I do love how this has basically devolved into everyone gushing over Berserk : DFappy said:I actually like the lighter shift in tone (I really like Schierke, who no doubt contributes to that), but like you pointed out, the random hyper-grotesque shit that gets thrown in at this stage is... very jarring. Really wasn't sure why the pregnant women/demon sludge thing even happened outside of the narrative reminding us "this story is dark". And the troll thing just was there to remind you that if you have vagina in this setting it will get raped eventually, I guess >.> (one of the main things that irks me about the series as a whole, really)Casual Shinji said:Considering the state of the world, I don't think there's more places they can really go with the story.Fappy said:Yeah, I am in complete agreement there. I am really curious what direction the story will be taking soon. My gut tells me that, aside from filler, we're getting pretty close to the end? Honestly it could go on much longer, but it feels like something big is going to happen soon.
Do you think the series will have a second tragedy or do you think it will come with the end of the story? I honestly don't think I could take much more abuse in regards to Guts and Casca T^T
As for how it's going to end... I don't know. If you've heard me rave about Berserk you'll likely also be aware of how I'm not the biggest fan of everything that came after volume 22. Things have crept into the story that really kind of annoy me. But more than that I feel like the series set itself up to such unfathomable heights that it's impossible to give it a worthy ending. Shit just got way too epic.
What ending we will get I think will be of a somewhat happy variety, since the manga itself has gotten way more lighthearted... despite all the troll rape and pregnant women being dumped into demon sludge for a less than savory purpose.
I am not entirely convinced it will be a 100% happy ending. They've built up the berserker armor so much that I will be honestly surprised if Guts doesn't either accidentally kill or mortally wound one of his friends. I think some kind of bittersweet ending would fit the best. An ending where the good guys find peace and poetic justice in achieved... and by that I mean Griffith gets skull-fucked by the rape Horse and/or Baphomet in hell for the rest of eternity
One of these things is not like the other. If you read the OP he/she asked for mature sophisticated stories. I haven't read Death Note, but assume it's good, and Berserk is just as brilliant as everyone says it is. But Gantz? It's one of the stupidest, schlockiest, most juvenile things I've ever read and as time passes it just becomes worse and worse in my eyes.Starbird said:Berserk is fantastic.
Gantz is really, really, really, really good - for the first volume. It is still fairly good after that but goes off the deep end plot wise.
It's a bit overplayed, but Death Note is a cultural phenomenon for a reason. Although I preferred the anime to be honest.
Not only the writing is juvenile at best... The pacing of the entire thing is wrong. Either they spend way too much time on the games and the action becames meanless, arguably intruducing throw away characters to "raise the stakes" for the reader don't realize how boring everything has become or they spend way too much time with "whatshisface" in his personal life which is also boring. There's nothing to break one another, except one another and becames steagnent quickly.Fappy said:I've read the first few volumes of Gantz and hated it. The art was good, but I found the story way too juvenile for my taste >.>Starbird said:Yeah that's Berserk's thing. It gets dark...then gradually lightens up and then sucker punches you with something pitch black and horrible. Very curious to see where the story is going now.I actually like the lighter shift in tone (I really like Schierke, who no doubt contributes to that), but like you pointed out, the random hyper-grotesque shit that gets thrown in at this stage is... very jarring. Really wasn't sure why the pregnant women/demon sludge thing even happened outside of the narrative reminding us "this story is dark". And the troll thing just was there to remind you that if you have vagina in this setting it will get raped eventually, I guess >.> (one of the main things that irks me about the series as a whole, really)
I am not entirely convinced it will be a 100% happy ending. They've built up the berserker armor so much that I will be honestly surprised if Guts doesn't either accidentally kill or mortally wound one of his friends. I think some kind of bittersweet ending would fit the best. An ending where the good guys find peace and poetic justice in achieved... and by that I mean Griffith gets skull-fucked by the rape Horse and/or Baphomet in hell for the rest of eternity
If you like Berserk I cannot recommend Gantz strongly enough. *Not* for the faint of heart though.
Keep it that way, you're not missing out on anything. I'll just spoil this because fuck you: the last arc of the manga is a war with aliens that goes on for like 100 chapters and it's a total goddamn mess. There are a couple of significant character deaths, but they cannot redeem the endless fighting, pointless gore, meaningless meandering with the aliens and the ending that might just be the new king of anticlimactiland. The main characters beat up some random mook, fall out of a spaceship, float in the sea for a whole 2-page spread, was up on the shore and yay happy ending for everyone!Diablo2000 said:I don't plan on finishing it...
