Reboot!

[VoidWanderer]

Given the amount of video games and TV Shows getting hit by the 'F5' button, I have been looking at some of the older shows I love watching and I wonder...

I have been a huge fan of Babylon 5, Vengeance Unlimited and The Pretender shows and would love to see them remade today.

Do you guys have any TV shows you would like to see rebooted?

 

[Thaluikhain]

Well...if the reboot doesn't change everything that made it good in the first place. That's usually a big if.

 

[Cabisco]

I like the idea of this thread, normally we say 'OH MY GOD HOW COULD THEY ATTEMPT TO REBOOT SOMETHING I LIKED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO'. A thread embracing the idea is a welcome change

Though damn it now I can't think of anything I'd want to see rebooted, apart from Zulu. It's a movie I love and damn it I want to see a modern version with a £200million+ budget... and Michael Caine in the same role.

 

[Scarim Coral]

They did reboot Thundercats awhile back, it was not half bad. I wouldn't mind if they brought back G.I. Joe, not the new movies but another animated series.

They did, it's called GI Joe: Renegade (pretty much GI Joe meet The A Team) or do you mean another series after that?

As for me I guess it would be interesting if they did reboot the rest of the 80's cartoons like Jayce, MASK and the Wheel Warrior, Visionaries and The Centerions.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Though damn it now I can't think of anything I'd want to see rebooted, apart from Zulu. It's a movie I love and damn it I want to see a modern version with a £200million+ budget... and Michael Caine in the same role.

IMHO, the only really good thing about that movie was the singing, and that couldn't really be improved.

A more historically accurate version would be nice, though, they really took liberties with it.

 

[shrekfan246]

Reboot was a pretty interesting show. The villains were creepy as hell, though I don't really remember much about the actual plot or anything...

Oh, that's not what we're talking about?

I don't know, the only nostalgia I really have for shows I grew up with is Digimon and Pokemon, and considering I fell out of interest with both of them after their second or third seasons, I don't feel like a reboot would be particularly interesting -- Especially considering that objectively speaking, the writing and pacing and everything are probably much better in the later episodes than the earlier ones that I prefer.

I didn't have cable or anything.

The few other shows, like Rugrats or all those "One Saturday Morning" shows, I can't help but feel something might get lost in the translation of bringing it up to "today's standard". Or the various Star Trek series', which are still (mostly) enjoyable to watch even today. But I don't watch much television to begin with, so I'm likely not the best person to ask.

EDIT: Thinking about it, I don't feel like they should do any particular reboot (unless it's of that godawful Enterprise BS), but I'd like to see more new Star Trek with the same themes and designs as TOS, TNG, or DS9.

 

[Cabisco]

Though damn it now I can't think of anything I'd want to see rebooted, apart from Zulu. It's a movie I love and damn it I want to see a modern version with a £200million+ budget... and Michael Caine in the same role.

IMHO, the only really good thing about that movie was the singing, and that couldn't really be improved.

A more historically accurate version would be nice, though, they really took liberties with it.

I believe a less historically accurate version would be better, say instead of 200 British troops have only Michael Caine and have him armed with only a knife.

But yes the singing should remain intact, even though editing it to make it look like everything was sung by Michael Caine alone might be hard.

 

[YuberNeclord]

Ok, rant time, if you don't want to hear it feel free to move on to the rest of the post.

Spoiler: rant about the term reboot

So we're all just comfortable using the term reboot now? It is something that grates the hell out of me for a couple of reasons.

One, because it is clearly a cheap marketing ploy that was thought up because of the negative connotations associated with the word remake. "Oh nonono, it's not a remake, it's a reboot! It's two completely different things. Now give me your money."
I can just picture the meeting where all the movie executives came up with that one and then proceeded to high five each other with their dicks over how ingenious they are.

The second reason I can't stand the term is because of the implication of the word itself.

"A term that comes from computer usage. To reboot a computer is to start it up again after a computer crash. Hence, 'reboot' has the connotation of starting a process over again."(dictionary.com)

"In serial fiction, to reboot means to discard all established history and continuity in an established series in order to recreate a character, timeline, and/or back-story from the beginning."(wikipedia.org)

So basically what the term is saying is that this 'rebooted' film/tv show/other is so superior to the other versions of it that existed that it's existence negates all of them from canon and it is now the one true canon. That just sounds really arrogant to me. And really disrespectful to what you are 'rebooting'.

