks?
Does your sweating impact your summer wardrobe choices?

 

[Scarim Coral]

Err sweating can be a problem for some people as shown in this video so I don't really see it being a problem for those who want to take that surgery. Heck at least is a reasonable reason to get it as oppse to stuff like botox.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Heck at least is a reasonable reason to get it as oppse to stuff like botox.

Actually, botox is sometimes the solution to excessive sweating.

Wait, you're right about that.... I mean the placement of the botox since I don't see the point on using botox on the forehead to get rid of wrinkles since it is natural have wrinkles.

 

[Braedan]

What is the problem? That a for profit company is advertising in public? You've already admitted that excessive sweating is a health and lifestyle problem, what is wrong with getting that fixed? Some people just don't know how to deal with the problem. And even if they do why are you trying to tell them how they can solve it?

 

[DoPo]

Yes to 3 of 7 questions, that are crazy broad, yeah that's pretty likely.

Wait, "crazy broad"? I don't think they are "crazy broad"? The first one is literally "are you sweating so much it changes your life?". How is that broad - it's a yes or no question - you'd know if it's a yes, if you don't know - it's most likely not. The others are pretty much just the first one but targeted more specifically, like, are you literally having to change your wardrobe because of your sweating (which is one type of "impact on your lifestyle").

 

[DEAD34345]

If someone sweats to a dangerous, or even just an annoying degree it seems reasonable enough to me. A lot more reasonable than, say, injecting poison directly into your face to remove wrinkles (and the capability to make any facial expression whatsoever).

 

[f1r2a3n4k5]

If someone sweats to a dangerous, or even just an annoying degree it seems reasonable enough to me. A lot more reasonable than, say, injecting poison directly into your face to remove wrinkles (and the capability to make any facial expression whatsoever).

Haha, it's interesting that you mention that because this is the exact same thing.

Botulinum toxin. It blocks the release of acetylcholine. Same mechanism of action. They just inject it into your armpit instead.

And poison is all in the dosage. There's therapeutic and toxic levels for virtually every substance known to man.

But I agree with the sentiment just the same, the over-medicalization of non-medical conditions is a slippery slope to go down.

 

[chadachada123]

I seriously wish that my insurance covered this kind of treatment. Just sitting around, even when I use the strongest prescription-strength antiperspirant, my armpits are completely soaked all day. I could walk outside in the snow shirtless, and I'd still be sweating. God forbid I walk around on a hot summer day, then my head starts leaking everywhere, too.

I spent all of high school wearing a hoodie constantly, but I sweat enough that it bleeds through THAT, so then I switched to wearing purely black or white clothing, which usually does a good job of masking it.

It's embarrassing. Smell is never the problem, but comfort and self-esteem are hugely affected.

 

[Malpraxis]

I don't find it petty at all. I'm a doctor, and sweat quite a lot on the forehead.
Imagine you go to the doctor and you find him sweating while he gives you your treatment, or even worse, at an ICU after an accident. You'd either think that something is seriously wrong, or that he's insecure. Both bad options when your health/life is on the line. Like it or not, people judge others by their personal image. Lets not even get into function, just picture surgeons with sweaty hands and latex gloves.

The people talking about "omg poison" should really google water poisoning. It's all in the dose, folks.

 

[Lilani]

I'm sure there are people who attempt to do this for cosmetic reasons, however as others have stated there are people who genuinely sweat more than what is physically necessary, and it is a major bother. Many cosmetic surgeries actually have health benefits:

- Nose surgeries can alleviate breathing and sinus problems, caused either by small or misshapen nasal passages or injury
- Underbites can cause major jaw and tooth problems, so jaw realignment surgery often greatly helps not only these people's smiles but their overall health as well
- Many women seek breast reduction surgeries because the strain of large breasts can cause back pain
- Bunions or other major foot abnormalities can greatly affect a person's ability to walk or stand for long periods of time, and can greatly limit what types of shoes they can wear (my mom has actually gotten bunions on both of her feet removed, due to how few shoes she could wear and how much they bothered her if she was on her feet all day)
- Sometimes when obese people lose a great amount of weight (or when a woman recovers from a large pregnant belly) there is a lot of leftover saggy skin, which is not only gross but uncomfortable and limiting to mobility. So often they will get surgeries to have this extra skin removed.

With how much we scorn people for going "too far" with plastic surgery, it's easy to forget there are many people whose lives are greatly improved by such surgeries in completely non-cosmetic ways. It's like the whole gluten-free craze--there are genuinely people with celiac disease who have bad reactions to gluten, and they existed long before this craze. So even though many servers at restaurants have had to deal with silly people who order gluten-free meals and wash it all down with a stout beer, it's still not worth the risk. Recently, a boy in the US died from an allergic reaction to dairy due to food he was served at a restaurant. His family had asked for a gluten-free dish and asked if it was dairy and they were told it didn't, and his wind pipe closed up and he died (he had forgotten his epi-pen when they had gone out).

So, yeah. Be nice to people. Try not to assume the worst. That's just not very cool.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Err sweating can be a problem for some people as show in this video so I don't really see it being a problem for those who want to take that surgery. Heck at least is a reasonable reason to get it as oppse to stuff like botox.

Was watching this the other day, and it made me cry. Nothing else, just this.

Believe it or not, cosmetic surgery isn't the devil in the form of pseudo-medicine. Many people have procedures based on it or vice versa in order to alleviate actual medical problems.