... This actually kinda surprinsing. I had figure out was going to end with everyone dying and Earth being destroyed in a attempt to be "edgy". Wasn't expecting a happy ending.bartholen said:Keep it that way, you're not missing out on anything. I'll just spoil this because fuck you: the last arc of the manga is a war with aliens that goes on for like 100 chapters and it's a total goddamn mess. There are a couple of significant character deaths, but they cannot redeem the endless fighting, pointless gore, meaningless meandering with the aliens and the ending that might just be the new king of anticlimactiland. The main characters beat up some random mook, fall out of a spaceship, float in the sea for a whole 2-page spread, was up on the shore and yay happy ending for everyone!Diablo2000 said:I don't plan on finishing it...
What's Vgagbond about?DarkhoIlow said:Vinland Saga
Vagabond
Dead Tube (new)
Hideout (short and complete)
Tokyo Ghoul + Tokyo Ghoul RE
One Punch Man
Terra Formars
Ajin
Manhwa:
The Breaker
Tower of God
This is all just speculating that Berserk will one day end, I've got my money on Miura dying before finishing the story, or at least making the ending really half-assed. 20 pages per 4-6 months is really slow, and consider how far off from the ending it is, and it started in the late 80's. The god damn main character has not been on paper for over a year.Fox12 said:I do love how this has basically devolved into everyone gushing over Berserk : DFappy said:I actually like the lighter shift in tone (I really like Schierke, who no doubt contributes to that), but like you pointed out, the random hyper-grotesque shit that gets thrown in at this stage is... very jarring. Really wasn't sure why the pregnant women/demon sludge thing even happened outside of the narrative reminding us "this story is dark". And the troll thing just was there to remind you that if you have vagina in this setting it will get raped eventually, I guess >.> (one of the main things that irks me about the series as a whole, really)Casual Shinji said:Considering the state of the world, I don't think there's more places they can really go with the story.Fappy said:Yeah, I am in complete agreement there. I am really curious what direction the story will be taking soon. My gut tells me that, aside from filler, we're getting pretty close to the end? Honestly it could go on much longer, but it feels like something big is going to happen soon.
Do you think the series will have a second tragedy or do you think it will come with the end of the story? I honestly don't think I could take much more abuse in regards to Guts and Casca T^T
As for how it's going to end... I don't know. If you've heard me rave about Berserk you'll likely also be aware of how I'm not the biggest fan of everything that came after volume 22. Things have crept into the story that really kind of annoy me. But more than that I feel like the series set itself up to such unfathomable heights that it's impossible to give it a worthy ending. Shit just got way too epic.
What ending we will get I think will be of a somewhat happy variety, since the manga itself has gotten way more lighthearted... despite all the troll rape and pregnant women being dumped into demon sludge for a less than savory purpose.
I am not entirely convinced it will be a 100% happy ending. They've built up the berserker armor so much that I will be honestly surprised if Guts doesn't either accidentally kill or mortally wound one of his friends. I think some kind of bittersweet ending would fit the best. An ending where the good guys find peace and poetic justice in achieved... and by that I mean Griffith gets skull-fucked by the rape Horse and/or Baphomet in hell for the rest of eternity
I expect the ending to be semi tragic. Even if guts survives, his body is basically destroyed at this point. Given the stories philosophical nature, I think Miura could still deliver a powerhouse ending if he wanted. It's true that his edges have been sanded off, but the man can still write like nobodies business. As for the tone, it's meandered somewhat over the years, but I think schierke saves it almost on her own.
Also, thanks to everyone for the reccomendations so far.
Kyber said:If it's left unfinished, then it will be because Miura has abandoned it. It sounds like he may be depressed, or at least completely burned out. Now that he's finished with Gigantomakhia, he may pick up the pace again. He could be done in a few years, if he was passionate. Unfortunately, that is all speculation, and even if he does finish, it probably won't be quick. He's still a young man in his late forties or early fifties, after all. Sadly, it's clear that he's not the same Miura who started Berserk. Somethings changed. If his ending was already planned, then I think it will be okay, but otherwise you're right, he may be in trouble. I don't want to see this series left undone.Fox12 said:snip
This is all rather sad, as he penned one of the finest epics I have ever read (and I am extremely well read).
Vagabond - It kinda has everything: action, suspense, excitment, drama and even a little romance - everything that is packed into a great story. (Action, Adventure, Drama, Historical, Samurai, Seinen if you want more specific tags).ArcaneGamer said:What's Vgagbond about?DarkhoIlow said:Vinland Saga
Vagabond
Dead Tube (new)
Hideout (short and complete)
Tokyo Ghoul + Tokyo Ghoul RE
One Punch Man
Terra Formars
Ajin
Manhwa:
The Breaker
Tower of God
DeadTube: I'm tempted to make a YouTube joke here, but I won't.
Tokyo Ghoul: I've heard of this from a friend of mine, but I don't really know what it's about.
Tower OF God: A religious themed comic, eh? What's it about?
Ever heard of a series called Zero Joker?