The third reason that I hate reboots is that they seem to by default bound to suck(not always, but I think that they mostly do).

I find that the best remakes are those that take the core concept in a new direction and make something that stands apart from the original(such as how John Carpenters The Thing is a much different film to The Thing From Another World, mostly because it explores elements of the original story Who Goes There? that The Thing From Another World overlooked) instead of just being a fan service to the original. Reboots are designed to reintroduce the franchise to a new generation so they are just a retelling of the same story, sometimes throwing in one or two new elements, and almost always having recreations of 'iconic' scenes from the originals. Which I find to be counterproductive to the immersive experience of film because you are naturally comparing those scenes to the original versions, which reminds you that you are watching a movie and therefore kills suspension of disbelief.

To answer your question, I've recently been re-watching Tekkaman Blade(also know as Tecknoman), a show I haven't seen since I was about 12. Anyway I still find it to be really good, but it's clearly got issues. The animation isn't great in places(and in other place is rather terrible), the voice acting is quite atrocious at times(well all of the time but you sort of get used to it), it has some plot holes that need to be ironed out and some character stuff that needs to be fixed or expanded on(mostly motivation stuff). So yeah I think that would be a show that would be well served by getting a update/remake.

 

[gigastar]

I think the only TV show i like thats old enough to be worth rebooting was Stargate SG1.

 

[Ashhearth]

Reboot was a pretty interesting show. The villains were creepy as hell, though I don't really remember much about the actual plot or anything...

Oh, that's not what we're talking about?

I don't know, the only nostalgia I really have for shows I grew up with is Digimon and Pokemon, and considering I fell out of interest with both of them after their second or third seasons, I don't feel like a reboot would be particularly interesting -- Especially considering that objectively speaking, the writing and pacing and everything are probably much better in the later episodes than the earlier ones that I prefer.

I didn't have cable or anything.

The few other shows, like Rugrats or all those "One Saturday Morning" shows, I can't help but feel something might get lost in the translation of bringing it up to "today's standard". Or the various Star Trek series', which are still (mostly) enjoyable to watch even today. But I don't watch much television to begin with, so I'm likely not the best person to ask.

EDIT: Thinking about it, I don't feel like they should do any particular reboot (unless it's of that godawful Enterprise BS), but I'd like to see more new Star Trek with the same themes and designs as TOS, TNG, or DS9.

Its ok all you have to know is that Reboot is about AI's in a computer are fighting for their lives against a user that makes them play games

OT: Not really sure if there is anything I used to watch that I want rebooted but maybe new shows using older concepts? Samurai Jack was a huge thing I loved as a kid but it was the story I think that did it for me. Another option I guess would be Zoids but I might be an odd man out there.

 

[Mordekaien]

Reboot was a pretty interesting show. The villains were creepy as hell, though I don't really remember much about the actual plot or anything...

Oh, that's not what we're talking about?

This long until someone mentioned it?
Here take these cookies

It was a good show, as far as I remember, although there was some weird shit going on right at the end.

OT,
I would be all for rebooting old ninja turtles.

 

[saintdane05]

We need to reboot TUGS. Yeah, we have <link=http://www.sodor-island.net/sifproductions/tugsaudioproductions.html> The TUGS audio productions and the CGI fan film, but we need something official, with models and everything. With 3d printing tech, wouldn't it now be possible to recreate the original models? After all, 18 of them are in the hands of the official fan club now.

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Man that was a great show...

 

[Souplex]

I was hoping this thread would be about the show "Reboot."
Now I'm sad.

 

[saintdane05]

We need to reboot TUGS. Yeah, we have <link=http://www.sodor-island.net/sifproductions/tugsaudioproductions.html> The TUGS audio productions and the CGI fan film, but we need something official, with models and everything. With 3d printing tech, wouldn't it now be possible to recreate the original models? After all, 18 of them are in the hands of the official fan club now.

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Man that was a great show...

and thus THUGS was born...because it needed to be "edgy" to be able to compete with other kids shows nowadays.

THUGS was already edgy and dark and shit. Have you seen Munitions? Where everything explodes?
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But seriously, listen to the audio productions. Especially Mutiny.

 

[2fish]

Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. Maybe stir in some grit and moral choices to keep the kids happy. Maybe call it Mister Rogers' Neighborhood After Dark.

 

[unindexedsearchengine]

I think the only TV show i like thats old enough to be worth rebooting was Stargate SG1.

That simply needs to continue. SG-1 and Atlantis were both cut off early. The Ori were supposed to have more than 2 seasons and one movie, and atlantis was shot in the foot due to budget issues, thus the hasty ending. Neither need a reboot, both need a continuation.

OT: I'd love a new Star Trek series, with a decent cast.
Also, Babylon 5. I felt that they had something going with the "Lost Tales" but after the first one it just went all hush-hush

 

[Shodan1980]

I come from the net, through systems, peoples and cities, to this place...Mainframe...

Reboot would be a fantastic show to reboot, I've got the entire thing on my computer and the first season isn't great but from about halfway through the second season they started a big arc story that's brilliant, and the movie they did to tie up all the loose ends is amazing. Hunt them down, it still stands up well for a kids show. Redone with modern computer animation? Shut up and earn my money. Actually, reboot it as a game. RPG? Each section based in an incoming game from a user? Yes please!

 

[Sonic Doctor]

I think the only TV show i like thats old enough to be worth rebooting was Stargate SG1.

In the terms of a new series with new characters with a new story, along the same timeline as SG-1 and Atlantis, and with the exact same core style of the SG-1 and Atlantis, then yes, I'd love a reboot.

Universe would have been successful, if the film style was like the other two instead of copying heavily from the grainy, close-up filled, and shaky Battlestar Galactica. It also would have succeeded if it hadn't tried to be an angst-ridden space soap-opera. Instead of focusing on the Stargate lore, aliens, and planets like the other shows did, anytime there was stuff about aliens, planets, or lore type stuff, it got about 10 minutes, 15 if they were generous and then the rest was, "oh let's focus on the relationships", the unneeded love triangle, unneeded air-force woman carrying her superior's child, and also the out of nowhere and unneeded long-distance lesbian romance that was really creepy seeing as the woman on the ship was using another woman's body to report on the ship to the higher ups on Earth, but then would go and visit her lover(with implied love-making), one wonders if the woman she was using consented to her body being used in such a way.

Really the only reason I watched it was just to see what there was of the alien, planet, and gate-lore, so basically I did something else while it was on and when something related to what I liked came on, then I watched, but of course ended up into looking up for a minute and a half, because that was about how long proper Stargate-type show snippets were before they cut away to more relationship bull-crap. Of course the other Stargates had relationship stuff, but it was properly relegated to side stories that got just 10 minutes of air time or occasionally half an episode, and only made up about 5% of each season.

Universe was an example on how to fail when making a Stargate series.

You know, I was quite intrigued by some of the actual Stargate stuff that luckily didn't hit the cutting room floor for Universe, I propose(I know it has been only a few years, but that doesn't matter) that we get a reboot/really a proper remake of Stargate Universe, same story, same characters(will most likely, have to have new actors, though I don't care because I wasn't attached to them), if not remove, cut the relationship stuff by 90%, cut the whole lesbian thing, because the way it was done, it was obvious they were doing it just to be edgy, and finally boost the alien, planet, and Stargate lore, that it first used, by 90%.

Right there, you have a winner for next best Stargate series.

 

[saintdane05]

I think the only TV show i like thats old enough to be worth rebooting was Stargate SG1.

That simply needs to continue. SG-1 and Atlantis were both cut off early. The Ori were supposed to have more than 2 seasons and one movie, and atlantis was shot in the foot due to budget issues, thus the hasty ending. Neither need a reboot, both need a continuation.

OT: I'd love a new Star Trek series, with a decent cast.
Also, Babylon 5. I felt that they had something going with the "Lost Tales" but after the first one it just went all hush-hush

They did have them. Quite a few, actually. Universe, The Ark of Truth & Continuum, Infinity, not to mention the comics and audiobooks...

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Oh yeah! I remember Reboot! Megabyte had such an awesome voice (RIP Tony Jay) and I loved the Daemon arc. I have mad nostalgia for that...

Oh...

Sorry, this isn't about that is it? D: